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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 05:58 PM
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Former Cheney Adviser: ‘Iraq Is Now Bush’s Baby, And Cheney Doesn’t Want To Be Tarred With It’
Questioning why Vice President Cheney has been “publicly silent and mostly out of sight” since the Iraq Study Group issued its report, U.S. News reports that a former Cheney adviser believes the vice president is now cutting-and-running from the “grave and deteriorating” situation in Iraq:

“I think we’ll see less of him than ever,” says the associate. “Iraq is now Bush’s baby, and Cheney doesn’t want to be tarred with it in the eyes of historians.”

Regardless of the actions Cheney takes in the future, history will not forget that he has been at the center of the administration’s most egregious attempts to both sell the war (”we believe has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons“) and falsely report the situation on the ground (”I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency”).

Based on conversations with sources inside the White House, U.S. News notes there may be an alternative explanation for Cheney’s disappearance:

White House insiders say Cheney is playing an inside game, advising President Bush privately not to change course too much in Iraq, not to withdraw U.S. troops anytime soon, and not to talk directly with the hard-line regimes in Iran and Syria about the situation.

Cheney, an architect of current policy, is waiting for Bush to decide, perhaps early in the new year, what to do next before he speaks out. At that point, insiders say, he will go public to sell the president’s decision around the country, especially in speeches to conservative audiences who still have a high regard for Cheney, even though his popularity with the public is very low.

Cheney is reportedly advocating taking the side of the Shiites in Iraq’s civil war, a position which caused him to be “summoned” recently to Saudi Arabia and has stoked fears of a broader war in the Middle East. Whatever motivations Cheney has for remaining publicly silent, he seems intent on pushing his failed ideological vision to its disastrous ends, while escaping accountability for it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/13/cheneys-silence/
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:02 PM
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1. These Republicans just crack me up.
If it weren't for all the dead people, it'd be pretty funny.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:05 PM
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2. Cheney "doesn't want to be tarred by it" in history--too late, big boy!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:32 PM
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13. Ahhh .....but he plans to delay the inevitable.
Question is when eeverything is said and done, where will he go where will he hide.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:32 PM
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14. forever intertwined in my mind
seriously cheney must be "on his last throes" to believe thats going to work
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:06 PM
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3. Did he just say Tar and Baby? How offensive.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:06 PM
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4. HOW DARE HE DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM HIS WAR
that he talked Shrimp into, that he negotiated with the oil companies, that HIS COMPANY HALLIBURTON made BILLIONS off of after being close to bankruptcy in 2000?

HOW DARE HE TRY THIS ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!

ARREST THAT SCALAWAG and put him in with the regular (prison) population.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:12 PM
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7. When the sh*t hits the fan, Cheney will resign due to heart/health issue and Rice will replace him
killing any chances for McCain or Giuliani in 08. This you can take to the Bank!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:07 PM
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5. The vice president is now cutting-and-running
Gee, what a surprise....not!!!!

Cheney is reportedly advocating taking the side of the Shiites in Iraq’s civil war, a position which caused him to be “summoned” recently to Saudi Arabia and has stoked fears of a broader war in the Middle East.

This shit gets more and more interesting!!! Maybe Cheney doesn't realize that the shi'a are those bastards running Eye-Ran, or maybe he's hoping that a bunch of Iranian exiles will rise up and put Baby Shah on the throne and toss out the clerics!!!

.... he seems intent on pushing his failed ideological vision to its disastrous ends, while escaping accountability for it.

Eh, so what ELSE is new? Isn't that his MO for ever and always? Pro-war muthafucka with five deferments!!!


I notice that USNWR calls the source "the FORMER associate." Hmmm...Scooter? Mary Matalin?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:09 PM
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6. With repugs jumping ship, Bush looks like a manchurian candidate with each passing day
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:17 PM
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8. Cheney is a Sociopathetic Asshole,
if you will. :argh:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:26 PM
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9. rummy is playing the same game now also.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:28 PM
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10. Dick is one Duracell away from a dirt sandwich and he is worried about his legacy
These people are sick puppies.

Don
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:31 PM
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12. LOL..
... THAT was funny!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:29 PM
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11. but he has been in all the Photo-Ops this week.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:49 PM
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21. When I saw the 3 at the helm
GFY, dubby and kindaricey = all I could think of is ship of fools.
Us poor poor Americans are rudderless!
:dem:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:36 PM
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15. He 's got that right ...."escaping accountability..."
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:38 PM
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16. Well, whatever happened to...
IdesOfOctober and CorpGovActivist? I'd say the stuff those guys dug up, combined with the Nigeria bribery scandal being pursued by the French, combined with Plamegate, and a few other little thises-and-thats might be a hell of a lot better explanation. If I was him with that much shit swirling, I'd be talking to my lawyers 8x5 for DAMN sure.

But if anyone knows what's going on with CGA's activities, I'd be interested to know. I should probably be looking in the SEC archives and on those two web sites, and I think I'll suit actions to words. Hope nothing nasty happened.
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:46 PM
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19. A bit of research...
shows the HALWhistleblowers site is still on line. It was last updated on the 20th of November. The last post CGA made (at least on this forum) was the 3rd of December.

Wonder what's going on.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:36 PM
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30. Corp is in court this week.
State street bank had him arrested for tresspassing at stockholder meeting.Trial started Friday.He plans on asking some interesting questions that could really embarass bushco.
As for Ides I think he is a lawyerfor either Corp or the feds.Either way he is pretty busy these days.
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:38 PM
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32. Thanks for the info n/t.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:43 PM
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17. This is an attempt to save PNA C and more. No matter how old and
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 06:43 PM by higher class
how tarred President Cheney and Rumsfeld are, there are plenty of young ones in the PNAC Party that can carry on after Cheney is tried for illegal deals for Hallibruton and the KBR family of companies and friends. The world might also take he and Rumsfeld to court for war crimes. They are both doomed.

But the PNAC Party can be saved. Jr is not really PNAC - he didn't author anything - he is the gofer puppet who fund raises and does what Cheney, with approval from the higher up barons (so far), have allowed him to do. If he saves the PNAC Party, it saves the Baron Party, and the Republican Party.

The immediate prize is to gamble on Iran and the Shia to keep the oil he and Rumsfeld think they won (took).

I think any realist knows that Cheney and Rumsfeld cannot be saved in history. If only the same were true for PNAC and the Baron Party agenda of destroying this country so that we are no better than any other second or third world country. The dreams of your parents, grandparents, and great ones for their descendents may be lost forever if the PNAC & Baron Party succeed.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:44 PM
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18. Cheney is dangerous and a traitor, the sooner he leaves, the better!!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:46 PM
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20. Standing by with plenty of tar and feathers for the king of ALL chickenhawks......
history will NEVER FORGET this failed administration and its' destruction
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:51 PM
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22. Why Cheney is silently hiding
He's hoping to be inconspicuous enough that he won't get tossed before Bush either gets impeached, has a breakdown, or throws up his hands and quits. Then Cheney will be POTUS and will make the DOD a subsidiary of Halliburton. Imagine what that will do for his stock options.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 06:56 PM
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23. If we stay in Iraq we have to take a side in the civil war and when we do we
become the enemy of either Syria or Iran. I see the neocons wanting us to take the side that is favored by Syria and we then ratchet up the war with Iran. That was the plan all along. The civil war is welcomed by the administration now. Thus the fleet in the area.


You mark my word. The only hope we have is for the Dems to cut the funding. The neocons will not give up.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 07:31 PM
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24. As far as I'm concerned, Cheney can
GO FUCK HIMSELF!!!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:11 PM
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25. The arrogant bastard thinks
he STILL can manipulate public opinion, not to mention history? Amazing the limitless abundance of hubris.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:12 PM
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26. So Haliburton is going to turn over its profits now?
No, Cheney is tarred and feathered in this and he can't step away from it now.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:15 PM
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27. "And Cheney Doesn’t Want To Be Tarred With It" ... too late! n/t
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:58 PM
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28. "We will be greeted as liberators."
Whatever Cheney says, do the opposite.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:59 PM
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29. I'll never forget reading that Cheney picked up a magazine
to take down to the shelter during the 9/11 evacuation of the WH.

That's one cold motherfu**er
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:58 PM
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31. He knew he was in no danger.
Easy to be so cool when you know the plan.
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