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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 02:59 PM
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Sen. Johnson survives. Conservatives across the country disappointed that prayers aren't answered.
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 03:00 PM by gatorboy
Is that what it takes to join the "family values" crowd these days? Pray for the death of a man so you're corrupt political party can stay in power?

'Tis the season, I suppose.....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:01 PM
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1. Amd merry Chirstmas to you to
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 03:01 PM by nadinbrzezinski
scrooge.

:sarcasm:

Now you get it, we need to pray for the death of a man becasue he is rather invonvenient
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:02 PM
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2. Guess they'll have to go back to praying for John Paul Stevens' death
Assholes.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:03 PM
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3. .
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 03:04 PM by Hav
What did I miss? Who was praying for his death?
Even the large majority of Freepers didn't do something despicable like this.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:10 PM
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5. Why would it surprise anyone?
It wasn't that long ago that Pat Robertson requested mass prayers so God "will remove judges from the Supreme Court quickly" . I think we know what he and others wanted...
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:31 PM
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12. But do you have any proof that anyone has actually prayed for his death?
Or is this just wild speculation?
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:36 PM
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14. Wild specutlation my ass -
"I actually don't think we should pray for his recovery.
I think we should pray for God either to convert him to the cause of righteousness, or...that God would remove him from any position of influence whereby he can harm our country. Perhaps someone has already been praying that. I think that is called imprecatory prayer. Of course we should be praying that about a lot of the politicians that harm our country, but, it seems especially appropriate now that Johnson is physically vulnerable.
That's just the way I see it.
271 posted on 12/13/2006 2:07:12 PM PST by ConservativeDude"
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:41 PM
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16. Two things:
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 03:43 PM by Kelly Rupert
1. That isn't praying for his death. That's praying that he convert or be removed from office.

2. By the "actually" and "that's just the way I see it" he's clearly speaking against the majority opinion. By "perhaps someone has already been praying that," he's admitting that he hasn't yet found anyone else who's prayed the evil way he wants them to, but he's suggesting that they might exist.

It's kind of ironic that you find one post in which a freeper admits to being a dissenting voice--and disagrees with everyone around him who is praying for the good Senator's recovery--as your proof that right-wingers in general are praying for his death.
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:47 PM
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19. I didn't say anthing that would tarnish all right wingers, did I?
So, unless you were speaking to me personally in point #1 and not doing so in point #2 then you are off base.

Here's a definition of imprecatory prayer -

"Imprecatory prayer: To pray for evil or misfortune (malediction, anathema, execration)"
http://www.moseshand.com/buildup/prayer.htm

Who knew? I swear, these folks are making up their own religion all along.

If you are dead set on proving what the Freepers had to say, I suggest you email the webmaster there and ask for copies of all the posts he deleted yesterday.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:51 PM
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21. Are you suggesting one man's opinion,
which was in clear contrast to the majority opinion of Free Republic, is evidence that "conservatives across the country" were praying for his death?
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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:55 PM
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24. I never suggested any such thing.

Are you OK? You might want to take a nap or something.


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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:26 PM
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33. That is an overly nice distinction in point 1.
And the slim reed of point two gives credit to that community that seems undeserved in light of past incidents.

You can step out on that twig and pray hard. I will watch from a safe foothold, and wave.

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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:35 PM
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13. I followed this story on FR yesterday
The Mods were deleting posts like crazy but you could tell what had been said by the quotes in the replies etc. It was nasty.

Were they praying for his death? Unequivocally, yes they were.



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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:10 PM
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4. Prayer doesn't work.
The chimp is still walking. Except when he falls.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:11 PM
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6. Proof once again that there is no God. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:11 PM
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7. Actually, most over at FR were praying FOR his recovery
They were being decent for the most part.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:39 PM
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15. Unless all you saw were the posts not deleted. Here's one:
"I actually don't think we should pray for his recovery.
I think we should pray for God either to convert him to the cause of righteousness, or...that God would remove him from any position of influence whereby he can harm our country. Perhaps someone has already been praying that. I think that is called imprecatory prayer. Of course we should be praying that about a lot of the politicians that harm our country, but, it seems especially appropriate now that Johnson is physically vulnerable.
That's just the way I see it.
271 posted on 12/13/2006 2:07:12 PM PST by ConservativeDude"
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:45 PM
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17. Ironic you'd pick a dissenting voice
who's complaining that nobody else is praying alongside him. Solitary sick crazies exist everywhere. They're the exceptions, not the rule.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:49 PM
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20. Yes that's ironic. nt
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:46 PM
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18. 1. They had the sense to delete them
2. We have asshats over here too. One or two exceptions I saw, but mostly they were being good.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 04:08 PM
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28. when I browsed over there...
the prayers for his recovery were quickly followed by non-stop patting themselves on the back for how noble they are and how those evil Democrats would never show such decency

I don't believe for a second they are genuine. It's for show...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:01 PM
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30. We saw the same thing over here with Tweety
when he was hospitalized....
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:18 PM
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8. Stay off small planes
The GOP thrives on the misfortunes of others.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:23 PM
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9. Got a link? Or are you just making stuff up?
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 03:25 PM by MathGuy
I haven't heard of conservatives praying for his death.


From instapundit.com: http://www.instapundit.com

I HOPE THAT TIM JOHNSON TURNS OUT TO BE OKAY, and I don't have much more to say than that. But here's a big roundup from Pajamas Media if you want more.

From powerlineblog.com: http://www.powerlineblog.com

Once again, we extend our sympathy and hopes for a full recovery to Senator Johnson and his family.


From blogsforbush.com: http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/2006/12/democrat_senato.html

UPDATE: Senator Johnson has had surgery, though it is still unclear what his malady is. Our prayers go out to him and to his family and we hope for his speedy recovery.


From Michelle Malkin: http://www.michellemalkin.com/

It's unconfirmed, but word is that U.S. Senator Tim Johnson (D-S.D.) has suffered a stroke. First and foremost, keep him and his family in your thoughts and prayers.


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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:27 PM
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10. Clarkie is right, the Freepers were mostly all praying for his recovery
and talking some about the implications of course as we would and are.

The worse I have heard is Rush Limbaugh - he was talking about how Reid would do whatever necessary including keep him on life support if necessary to keep control of congress and talking about the Shiavo case and how we all were wanting to let her die and how would we handle that in this case.

Did'nt catch it all but was pretty much that. Guess he and his listeners forgot it would be a family decision as we all support not congress.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:30 PM
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11. Do you have a link or are you making shit up?
As far as I saw, the right-wingers were all praying for his survival.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:53 PM
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22. Pffft! Right.
As someone mentioned before, the negative posts over this at the FR were getting deleted left and right. The party of Pat Robertson that prayed for God to open up a few spots on the Supreme Court have turned a new leaf? I don't think so.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:55 PM
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23. So you're saying that the fact that you can't find a link
to back up your claims is proof that Republicans were merely trying to hide their evil?
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 04:01 PM
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25. Hide their evil?
You must be new. Welcome! :hi:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 04:02 PM
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26. Do you seriously doubt that conservatives aren't doing this?
Are you interested in the bridge market?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 04:03 PM
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27. Are you Karen Hughes? Fess up. nt
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:43 PM
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34. How could you question the bona fides
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 05:43 PM by realpolitik
of someone who has been here all the way back to Nov 7, 2006?
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:15 PM
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35. .
And you only know that because the poster doesn't hide her/his profile...
I think the treatment that this poster receives is not warranted and one shouldn't be ridiculed or attacked for being a new member.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:10 PM
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40. perhaps you are right
But I think that before we salute the miraculous re-appearance of collegiality from the other side we should be willing to consider
that when the republican party was in the majority in all three branches instead of merely two, some breathtaking, hard to
forget things were said about folks like Paul Wellstone, Andy Stephenson (remember the freeping of PayPal(tm)?), and Jean Carnahan in the wake of the death of husband and son.

So hey, you are right, I lost my temper. Mea culpa and forgive my rudeness.

Also, but forgive my paranoia regarding people who join on Nov 7th, during the massive
defeat we gave the pubs, and speak FR fair. Of course it is a simple conjunction of unrelated facts.
It is entirely likely that a lot of folks celebrated voting by joining DU. Again, forgive my rudeness.


And I am sure that there are some sterling, civil folks over in freeperville. That is what makes
civil war such an oxymoron, I suppose. In the first one, basic sartorial choices regarding blue over butternut got you killed.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:42 PM
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42. The following page tells me all I need to know about Freeper geniality.
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 10:43 PM by gatorboy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604353/posts?q=1&&page=1

I just find it very hard to believe that they've gone from

for the past eight years, to


But I suppose stranger things have happened...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 04:57 PM
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29. It's disgusting when it happens
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 05:02 PM by DesertedRose
x(

But, unfortunately, not surprising. And I mean that for both sides.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:02 PM
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32. i dont know how factual it is before you become to disgusted and
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 05:03 PM by seabeyond
maybe pleasantly surprised that the right isnt wishing for this mans death. from what i hear many people on the republican board is not wishing for the mans death. also before we become too arrogant, i have seen posts on this board about republicans dying and a harshness and uncaring, even contempt and disgust for them. one of the most recent was spittin on the dead kirkpatric
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:02 PM
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31. They want us all dead.
Repigs hate living creatures.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:50 PM
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38. I'm sure they have plenty of imprecatory prayers for "the Muslims"
(probably referred to as "the terrorists"). When it comes to an American though, most of them are "decent." Yeah, right. Americans are human, after all, even if they are libruls. :sarcasm:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:45 PM
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45. :nodding:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:26 PM
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36. They sicken me
and MSM is no different.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:27 PM
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37. But can Senator Johnson still serve with that type of brain damage?
That is the main question... And even if he can serve, will he want to?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 07:34 PM
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39. "that type of brain damage"?
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 07:35 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
What type of brain damage are you assuming he has?

Also, see post #7 in the following thread: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2917500#2917771
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:28 PM
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41. Well I don't know if across the country, but one of my idiot relatives...
in Georgia had the nerve to say she was praying he wouldn't recover so the Democrats would lose the majority in the Senate. I also saw several quite nasty candles at the Light a Candle site. I do not know if they have been removed or not. Speaking of that site, I must be one heck of an idiot. I could not figure out for the life of me how to add one.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:44 PM
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43. It's like their god is acting out of smite
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:11 AM
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44. any real man of faith would have been praying for his recovery...
and many did. However, there are always the phonies out there that put on a false front to disguise their inner demons.
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