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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:37 PM
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Did * actually have the balls to say the "war we found ourselves in"?
We FOUND ourselves in? This criminal, with the blood of nearly 3000 Americans and countless innocent Iraqis on his hands, implies that we just happened to wake up and find ourselves in the quagmire that is Iraq? That statement alone is an impeachable offense. Can it possibly get any more bizarre? Where is the outrage that should emanate from that statement? How will those Americans serving in Iraq feel about their daily life and death experience being spun into just one of those odd things that happen sometimes?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:38 PM
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1. Yes, but he trumped it by blaming 9/11.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:39 PM
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2. and the funny part is
not too many people even want to try to impeach him.....

Pathetic.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:49 PM
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10. And worse, we had Pelosi saying
"impeachment is off the table" B-E-F-O-R-E the midterm election. She needs to fucking wake up and start publicly adhering to and repairing our tattered Constitution --- that Bush and Cheney have spent the last 6 years sabotaging and spitting on.
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chaz4jazz Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:58 PM
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14. Get wise please...
Pelosi has to say these things. First of all, during the run up to the election we didn't need anyone getting all ants about the Dems winning and then going after Bush. Second of all, as Bush and Cheney will both eventually be kicked out of office, Pelosi becomes the sitting President. It would, and still does, appear very self-serving for the 3rd in line to be calling for the dismissal of the sitting executives.

She has never said there will be no investigations into wrong doing. And, if the investigations should lead to uncovering criminal and impeachable offenses by Cheney and Bush, THEN, she would have no recourse but to say that "even though prior to the election, I had stated that impeachment is off the table, the evidence presented to us now regarding wrongdoings by this administration leave the Congress, and me, no avenue but and impeachment proceeding of the President and Vice President."

That's the scenario I see about to unfold.

Chaz
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:33 PM
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19. No. Pelosi does not have to say
these things. I am sick and tired of the Democrats always feeling compelled to take the "high road". Sick of them worrying how their actions will be perceived or appear. It's time to rock the boat. Bush doesn't give a shit about appearing self-serving when he's adding "signing statements" to bills. Cheney doesn't give a shit when he tells a Senator on the floor of the Senate to, "Go fuck yourself!" The Republicans don't give a shit when they gerrymander districts or outright cheat at the polls. They certainly didn't worry about what we thought when they zealously and inexorably went after Clinton for L'affaire Lewinsky. Politesse, tact, elegance and dignity get you nowhere with these people and the stakes are too damn high with these fascists still in power. We certainly don't have to stoop all the way to their gutter level but we need to play very hardball. Absolutely bring on the investigations but I want more than investigations. I want formal impeachment and (hopefully) conviction. Personally I don't think the votes are there for impeachment but we owe it to our Constitution to at least try. This whole past 6 years reminds me too much of Germany in the 1930's when the Nazi's were coming to power. I don't want history to say of us, "Why didn't you stand up and be counted?" Why didn't you impeach? Why didn't you prosecute? Why didn't you fight?
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:39 PM
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21. Very well said - right on! n/t
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:02 PM
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22. Great post! I feel the same way--
I'm sick of pandering to crooks by means of "compromise." Pandering to crooks is selling out. The handwriting is on the wall, but have we forgotten how to read in the age of the 22-second sound byte? Democrats need to stand up for a democratic America.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:20 PM
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24. excuse me--it's not yet time. Wait until we actually take over, k?
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 11:21 PM by librechik
there will be time to do what's necessary then. Just imagine you are a general running a war. Do you have to tell the enemy and everybody else your plans even before you are in a position to do anything about it? Suppose you bragged that you were going to get rid of Cheney, but were not in any position to get rid of Cheney--yet. Do you think he would reject any method whatsoever to stop you? If he were sure you were going to do it? While he still has a shred of power?

We don't want that kind of trouble with these guys. They would stop at nothing.

Neither should Nancy--even if she needs to claim impeachment is the last thing on her mind. A girl is entitled to change her mind. After she has the effin gavel! Until then the gavel can hammer her.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:04 PM
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23. Yes...Survival to fight another day...
However....I may have phrased it differently.

Perhaps, "We have much to do. There are many immediate priorities to address, each deserving of our full attention." Yada...Yada...Yada...

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:51 PM
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11. I disagree with your premise. MANY people want to impeach him.
MKJ
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ewoden Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:42 PM
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3. When an alcoholic awakes from a binge. . .
sometimes he thinks the tree ran under the car.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:46 PM
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6. Thanks for the big laugh! You are exactly right!
I thought the same thing when I heard that sentence.

Dear god, we have lost our common sense if people believe this idiot. As the radio ad in New York used to say, "man oh Manashevitze, what a wine!" (Sorry for the misspelling).
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:43 PM
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4. WHAT FUCKING PLANET IS THIS?!
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 09:43 PM by mike_c
AARRGGHH! It wouldn't be so bad if it was just his head so far up his ass that he couldn't tell the difference, but half the goddamned country and most of the Congress seems to have their heads up his ass too!

:nuke:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 06:43 AM
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28. Yup. It must be getting crowded in there. n/t
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:44 PM
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5. I keep thinking I've heard the worst, then it gets worse.
We have truly fallen down the rabbit hole.

Redstone
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:46 PM
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7. I was just about to post a blog about that!
I was standing in the bank today when that was airing live and the guy in front of me and I just looked at eachother and rolled our eyes. What a stupid passive statement.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:47 PM
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8. do you have a link, please? a couple of trolls I want to point this out to.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:22 PM
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17. I just listened to it, about 40 seconds into today's speech -
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 10:22 PM by NRaleighLiberal
Here is the link to the article -

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/13/bush.iraq/index.html

if you go to the link and look partway down - "Watch Bush discuss successes, challenges in Iraq" - it is a hot link you can click.

Direct quote is "...how to secure this country, and how to win a war that we now found ourselves in..."
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:47 PM
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9. Remember when he was too stupid to unhook his parachute harness
and paraded around the deck of the aircraft carrier with his testicles pulled up to his belly button? He definitely has balls!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:57 PM
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13. that was a codpiece, he really has no balls.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:01 PM
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15. the bulge was too big for that ... I think it was actually his airsickness bag
He was looking around for a place to stash it, after the real pilots took over when he was pretending to fly that plane.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:56 PM
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12. The buck stops where?
Just wondering.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:19 PM
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16. A funny thing happened on his way to the forum
Stupid deluded little bugger just doesn't get it. Heh eh, someone caused a war over there and some folks got killed pRetzel :dunce:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:24 PM
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18. I want KO to do a SPECIAL COMMENT on this.
He is the man who can say what needs to be say concerning this issue.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:37 PM
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20. He could just shut up and be better off. But the amazing thing is
that * just keeps topping himself in stupidity. Does * try to be stupid? Or is * SO pathologically stupid that * actually believes * is saying somthing less stupid? I just HAS to be on purpose doesn't it? Nobody is THAT stupid.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:43 AM
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25. I wouldn't call it "balls"
because in some contexts that has a *good* connotation. All * has is dimwitted self-importance. And money and Daddy's friends.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:54 AM
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26. According to Republican History, Bill Clinton actually invaded Iraq
He did it sometime in between raping a girl and selling our military secrets to China for campaign contributions.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 07:47 AM
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27. Yeah. We just woke up one day...
...and found ourselves in a war in Iraq. I can see the conversation now. Dick walks into Dubya's bedroom, and...


Dick: Sir? Wake up sir.

Bush: Huh? Dick, that you?

Dick: Yes, sir. Sir, we've got a bit of a problem.

Bush: Was goinon?

Dick: Sir, were you drinking and playing with the red phone last night?

Bush: Only a little. Dick, what's goin on?

Dick: Well, sir... We seem to have found ourselves in a war.

Bush: A war?

Dick: Yes, sir. In Iraq.

Bush: What rock now?

Dick: I-raq. The country of Iraq, sir.

Bush: That the one with Saddim?

Dick: Yes, sir.

Bush: Weird. How'd that happen?

Dick: Beats the hell out of me sir. We just seem to have... ended up there. With 150,000 troops.

Bush: Wow. Anybody die?

Dick: Well, about three thousand soliders and half a million civilians. Or maybe half a billion. Don't really recall.

Bush: Damn, Dick. That sucks.

Dick: Tell me about it.

Bush: So whaddya think we should do?

Dick: Well, in any situation like this the important thing is to fire someone. And seeing as you're the commander in chief, I think it probably means we should fire you.

Bush: Ain't gonna happen. How 'bout Rummy?

Dick: Yes, sir. Oh, and sir, by the way, there was an election last night. We... appear to have lost both houses of Congress.

Bush: That "sorta just happen," too?

Dick: Sorta, yeah.

Bush: Cause o the war?

Dick: Might've been something like that. We seem to have found ourselves in the minority.

Bush: Aw, hell. Where's turd blossom?

Dick: Hiding in the bushes outside Joe Lieberman's office.

Bush: Should we fire him, too?

Dick: Probably not. Might spill the beans on you and Condi.

Bush: Yeah, he's a tricky little bastid.

Dick: Go back to sleep, sir. I'll take care of everything.

Bush: Thanks, Dick. Wake me up in a few hours. Don't wanna miss my cartoons.
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