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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:27 PM Original message |
You know most people here were brought up christians - |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. define "most" |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. 3 out 4, 4 out 5 - around there. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. interesting, but not necessarily true. according to this site the numbers |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I wasn't brought up with religion, thankfully! |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. attending church has got nothing to do with christianity... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I don't think going to church has anything to do with it. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I knew you knew. ;) it's personal and available anytime. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Wait, you don't necessarily believe there was that particular person, but |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. yes, and I'm not nuts to think that. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Oh, I do believe he was the son of god - I really do. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I have some problems with all these hefty guys... being guys... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Oh, Questionall - it is just the way we see things. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. It's the way we are told to see things. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Given the demographics of the nation, the odds are on the side... |
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Homer Wells (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Agreed and AMEN!!!!! |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. totally agree-- my problem is with christians who don't take that advice... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. If they don't keep their thought to themselves - |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Um, you started this thread we're in. See any irony here? nt |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I see irony in a lot of things Wonk - |
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Greybnk48 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Both of my parents were Atheists |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
79. Exactly the same here n/t |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. I understand your frustration. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. You're giving credit to the christian left for Dem victories... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It can go both ways Sid - |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. Those folks need to understand the concept of tyranny of the majority |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. You know - we believe what we believe - |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. that seems pretty harsh Joe, he was just pointing out the Founders |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I don't want it to be - |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Religion has NO place in politics??? Or no place in government? |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:09 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. At the point it is being injected into political discourse - |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. So Jesse, Barack, Clinton, etc. should just keep their beliefs |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:23 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. You know - I can't tell you just juvenille I think that is. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. WTF do you think is "juvenile"? |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. That you presented a circular argument. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:47 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I'm afraid that makes no sense to me. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. I didn't say not to mention it -I am trying to say don't look down |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I promise not to make light of you. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That is all anybody expects. |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
63. Except if somebody has the audacity to mention the founding fathers. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. The founding fathers had a tyranny of their own |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:30 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. You need to read their writings some day. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 04:05 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Lol. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. I wasn't brought up with religion. I was however brought up a liberal. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. I'm kinda grateful I was... catholic. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. You know - I never did put a lot of attention into what the church |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. as I said, I knew you know. ;) |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. that's how every religion perpetuates it's particular myth... |
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RadiDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
66. Yup - Episcopalian to Happy Atheist |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:11 AM Response to Reply #66 |
82. yeah, my lutheranism wore off a long time back too... |
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Rob H. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. "...powerful christian left... tipped the balance of power last month." |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Do you choose your religion or are you born into it? |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. You have to choose what you believe. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
20. Where'd you get that "most"? |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. You grew up in the same america, right?? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. You say you want to leave religion out of political discussion... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Oh, to the extent it excludes people I shout my lungs off. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. I agree that people should not be made fun of for their beliefs. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Again, I suspect some want it both ways. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Of course, you also realize... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. You misread my post. Those were examples of beliefs I might ridicule. But in all seriousness: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. Leave religion out of politics? Hell yes! |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Entirely too many, sadly. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. I was brought up Catholic. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. No disagreement from me. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
38. My dad was ostensibly "Christian" |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. Well, I say the socially libertarian, pro-pot legalization, porn watching vote tipped the balance. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Damn funny!!! |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I was only half kidding. Really, It's just as valid as your assertion. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Well, then maybe you are right. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. Joe for Clark I completely understand what you are trying to say |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You said it better then me - |
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RadiDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. Maybe it's time for you to reclaim your religion from the hateful Fundys |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. That is what is happening - we were just slow. |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
54. I posted this on another DU board.... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. It is a nice post Bryn. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
57. you first |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:10 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I could guess what you are talking about- but why don't you tell |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:39 AM Response to Reply #61 |
78. you, Christians, keep your religion the hell out of politics |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
59. I'm with you 100% Joe. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Good for you Tatiana!! |
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RadiDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
67. Boo - hoo! You're the majority. Think how the Scientolgists must feel |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Just leave us out of it - we are not asking much here. |
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RadiDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. As I said above 'reclaim' your religion from Falwell and Robertson |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Is that a fact??? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
76. No, you can't stick up for YOUR choice until your religion stops condemning me for what it THINKS is |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. I don't condemn any one for any reason. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
81. You're fighting an impossible battle |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. I don't know - I think most people are decent. |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
89. It just so hard to put up with the complete bullshit with NO evidence... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. This has nothing to do wiith politics - |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. "There is historical evidence about what happened 2000 years ago." |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
90. Totally agree |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. It is absolutely astounding to me the way this |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I saw that, like "Left Behind: The Rapture" game? |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Oh yeah - this is the headline on the faithful amerca alert |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
94. It's hard. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. It is hard - it has ben made hard lately. |
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