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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:53 AM
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Bush Family Motto = Bush Family Secret?
According to a fellow I know, an extremely smart guy who's more of a political junkie than even I am, the Bush family motto translates from the Latin into something close to "I don't know from Uncle."

He's not kidding, and he's not the type to make shit up. Can this be true? What does it mean? If this isn't their motto, what is, and why isn't it more well known?

"I don't know from Uncle" certainly fits the bill, though it's hard to see earlier generations enthusiastically adopting this as their byword.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:14 AM
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1. There must be a better translation available--I have a problem with
the use of the word "from" in that context. I think (and I could certainly be wrong!) that using the expression "I don't know from," or "they don't know from" is a translation of a Yiddish expression. How would this tie in with a Latin motto?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:19 AM
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2. What is the motto in Latin? n/t
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:20 AM
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4. I think it's something like "Oderint, dum metuant."
I'm not totally sure, though.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:24 AM
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5. A Google search turned up "Let them hate so long as they fear"
http://www.sacklunch.net/Latin/O/oderintdummetuant.html

A favorite saying of Caligula. How apropriate. :rofl:
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:26 AM
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7. That's kind of unexpected,
but amazingly appropriate!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:26 AM
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6. Odiferous Dumb Mutant?
Sounds about right.

-Hoot
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:31 AM
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8. Sorry - just read my friend's email a little more closely
He said that the Caligula motto SHOULD be their family motto, but the actual one is "Ego Ignotus Immunda."

I googled this, but the results were all Greek to me. Well, Latin, but you know what I mean. Perhaps you know of a good online translator?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:42 AM
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9. Ego Ignotus Immunda = I (am) ignorant and unclean
Ego = first person singular pronoun ("I")
Ignotus = ignorance
Immunda = unclean (thing)

There is an implied "sum" at the end. Sum is the first person singular form of estre, "to be."

The correct translation is probably "I am ignorant of what is unclean," but I think mine is better. :hi:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:47 AM
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10. What I don't know is dirty?
Anything I don't know is garbage anyway.?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:19 AM
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3. Sounds like a secret society motto.
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 11:20 AM by BuyingThyme
Like the Know Nothings:

The origin of the "Know Nothing" term was in the semi-secret organization of the party. When a member was asked about its activities, he was supposed to reply "I know nothing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know-Nothings
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:56 AM
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11. Sounds like the Sgt. Shultz family to me, then.
Are there monkeys on their coat of arms? You know, the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" monkeys? It would certainly fit the family of chimpy.
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