NH Voter Offers Sound Opinion About Hype Surrounding Obama

[JABBS]

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Democrats would do well to skip the hype, and consider the advice of New Hampshire resident Robert Padian, who told the New York Times: "I’ve looked through his book, and he barely touches issues. I think he’s a serious candidate, but I don’t think he has great potential. No track record, and there are too many guys ahead of him in line.”

When all is said and done, Obama may be the best candidate for the Democratic National Convention. But hype alone is not what the Democrats should rally behind.

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1. "Watch him on Meet the Press and it's a bunch of mush"

"He's a nice person, I'm sure. But thus far, politically, he hasn't articulated any real tangible ideas as to how to change the country. It's a lot of "hopes and dreams," but not much substance behind it.

It's the sort of thing that we all criticized GWB for back in 2000."

m-Hmm.

[JABBS]

3. u agree with that sentiment?

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4. So far, yes.

I don't understand the "Obama magic". I watched his speech at the 2004 DNC and all I saw was a skillful teleprompter reading.

He and Hillary are two flavors of mush. We need bold, aggressive leadership a la Russ Feingold, and there has been none forthcoming.

[hippiechick]

2. I watched the NH speech on Cspan ...

... and it's the same tried and true Dem base issues that every pol drags out every election ...
no specifics, no substance.

And will someone PLEASE tell our candidates to read Howard Zinn? This country wasn't founded by "13 rag tag colonies wanting to overthrow a tyrant and try something new" ... it was founded by a bunch of rich white men who owned other human beings!! Rich white men who didn't want to pay taxes to the English. Thus it is, as it ever was. Women and blacks are STILL not equal. So shush with all that mythological noise and bring us some TRUTH.

PLEASE ?!?!

[pansypoo53219]

american sheople

can't handle the truth.

they like mush.

[pansypoo53219]

6. american sheople

can't handle the truth.

they like mush.

[goclark]

5. He did not write the book to define "political issues"

He wrote the book to define his life up to that point.

Now if he wrote a book today ~ that would be a different story.

He could then give it the title ~ " Here Are My Political Views On The Issues Facing Our Country In 2007."

I've also read that some believe that Obama needs to "stand in line" to be President.

That is how we got GW Bush, his father put him in the front of the line and guess what --- he "won."

The "line" that candidates need to respond to should be the "line" of voters at the polls.
That is the only line that I know of as a requirement.

[JABBS]

7. he certainly touches on several political issues

in both of his books.

The main point is that Obama has to earn votes. If he gets the nomination on a wave of hype, he'll be crushed in the general election.

[goclark]

8. And McCain and Rudy will be held to a different standard ?

Their entire political life has been based on hype.

If we go with the hype theory, I just heard a "guest" on the so called MSM say that Gore's book is a lot of hype, designed to have him run for President.

Now, I love GORE, absolutely love GORE and I was offended by the remark.Right now, Gore is a "Rock Star" with his film and his public appearances and Obama is a "Rock Star" with his book and his public appearances.

That may all change tomorrow if the RW keeps on putting negatives that Democrats buy into in the way. They keep building them up so that even Democrats will start picking away at them. This is a tried and true Rove tactic that has worked for them in the passed.

I am thrilled for Gore and Obama as I believe Democrats should be proud of their own and nurture them.


Of course Obama touched on several political issues in his book.
The details of those issues have certainly changed since the book was written. His vision on issues has certainly changed since it was written.

One thing is for sure, he is brilliant and intelligence should be a real factor in this election.

His speeches now are certainly not designed to outline his political views in depth to the American public, that would be left for the run up to the election IMO.

I believe in the Democratic Process. If Obama or any other candidate can get passed the primaries, he/she will have the support of the Democrats and many others.

I am not saying that he must win, I am saying that he has a right to participate in the process without holding him to a higher standard than anyone else.
PEACE

[JABBS]

9. not the same point

A person can have hype, and have a long resume with which to be judged by. Obama has the hype, but lacks the lengthy resume.

I'm not suggesting there's a line that Obama has to wait behind. I'm saying he needs to make clear his views on issues, so that people are voting on what he believes in, not the fact that he's popular. There's someone in my office who said she'd vote for Obama because he's cute. She doesn't know much about what he stands for, though.

[goclark]

10. When he announces then he can make his views on issues known

Currently he is not running for President.

By the way, I voted for JFK because he was "cute" and I liked his new, fresh vision for America.
I really didn't care about his resume, I wanted to know what his vision would be.

IMO,GW had a legacy and a "resume" full of lies.
He forgot to list AWOL.

PEACE

[JABBS]

11. that's fine

I never said Obama would never be a legit candidate for president. My point was merely that hype alone is not enough.

[Taverner]

12. Hmmmmm I see history repeating itself

Gore, lost the election due to suspicious circumstances, has a comeback where he listens less to advisors and more to his gut (Nixon did this)

A shining star of the party starts to rise, not ready for prime time, ends up making a name for himself delivering the keynote at the convention, ends up running in the next election to win by a landslide (Obama as Ronald Wilson Reagan)