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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:43 PM
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Where has all the money gone, Why are the states always broke?
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 08:43 PM by bagrman
Well This might explain some of it, seems all of the states have their own investments, and are quit happy to hold on to them.
NY State CAFR Pension Wealth Alone - $133 Billion
.
http://www.rense.com/general74/donf.htm
.
The Complete NY State Government Retirement Fund CAFR 2005
(Comprehensive Annual Financial Report).
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/retire/aboutus/annrep05/arcover05.htm
.
The current domestic and international stock holdings for this ONE CAFR:
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/retire/aboutus/annrep05/assetlist091405.pdf
.

This is only 1 states CAFR report.


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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:44 PM
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1. Federal $ to states have been cut way back. States still have to provide
services. D'oh.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:49 PM
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2. Back in the 80s
a lot of formerly-federal responsibilities were shifted back to the states.

And I'm not sure how pension money figures into this. Those funds are there to protect long-term obligations to the employees who paid into them, NOT to fund the government.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:50 PM
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3. What does the NYS retirement fund
have to do with states being broke? It's state retiree's pension money.

I just don't get your point.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:03 PM
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4. s/d
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 09:04 PM by valerief
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:06 PM
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5. The money's gone to Halliburton
by way of Iraq contracts
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MOB Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:23 PM
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6. dont understand Q
I dont understand the question - actually many state budgets are posting unexpected surpluses this year - CT posted a surprise surplus, for example.
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:46 PM
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7. It equals $133billion, with a tiny slice of that you could fund a lot of schools.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:00 PM
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8. We had a surplus in Texas and then Dumbya became governor.
And it all went away.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:09 PM
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9. I find that absolutely shocking!
:sarcasm:
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