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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:25 PM
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Things seem to be going sour between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 02:26 PM by AndyA
I think the writing is on the wall:

1. Cheney ordered to rush to Saudi Arabia to meet with them last month. And he dropped everything to do it.

2. Saudi's U.S. Ambassador leaves abruptly after only 15 months.

3. Saudi King said to have read Bush the riot act over Iraq.

I don't think they're too happy with us right now, and since they control the majority of the oil flow into the U.S., that should have all of us very concerned.

This is not a good time to have an idiot as pResident.

Add link to story: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/13/saudi.sunnis/index.html
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:28 PM
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1. Not quite a majority of the oil but alot
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:34 PM
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7. Their control is their influence over the world price of oil
we buy oil from other countries, but the price we pay is largely influenced by Saudi Arabia's pivotal role in OPEC. If they are unhappy in Riyadh, the oil we buy from Nigeria, Canada, Mexico and Venezuela will cost more. (this is why the ANWAR drilling fixation the Repukes have is so stupid. Unless we NATIONALIZED that production, which is Communism by Gum!, we will pay essentially the same for it as for oil from other countries. It doesn't help that ANWAR oil is very hard to get out of the ground and refine.)
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:35 PM
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8. Well, let's just say that if the Saudis wanted to cripple the U.S.,
they could do it in short order.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:28 PM
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2. It's going bad with PNAC and Saudi Arabia - Cheney is PNAC.
It's also going bad between PNAC and the BAKER BUSH CARLYLE contingents.

Perhaps even the barons are at war with each other.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:28 PM
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3. From what I understand
Saudis said they will support the Sunnis financially if America pulls out of Iraq. They have our balls.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:30 PM
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4. I heard it was that they would support them more than just financially...
We're in some very deep shit.
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majorjohn Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:31 PM
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5. Topple the Saudi Regime!
:sarcasm:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:32 PM
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6. Wow you'd think we had sent 15 or 20 guys over there to ...
high-jack some airliners and crash them into some skyscrapers.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:39 PM
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11. !
Good point...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:37 PM
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9. things have gone sour between Americans and the Saudi representatives
in the US, l'il georgie bush and his unka dick
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:38 PM
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10. We are having problems with the Saudis because of their influence over Bush
They own him. Now, they are hollering frog, and they want their boy to start hopping. And hop he will. You can't bet that Bush will not pull out of Iraq. Period. He'd rather sink the GOP ship in 2008 rather than jeopardize his future ties with the Saudis.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:45 PM
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12. The Bush Family does have very heavy ties to the Saudis.
Lots of money being exchanged back and forth.

Talk about a conflict of interest! Bush probably shouldn't be pResident due to that conflict!! Can anyone say "The Carlyle Group"?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:56 PM
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13. They don't need to lower production or stop selling to the US

All they have to do is start taking Euros instead of dollars for the oil. That kills our economy right there.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 03:10 PM
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14. The Saudi Royals want the US/UK Occupation to continue?
US and UK Troops and Agents are killing, wounding, &/or arresting Sunnis that are deemed Insurgents but the Saudi Royals support the Insurgency and want the US/UK to stay in Iraq? It is a bit confusing.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 05:17 PM
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16. I guess the worry is
that if the Coalition troops leave, then the Shi'ite militias and govt-sanctioned death squads will have nothing stopping them from carrying out all out ethnic cleansing on the Sunnis.
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Printer70 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 05:04 PM
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15. No, Saudis have given Bush cover
When the Saudis said they would fund Sunnis in Iraq if the US left, they gave Bush the cover to say, "See. I told you. If the US troops leave, there will be a regional conflagaration, with countries in the middle east funding Sunni's and Shi'ites in Iraq. It will be chaos that will engulf every country there. Thats why we have to stay."
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