whosinpower
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:20 PM
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President Bush is dragging his heels on a new direction for Iraq......... Saudi Ambassador abruptly quits and leaves the country...... Public opinion on the Iraq war and President Bush has fallen to an all time low...... Christmas is just around the corner.........
What would President Bush need to lift his poll numbers, regain credibility to the masses regarding the Iraq war and the war on terror? What would he need to gain the backing of Americans long dissillusioned over his leadership, and forgive him of all the lies that led up to the war in the first place???? What historic event could possibly wipe from your mind the horrific leadership Bush has perpetrated upon the nation and gain the backing to keep the Iraq war going? What would definitavely shut up the naysayers and dissenters???? You know what I am talking about.....and it isn't resignation either.
Stay safe this upcoming holiday season.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:22 PM
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:29 PM
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12. It won't work again n/t |
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:55 PM
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too many people wont buy the official story from the get go this time
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:22 PM
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2. I wonder how many other Saudis are leaving the U.S. |
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They got bad press about letting OBL's family leave the country on 9/13...Maybe this time, they're all going to get out BEFORE whatever is planned actually happens.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:24 PM
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3. You're not the first thread to don this tinfoil ... |
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... it seems to be contagious around here this week.
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whosinpower
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:25 PM
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Sorry bout that. It just now occured to me....after Bush declared that there probably will not be any major announcement before christmas......
Apologies.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:28 PM
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9. No, no apologies ... it's really interesting that so many are thinking |
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... along the same lines.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:27 PM
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7. I may be in the minority here, but I think it would backfire on him bigtime. |
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The only thing it would do would be to create enough of a diversion that he would install martial law as his gift to the American people this year. Hmmmm, that would give him the ability to deal with the Dem congress also.
I better go get another roll of tin foil..... along with my rolls of duct tape, plastic sheeting, and cans of tuna.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:37 PM
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15. ... the gift that keeps on giving ... |
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... that may be their only motive. :shrug:
Boo! Be afraid!
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:39 PM
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16. you'd better go easy on the tuna |
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:41 PM
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18. Actually was looking at some of the dehyd. from Cabella's. n/t |
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:24 PM
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4. the little sociopathic turd |
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will be killing some folks this year for Christmas
cheney to saudi arabia saudi link to terrorists flees the jurisdiction
i'm staying out of airplanes and tall buildings and crowded public places
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:29 PM
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11. This thought is not far fetched |
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I have thought about this for some time now. Bush needs a boost, what better way to get that boost than to arrange a convenient terrorist attack.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:27 PM
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6. I live too close to D.C. |
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Guess I'll just lean over and . . . .
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:27 PM
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If another terrorist attack happens on American soil, that will be the end of the line for Bush. We've been told we're safer, yet reports say we are in more danger because of the war in Iraq.
The GOP has told us they're keeping us safe. If they fail to do so, they have NOTHING. That empty promise, even though we know it's 150% PURE BULL$HIT is all the Kool-Aid drinkers have now.
Rather than rally round Bush, I think most of America would would demand a change of leadership: IMMEDIATELY!
Twice under the same pResident? He would be gone.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:35 PM
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A horrific terror attack would first trigger sadness, mourning and I think America would unite together regardless of who the president was. And then, it would coalesce into anger.....and that is when Bush will use that anger to promote his Iraq war agenda. (the new improved one that sends more troops to Iraq)
See--even if Bush is forced to step down....there are those in power who do not want it to end. A really bad terror attack on US soil would do it.
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:36 PM
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25. People who are afraid react viscerally, not logically |
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Another terrorist attack on the level of 9/11 would, I think, throw a sizeable portion of the general public into panic, and they would follow, trust, and obey whoever grabs the microphone first. If the boooooshies have planned or are planning anything of this nature, you'd better believe they will have control of the communication lines.
Think back to 9/11 and remember some of the people who were ready, in those first moments of panic, to line up right behind the same guy whose approval numbers were about where they are now.
Remember, too, that not all those who are contributing to the 68% disapproval rating right now are on "our" side. I've listened to those rightwingers who are pissed at booosh now because he hasn't done enough to take down Iraq. They're pissed that "our troops" keep dying for no good reason, but they would not complain if there were more of them over there, if there were routine bombing runs, if there were "mini-nukes" dropped on Hanoi, er, Baghdad. These are the people who want victory at any cost to the U.S. -- and they do not even consider the costs paid by the Iraqis as part of the equation.
GWB is in a corner and like a frightened dog he is going to lash out. If his handler (Cheney) can keep him under control, they may work out something that doesn't involve a major terrorist attack on this country. But if a non-catastrophic response doesn't turn things around within 90 days, and/or if the Dems in congress start getting too uppity, I don't think anyone who's paying attention will be surprised if "something" happens.
Tansy Gold, :tinfoilhat: fastened securely
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Tue Dec-12-06 08:19 PM
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33. I think if something happened again, we wouldn't have much |
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of a choice. I suspect the Administration would declare Martial Law immediately and haul off all the dissenters to "camps".
Never underestimate the the desperation of the insane and power mad.
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:28 PM
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10. argh G*d damn it! That wet blanket looks like CRAP on my xmas tree! |
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Yeah I know we've all thought that -- but did you have to say it out LOUD?
Damn!
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:33 PM
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13. Hmmm... I wish I were less cynical; maybe that would make less sense. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 02:36 PM by Shipwack
Even if something did happen I have a feeling that it would do nothing but make his "30%" base scream louder. No sane person is going to see that as an excuse to give his Administration -more- power.
Second, (adjusts newly made tinfoil hat), not having anyone's support would bother this Administration in the slightest. They would have their plans already made and be implementing them while the rest of the nation was in surprised shock.
If something were to happen, I'd bet on it being DC, after the Bush Family Evil Empire had retired to the Crawford pig farm for the holidays. That way Junior could use it as an excuse to not have a Democratic Congress convene on time.
For everyone thinking I'm crazy paranoid, I hope you're right. :(
::edited to add:: Wow, in the time it took me to type that, I saw several other had already posted something similar. Dammit. I -want- to be crazy/foolish... not have people agree with me!
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:15 PM
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23. I think the West Coast is more likely--and god knows this admin. is |
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psycho enough to do it. After all, distraction is one of their favorite tools. Since they don't really care about this country or 99% of the people in it, they might just go postal to delay the inevitable investigations. Plus, they could hand off the rebuilding of the target to Halliburton, who, as we know, are so terribly in need.
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Tue Dec-12-06 08:29 PM
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34. You mean the left coast? |
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I'd bet money he'd be all for spreading the "terror" to this coast to "teach us a lesson in humility."
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:39 PM
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17. Hold it, the sauidi ambassador left |
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wow!
he was here for only 15 mothhs and was in charge of the UBL account at one point.
And bush is saying we need more troops....
No announcement before Christmas
Well at least I don't live at an obvious target.
Damn these bushies are incredible, aren't they?
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Tue Dec-12-06 02:42 PM
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19. Don't forget to add Congress being keen on investigations, |
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starting with the buildup to the Iraq war, Anthrax investigation, and more.
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:14 PM
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22. And you also forget the last point |
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Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 03:15 PM by nadinbrzezinski
Bush managed to push through this congress a law that wold allow him to APPOINT congresscritters if they get killed, well not him, the governors.
Not that I am saying the new Democratic Congress is in any danger, mind you.
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:10 PM
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21. Saucers land on the White House lawn? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:15 PM
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24. How about this for a twist... |
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The legacy, the family name and the dynasty need a boost...perhaps even more so than one thankless, never-as-good-as-the-other-kid, chronic-failure-who-never-listens deserves. So....
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Could the old man be cooking something up with his associates who remain "in the business" in order to create a "situation" - sacrificing a lamb, so to speak - that could mitigate the ill-will associated with an individual, generate sympathy for the family name, and eliminate a roadblock to putting his study group's "plan" in play? All the while, paving the path for the ascension of the next prince, and appeasing the royal family whose diplomat just skipped town?
Blood is thicker than water...oil is thicker than both...and legacy and dynasty trumps all. Think of some of the historical dynastic family figures of the past who did dastardly deeds against each other. It's kind of like a "family (ethical) value" to preserve the "family (financial) value" amongst a select few families over the course of past centuries.
just sayin'...
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Of course, I have nothing whatsoever to back this up, nor do I in any context whatsoever wish anything untoward to happen to any individual expressed or implied. Any resemblance to real events, persons or characters is purely coincidental. :)
Just some cynical fictionalizing and five minutes of idle time.
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:46 PM
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26. I'm not usually one for "tinfoil" but the fact that the Saudi |
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ambassador left DC so quickly and quietly does have me slightly bothered.
I definitely think that "something's up", but what it could be, I haven't a clue..
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:56 PM
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27. Dirty bomb in Baghdad on Christmas? A nuke blowing up hundreds of GIs? |
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Why would the terra attack have to be here? I wonder if the Saudis are going to work with BFEE to launch a major strike in Baghdad (of course our mutual cooperation will never be public knowledge, there will be spinmeisters out in force to redirect the conversation about Cheney's visit, BFEE's ties etc.) Something that will shock Americans and re-ignite Iraq War passion, feed the WMD schtick, kill off a bunch of soldiers which will catapult the military into a frenzy demanding that more troops be sent (conveniently matching GW Bu$h's own little fantasy). Perhaps it will even be spun as a nuke via Iran....
The Rethugs have too much to lose with an attack in the US - their whole little political world is framed by "we're keeping you safe from terra here on the homefront!" They can't afford to lose that talking point....
My bet is the attack is in Baghdad, orchestrated by the Saudis and BFEE, blamed on Iran.
Tinfoil hat tightly wound on! :tinfoilhat:
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:58 PM
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28. With an "event", he could suspend the swearing in of the new congress... |
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as well as our civil rights via The Patriot Act. I've been thinking of and dreading this possibility. :tinfoilhat:
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:04 PM
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29. It could work, especially if the media went into a frenzy and |
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somehow the food supply or other staple is affected. Remember, some people keep praying despite the outcome.
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:49 PM
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If it did happen it would still have an impact of creating more fear , I have no doubt about this .
Now that these freaks are in a corner and really they have more to loose if they don;t try again since they have put in all their effort to keep control .
I just don't trust any of them and feel just about anything is possible as long as they still have the power to do pretty much what they want .
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Tue Dec-12-06 07:10 PM
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32. I'm thinking Roger Daltry sang it best: "Won't get fooled again!" |
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