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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:31 PM
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Man Shoots Great Dane In Head
POSTED: 2:58 pm EST December 14, 2006
UPDATED: 3:21 pm EST December 14, 2006

PAINESVILLE, Ohio -- A man who shot a Great Dane, who later died, in the head was sentenced to 180 days in jail Thursday by Judge Michael Cicconetti.

Cicconetti suspended 150 of the days, and Robert Clark can work off 20 of the remaining days by visiting every elementary school in Painesville dressed in a safety pup costume.

For two years, Clark cannot possess any gun or have any animal, Cicconetti said.

The Great Dane died.

Cicconetti is well-known for his creative sentences.
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/10535579/detail.html

Another sick-ass. :grr:
Not so sure that I'd want him around my kids.....
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:34 PM
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1. We really need a basic bill of rights for animals
How can we tolerate this kind of cruelty?
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:51 PM
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14. I think it would be difficult to pass.
You'd have to consider what to include as "torture." You know the Guvmint can't figure that out. Then there's all the nuances of wording and figuring out when and how you can kill an animal. Some politicians will try to include a tax cut for the rich or something that will kill the bill.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:51 PM
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19. The guy's actions were already illegal
What good would a bill of rights for animals do?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:34 PM
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2. This is so sad. He shouldn't have suspended one day.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:36 PM
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3. What a bastard.
That said, that last sentence threw me for a second. I simply wasn't thinking "judicial sentences" when I read it, and thought, geeeez, what an odd way of saying that the Judge says off-the-wall things!!!
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:36 PM
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4. But why? Why did he shoot Marmaduke?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:47 PM
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13. We don't need to know. Shooting a dog is illiberal.
But with no other information I'd guess the Judge based his decision on actions of the defendant that the judge deemed unlawful.

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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:37 PM
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5. So this guy only gets 10 DAYS in jail for torturing an animal?
Why the hell do we, as a country, put up with this crap? There should be some sort of regulation for people who do this to animals. Hurting and killing animals is one of those "warning signs" of a sociopath.:mad:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:37 PM
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6. A SAFETY PUP costume????
So if he kills a baby, will they dress him up as Baby Huey? :mad:
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:45 PM
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12. Wasn't Baby Huey a
Duck?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:19 PM
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15. Sorry, I meant Baby Herman
from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I always get that name wrong.

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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 07:37 PM
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21. How about Baby Finster?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:16 PM
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25. Oh Finster baby!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:37 PM
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7. "later died" you mean that poor dog lived for a while?
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:38 PM
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8. Sounds like it.. :-( n/t
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:43 PM
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31. That's actually why he was charged.
It generally isn't illegal to shoot a dog as long as the shooting is done humanely and as painlessly as possible. This guy shot his dog once and walked away while it was thrashing around in pain. He tortured it.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:39 PM
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9. SICK BASTARD!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:42 PM
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10. which great Dane...? Lars von Trier?...Gabriel Axel?
god knows there aren't very many to begin with...

http://denmark.dk/portal/page?_pageid=374,477811&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

oh wait...it was a dog...

well that's very different.

nevermind.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:29 PM
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16. Well, it couldn't be Victor Borge, could it?
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:43 PM
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11. I can't even deal with these types of threads....
Because they are quite sad. I'm hiding it, but only for my sanity... not for lack of newsworthiness.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:30 PM
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17. I want that man in jail
Fucking disgusting :puke:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:33 PM
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18. Yeah, that's great, have a DOG KILLER visit kids in their classrooms.
:grr:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 07:27 PM
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20. I imagine the idea is to tell the kids not to be like him.
This judge is very well known for creative sentencing, and much of it has focused on animal mistreatment. Last year he sentenced a woman to spend a night out in the woods because she had dumped kittens in the woods, leaving them to die. That was pretty controversial too, but he emphasized that she would be monitored the whole time and wouldn't just be left out there alone to fend for herself. He ended up letting her come back in after only four hours.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:05 PM
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22. I'm sure that's the idea. But maybe he should take his costume to prison.
Or maybe he can work at the local Humane Society, and watch how the dogs balk and resist being taken to the "Delta Chamber," because they know that death waits behind that door.

Bastard didn't even give the dog a chance to be adopted by someone. :(
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:07 PM
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23. Having had to euthenize animals in the field
I realize that there is a difference between sadism and mercy, but the headline was not quite so clear.

Let me say that I really really don't approve of torturing living creatures. I also believe in euthanasia with a firearm, if that's what you have.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:31 PM
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27. Doesn't sound like euthanasia to me.
"He was arrested July 3 after neighbors reported hearing the dog's cries and police found the injured animal. The humane society took the dog to an emergency veterinary clinic, but he suffered brain damage and had to be euthanized, the group said."

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/16248708.htm

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 07:56 PM
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35. This sounds like sadism
and possibly sociopathy.

But the wording of the subject/headline seemed odd from my perspective.
The story is more like, 'man arrested for torturing animals.'
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:48 PM
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33. Gotta be careful with that around here.
I live in the country and have had to put some dogs down this way too (generally ferals). I mentioned that in another dog shooting thread and was flamed for it. To me, if the choice is between letting an animal suffer for hours while waiting for a vet to arrive, or shooting it and putting it out of its misery, the choice is pretty clear. There are many people here on these boards who don't agree with that point of view, and see ANY shooting of animals as evil.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:35 PM
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34. They certainly have a right to that opinion
But I hope never to be reincarnated as their pet.
I am about as progressive as it gets. But a gun is a tool.
It is the hateful bastard behind the trigger that is the problem.

He could just have easily used a ball peen hammer.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 09:09 PM
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36. I've heard it's the most humane way to kill an animal
A farmer I know who raises pigs for his dinner table says he used to take them to the slaughterhouse but was appalled by the cruelty and trauma there. Now he takes the pig around to the back of his barn where the other animals can't see it, and as he talks softly to the animal he shoots it in the head. He says that up until the last instant of its life, the animal knows no fear and no anxiety.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:31 PM
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37. I would imagine not.
I suspect it is far better than having to stand around in a lot smelling the fear and blood of other animals.

Having grown up in the boonies, I have a bit of butchering experience myself, but mostly deer.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:14 PM
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24. Why did he shoot the dog?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:33 PM
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28. To Stop it From Barking......
"Painesville - A man who fatally shot his Great Dane to stop it from barking may end up doing some "barking" of his own - dressed as a dog - in local schools."

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/lake/116617521872570.xml&coll=2

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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:47 PM
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32. That's a bad reason.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:43 PM
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26. 'safety pup' !!!!!
that is sure creative. i sure hope that judges idea of a 'creative' sentence for a paedophile doesn't include trips to elementary schools to lecture about 'stranger danger'.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:34 PM
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29. One hopes a Senate seat is not in the offing...
...or is that only for cat killers? :P
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:39 PM
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30. These are the people who should be wearing GPS collars
Those who torture/kill animals go on to torture/kill people. It's much more certain than whether a "sex offender," whatever that means, will offend again.
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