For you, the true indicator of the Fall of Western Civilization

[Montauk6]

[silverojo]

1. Anal bleaching?!?

That's definitely rock-bottom. I mean, you EXPECT freeptards to create the demand for a Bush library (filled with copies of "My Pet Goat"). But who the expects anyone to bleach their taint? WTH???

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. What's the one where the ladies get their labia remodeled.

That one.

[rzemanfl]

19. What? Whose **** do they want theirs to look like? Does the

plastic surgeon use Hustler magazines to show the various options?

[Poll_Blind]

3. "Bleach" and "Anus" should never be that close to each other. In...

...sentences or in real life.

PB

[Redstone]

4. "Anal bleaching?" Please, PLEASE tell me you're joking. I'm BEGGING you.

Redstone

[Poll_Blind]

8. I just Googled it. Apparently there is no part of the body that can't be white...

...enough. I'm hoping eye-bleaching catches on with the same crowd.

PB

[Redstone]

10. You Googled it? You're a braver man than I, Gunga Din. I'd be afraid that my

computer would get the cooties. If not worse.

Redstone

[Poll_Blind]

11. Once I realized it wasn't something the Chinese did to dissidents...

...I got brave. :-)

PB

[Redstone]

13. That's funny.

Redstone

[Lydia Leftcoast]

5. "All of the above"

:-(

[Selatius]

6. The day the US government defaults on its debt payments.

That's the final demarcation point between the "Old World" and the "New World" that's going to be a lot harsher than what Americans are used to enduring or are willing to endure.

[Poll_Blind]

7. Now THAT is a damn good, equally-scary indicator. n/t

PB

[StatGirl]

9. "Other": SUVs with "Support The Troops" stickers on them (NT)

[Redstone]

12. People allowing their children to address non-family adults by their first name.

We do not let our kids do that.

Redstone

[kineneb]

14. Western (European) Civ. doing OK, but US Civ. -no

couldn't vote on poll due to no proper reply...
Western Civ. is European Civ.
I'm not sure the US has ever really had "civilization"...
still working on getting out of Dark Ages here, and fundie types are no help...

Hand me that axe, Olaf...

(watch out for barbarians)

[Hardrada]

21. Here ya go, you betcha but the name's Lars.

[mdmc]

15. Hummer

bummer.

[pansypoo53219]

16. video games

NASCAR and stipper culturization of women.

[Dorian Gray]

17. Anal Bleaching!

Does it get any more pitiful?

[rzemanfl]

18. It was when the Concorde stopped flying. For the first time in

history the minimum amount of time it took to travel between the U.S. and Europe got longer.

[villager]

20. Describe to me again the difference between "anal bleaching" and

...the George Walker Bush Presidential Library?

[sweetheart]

22. State murders and the prison population

If we assign all murders in iraq to the US responsiblity, fairly for starting that unrest,
and then look at the stateside prison population and all those on parole. The striking increase
shows that its come to concentration camps.

The extreme rise of militarism to start with, the overthrow of the appearance of elected meritocracy,
with bully kings and emperorors, now brings in the age of american caesars, with unlimited king powers
as newly created by unitary idiots.

Then the marked decline was 12 dec. 2000, the start of the prolonged arms build up that precipates WW3.

Not much different than moscow assassinating with black hands in sarjevo, now its polonium in london,
blair rails against iran for bullshit remarks by an ass, bringing the UK to his level, and tensions
are at a pre-ww1 level, and anyone who does not realize that this could break out in to heavy irreversable
stuff is deluded by the arms buildups worldwide since bush started his and broke off all cooperation,
going back to a competing empires frame on internationalism, one that is bound to collide with something.

What was the turning point? Was there one? Wasn't it Ghandi who said when asked about western
civilization, that it might be a good idea? He might be right, as no nation on earth has really
achieved womens equality, but the best signs are still there in non-american western nations.

[Montauk6]

23. Sweetheart, you just jarred my memory of something I should've added...

And, yes, kinenab, I might've been overly inclusive with the whole Western vs US.

A definite indicator: not simply the gross photos of Abu Ghreib but the GRINNING THUMBS-UP poses from the perpetrators!