Many right wingnuts are convinced Hillary murdered Vince Foster

[cali]

They don't have a shred of evidence, but their demonization of the Clintons and their hate are such that it enables that kind of paranoid and delusional thinking. They'll you a milllion reasons why dems are evil. You can't really argue with those folks, because they're faith based. And so are some of you here. I already know all the arguments forthcoming.
The odds are remarkably slim that Senator Johnson was poisoned by the neocons or whoever. Democratic Senators are not the only ones who get ill. Larry Craig has Leukemia. Arlen Spector also had Leukemia. John Heinz died in office. So Did Paul Coverdale (sp?).a


It is not unusual for men Senator Johnson's age to have health problems-even health emergencies that come on suddenly. I hope he recovers, even more for his family and himself than for the balance in the Senate.

There's something so atavistic about this conspiracy about Johnson; it's magical thinking: It's sad, and it's lacking in grace. Sometimes, bad things happen without human agency. Sometimes you don't get to have a guy in a black hat to blame. Sometimes life just sucks, and it's nobody's fault.

[Hippo_Tron]

1. Wait, so Hillary didn't kill Vince Foster?

That's news to me.

I guess it was Bill Clinton's penis then

:rofl:

[rfranklin]

8. No, she was having a lesbian affair with the Easter Bunny....

whose husband was the late Santa Claus. Together Hitlary and the Bunny killed Santa. I read it at World Net Daily.

[TheCowsCameHome]

19. I thought the little brown oval things wrapped in tinfoil were testacles.

You mean the EB is a girl?????????????????

*I'm devastated*

[Bluebear]

2. 'The odds are remarkably slim that Senator Johnson was poisoned by the neocons'

I will agree with that statement in its entirety and nothing more.

[cali]

4. Then let me amend it:

The odds are that hugely in the favor of Senator Johnson having become ill without any purposeful human intervention: No one tried to murder or incapacitate him.

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[cali]

6. I felt the need to post this

because there have been so many threads asserting that Senator Johnson is the victim of malfeasance. As for my speculation; it's a matter of common sense- Occam's razor. There is no sound reason to suspect foul play in this case, anymore than there was in the case of Vince Foster. No one has presented any evidence.

[Lerkfish]

9. my point is you're allowed to express yourself, others are not

enjoy your priveleged freedom.

:)

[cali]

10. Please open your eyes

There are four or five open threads currently, positing that Sen. Johnson was felled by nefarious means. Sheesh. The paranoia is so strong around here that people can't see what's right in front of them. Yes, a couple of threads have been locked. Many more have not been.

[Lerkfish]

22. please open yours: from your OWN keyboard:

"and many thanks to Skinner for putting the brakes on the wild speculation that's broken out."


open your own eyes, man. My accusation: one side is being locked. You post happy congratulations on locking the other side down, then you accuse me of being paranoid to point out one side is getting locked down.

this isn't rocket science, dude. open your own eyes

[cali]

23. Up until Skinner put the brakes on

there were several conspiracy threads running. Yes, I'm glad that Skinner put the skids on, but you're correct that those wanting to post wild speculation have been curbed.

[Lerkfish]

24. so, before you label me as paranoid, but now admit I'm correct?

okeydoke.
glad we got that settled.

for the record, my objection was to how the brakes were unevenly applied in this instance. I did not have a strong feeling either way on the speculation, though I did have some early suspicions. MY objection was to the concept of what is an isn't acceptable to THINK here.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

5. Oh you poor deluded thing

"Sometimes life just sucks, and it's nobody's fault." That sounds like something you cobbled together from a lifetime of personal experience and observation. How on God's green earth can you trust that?

In Cantdide, Professor Pangloom tells us that "everything is for the worst in this worst of all possible worlds." Everything bad that happens, happens for a bad reason. Hence if a Democrat falls ill, 'twas ill that felled him. Q.E.D.

:sarcasm:

[B Calm]

7. I thought Vince Foster was murdered by Bob Barr and Trent Lott, Henry

Hyde drove the get-away car..

[Red Zelda]

14. Vince Foster was insane

[William769]

11. Better be careful cali

It seems lately that people who make sense on DU get shunned and are labeled closeted neocons.

[cali]

12. I've had stupid accusations

tossed my way many times. I've never "sat down and shut up" before because of it, I'm not gonna start now.

[William769]

13. Good for you!

[zbdent]

15. Aw, come on ... are you going to believe that flaming liberal apologist who proved

it was merely a suicide?

You know, Ken Starr?

[NewJeffCT]

16. Umm, they had 5 or 6 separate investigations into his death

Finally, even Tony Scalia got sick of it and told them to stop when they appeal got all the way up to the Supreme Court.

[cali]

17. That's hardly my point.

There is no evidence that Senator Johnson was the victim of a plot by anyone, andymore than there's any evidence that Vince Foster was murdered. There are paranoid whacks on both sides who are only to eager to believe stupid shit.

[NewJeffCT]

21. I agree with you

But, I was also pointing out that Republicans were able to engineer 5 or 6 investigations into Foster's death with no evidence of foul play.

[independentpiney]

18. Thanks for inserting some common sense on this

It is like a form of magical thinking to assume without evidence that neocons ot karl rove are responsible for any misfortunes that befall Democrats or the country in general. They are simply not that smart or powerful. Comparison with wingnuts and Vince Foster are quite apt. A mirror can be a handy tool.

[cali]

20. Thank you for

stating that so well, and many thanks to Skinner for putting the brakes on the wild speculation that's broken out.

[tabasco]

25. Were billions of dollars at stake in the Foster scenario?

At least the current conspiracy theory has a viable motive.

[librechik]

26. "Femme Fatale" is a very appealing stereotype to some men

their simple (and twisted) minds don't allow them to accept women as anything other than a terrifying threat.Since they don't have the desire to find out the facts )thagt's hard) they just accpet the stereotype and embellish it with their own paranoias. Hillary is a delightfully bland and blank slate for them to project their fantasies on. If she were more vivid and proactive, making her real opinions known fearlessly at every step instead of hedging, it would be more diffivcult to stereotype her. But it would also give the screaming megaphones material for their smear machines. You can't win with these people.

[Big Sky Boy]

27. That rumor was maliciously propagated

by Rush Windbag, conservative hacks at the "American Spectator" and the editorial staff at the Wall Street Journal.

The WSJ does an excellent job at reporting the news, but their Op-ed page sometimes actually makes Fox look fair and balanced. They were mercilessly critical of the Clinton administration and when Foster himself actually referenced them in his suicide note, they were desperate to draw attention away from the fact that they may have been partially responsible for his death--so they started repeating conspiracy theories about his possible murder.

I canceled my subscription to the WSJ after that and have never read it again.

[Catherine Vincent]

28. I must not be paying attention.

Where is all this talk of conspiracy pertaining to Sen. Johnson?

[cali]

29. Just do a search

Prior to Skinner banning it, there were several threads.