Would you leave your spouse/significant other if they got a gun?

[billbuckhead]

[Rabrrrrrr]

1. How asinine. I'd only leave if she stole one of mine.

Leaving a spouse because of a gun?

What is this, pre-school?

I feel sorry for anyone so immature.

[MuseRider]

23. I was just thinking the same thing.

Mine is out trying to decide if he needs a handgun. I say no but he is worried moving out into the country(don't ask I can't explain his fear). I think we are fine with a shotgun. I hate guns but I am a damned good shot if I need to be.

[Kerrytravelers]

2. My love for Mr. kt wouldn't stop if he bought a gun.

Where is this question coming from?

[Little Wing]

3. Absolutely not, I'd make sure she got one that fit her hands

and that she got hours of practice.

[billbuckhead]

11. Odds are it's someone close who will kill you and not some anonymous criminal

What's bringing it up is another rash of guys killing their families or women with guns. There are 200 justifiable homicides a year of all types vs 546 women killed by men they knew by guns


Female Homicide Victims and Weapons

Firearms—especially handguns—were the most common weapons used by males to murder females in 1999. For homicides in which the weapon could be identified, 53 percent of female victims (865 out of 1,647) were shot and killed with guns—more than 63 percent by male intimates. The number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate acquaintance (546 victims) was more than four times higher than the total number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined (133 victims) in single victim/single offender incidents in 1999. In homicides where males used firearms to kill females, handguns were clearly the weapon of choice over rifles and shotguns. In 1999, 76 percent of female firearm homicide victims (656 out of 865) were killed with handguns.


Female Homicide Victims and Circumstance

The overwhelming majority of homicides among females by male offenders in single victim/single offender incidents in 1999 were not related to any other felony crime. Most often, females were killed by males in the course of an argument—usually with a firearm. In 1999 there were 1,464 incidents in which the circumstance of the homicide between the female victim and male offender in single victim/single offender incidents could be identified. Of these, 87 percent (1,270 out of 1,464) were not related to the commission of any other felony.

Of the non-felony homicides, 62 percent (789 out of 1,270) involved arguments between the female victim and male offender and 52 percent (408 out of 789) of those homicides involved guns. According to the Supplementary Homicide Report data, in 1999 there were 317 women shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances in single victim/single offender incidents during the course of an argument—nearly one such murder every day of the year.
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<http://www.vpc.org/studies/dv4one.htm>

[Wcross]

17. Would you feel better if they were shoved out a window Bill?

You will notice that 47% were not killed by firearms. The mere fact that a gun is present does not cause domestic violence and murders. The classic response will be "Guns make it easier to kill". I would think that a knife, a shovel and a bag of Lye would make it easier to get away with.

[billbuckhead]

26. Makes it lot harder without a gun

Much easier to kill people with guns than anything else. That's why the USA leads the advanced nations in murder and now Swiss women are leading the charge to change that nations' promiscuous gun environment which resulted in so many deaths of women.

"There are more and more homicides in the home and more and more of the victims are women," says Lisa Feldmann, editor-in-chief of Annabelle. As well as having one of the highest gun-suicide rates in Europe, Switzerland has more women shot dead than almost anywhere in the Western world, many of them after arguments with men. The wake-up call for Swiss women came with the killing of alpine skier Corinne Rey-Bellet earlier this year. She was shot dead by her army reservist husband 10 days after leaving him. Gerold Stadler, who also killed Rey-Bellet's brother before committing suicide, used his service pistol."
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http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1919124.ece

[Wcross]

31. Guns don't kill people....

...Husbands that come home early do!

[uppityperson]

24. Guess all women should be lesbians then, right?

and not let men into their homes.

[Gman]

4. Must be a really boring Sunday afternoon

[billbuckhead]

14. More people dying from guns everyday in the USA than our soldiers in Iraq

More people dying from guns in America than from all other forms of terrorism combined.

I guess it's all about values and who's getting shot.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. LOL Nothing more important to worry about today?

[Renew Deal]

7. It depends

If this person is afraid of domestic violence, maybe not. BTW, my answer was no.

[comsymp]

6. Then we could go target shooting together!

[Schema Thing]

8. Clarification?: is she pointing at me and telling me to gtf out?

if so, my answer is an unreserved yes.

[mcscajun]

9. Only if theirs was bigger and better than mine, or they wouldn't

go to the range with me. Of course, first I'd have to have an S.O. The gun I already have. :evilgrin:

[tridim]

10. I dumped a group of friends because they got into guns

But that was right after high school. I'm not talking about a .22 handgun, but black market automatic shit. The gun people they dealt with were scary as hell. I ran away fast.

[Wcross]

12. Wise move IMHO.

I guess you were the one with the brains in that crowd?

[Sabriel]

13. Don't you mean ANOTHER gun?

The first one was fine, the second made me go Hmmmm, and a third one might make me a tad nervous.

[gollygee]

15. We have a stronger marriage than that

I would be upset, and I would fight the purchase, but I love him more than I hate the idea of having a gun.

[bridgit]

16. no...

[Rosemary2205]

18. I would, reluctantly but I would

my man is not a gun guy and is on the autistic spectrum. His judgement is not always trustworthy because in crisis situation he is incapable of processing information fast enough to make a sound judgement. If he acquired a gun and refused to get rid of it, I would still love him and hope the best for him, but I would not stay married to him. I am unwilling to held personally and financially liable for the death he would likely cause through error or neglect and I am unwilling to spend the next umpteen years constantly fighting over the fact he is making a mistake trusting himself with a gun.

[dsc]

19. If we had kids, then yes

but if not, then no.

[treestar]

20. Probably your spouse would either be the type who would get one

or not and that would come out before the relationship went that far. The person would probably have the gun already.

If after many years, a spouse changed to that point, I would think the spouse who did not want the gun would end up prevailing, as until they were OK with it, the other spouse would not get the gun, in the few cases where they did, the break-up of the relationship would likely have other causes and this is just the symbolic last straw.

I am more afraid of guns than of the odds that someone will actually break in to kill me and I will need one, maybe that is burying my head in the sand, but even watching a ton of court tv does not get me thinking it is likely. The odds seem so exotic. I would not have the gun unless I got lessons on how to use it and practiced, and that would all take so much time that I would have to feel like the chances that I am going to need it to defend myself are too minimal to make that much of it.

I am like this about terrorist attacks, too.

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21. Do you lie awake at night thinking up these kind of questions?

:eyes:

[Irreverend IX]

22. Poll not going the way you hoped, Bill?

I'd like to thank you on behalf of the pro-RKBA crowd at DU for your tireless efforts to defame gun-grabbers by association.

[billbuckhead]

27. I'm just educating

I bet many didn't know about the efforts in Switzerland by women to get guns out of homes or that there are only around 200 justifiable homicides a year in the US vs 30,000 gun deaths and over 100,000 shooting victims.

I bet many also didn't know they are more likely to be killed by a legal gun owner they know than a criminal they don't. Heck, might save someone's life.

[AZCat]

25. I'd be forced to get a cat to protect myself.

Then they'd probably leave me.

The cat, however, could stay afterwards.

[seemunkee]

28. Yes

No that I am that much against them, but it would be so far removed from any normal behavior of hers that I would be fearful that she had completely flipped out.

[yasmina27]

29. I've never liked guns

and when our older daughter was 6 weeks old, my husband and I had an unfortunate incident with a shotgun. I told him if he ever brought another gun in the house I would leave him. Without going into gory details, I've been terrified of guns ever since.

He got a BB gun last year to shoot groundhogs in the garden. I told him to get rid of it. He did.

I WILL NOT have a gun in my house - end of discussion.

[donheld]

30. What a silly notion

No way would I leave someone just because they bought a gun.

[Catchawave]

32. No. I'm married to a Marine.

:evilgrin:

[benEzra]

33. LOL...just saw this thread...

my wife already owns guns:



Since she's owned guns, for, oh, 10 or 11 years, it's a little late to be leaving, I'd say...

[cobalt1999]

34. A wife wanting ALL her rights! What next?

Give a woman her 2nd amendment rights, next thing she'll want to exercise her rights to free speech and then, god forbid, she'll want that damn 19th amendment right to vote too.

Nope, got to draw the line before things get out of hand.

*** do I really need to add the sarcasm graphic? ***

[madokie]

35. know how my friends know she doesn't yet have a gun, I'm still alive

[Lilith Velkor]

36. He knows I prefer swords, but hey, it's the thought that counts.