Kaine's response was imo plenty good, i reject out of hand...

[bridgit]

republican aspersions as to it's not having any specifics regarding ideas, or policy.

are you fucking shitting me!!!!

this from a group prepared to deliver on absolutely zero '0' of their "america is addicted to oil imported from unstable parts of the world 'well duh! dumb-ass'" freaking president? mother fucking lunacy of the 1st order.

with china, of all countries, seeking incursion into our auto market, bush's tax giveaway to the rich was clearly ineffectual. better products are the answer and not handing the super-rich the ticket and means to out-source, off-shore, or fly their factories to central china, or elsewhere http://www.mcall.com/business/local/all-winchesterjan19,0,1162709.story

there is no energy policy

there is no education policy

there is no immigration policy

there is no health care policy

there is no foreign policy republicans can point to with any specificity beyond beating, threatening, or blackmailing people into submission, and denying them the results of their own democracy much like republicans have done here in the united states of america.

the only policy republicans adhere to with any consistency and specificity, is shoveling buckets of money to no-bid cronies, family owned defense contractors, and american corporations willing to take jobs, money, and resources out of the states so that wall streets 'paper bottom line' looks agreeable to the investor class :thumbsdown:

clearly there is more, but republicans simply do not want to hear them, and when in the event they do, they simply deny or discount them out of hand. that is not debate. that is why it is simpler indeed for them to not invite dems into session, easier to allow votes to stay open until they get they votes they want. easier to deny democracy it's outcome because they without asking for any specific reasons; that were their policies to be explain in detail, a requirement they DEMAND of all but themselves, they would been seen as not palatable to the american people.

this from a republican party who's president has cast the world, and not just republicans, into a world veiled the spilling of blood, and the waste of national treasure for generations to come.

i don't care what chris matthews says, Kaine's response was imo plenty good; it is enough as an opening to state, and as simply as he did, that this president's policies wrong and failed. details to follow upon request.

i only hope the dems to not falter but continue to step up to point out what is all too painfully clear. and that, at it's base, is this:

it is time for bush, his handlers, the bfee political machine, and all republicans that defend, or offer him cover for his failed policies, to be removed from office starting 2006!!!

and that is as it should be :patriot:

[BlueEyedSon]

1. The bush guys wouldnt know POLICY if it bet them on the ass. They are pure

POLITICS.

[bridgit]

6. agreed...

[linazelle]

2. He offered plenty of strategies, they want to deny that--he was excellent

I was on the phone with a friend watching Kaine together and afterwards, she listened to the commentators (Chris Mathews and some guy) trash him and kept asking "who are they talking about?", "are they talking about the same person I just listened to"? I kept saying that she was only person who didn't think the way the commentators did--that it was 'just her' and not them. We laughed, but in truth, that's how millions are led to feel watching today's media. They lie, they twist, they omit and distort and tear down the best. I look for "dirt" on Kaine to start popping up any second now--seems he is also "formidable" as they like to call Hillary.

[bridgit]

3. that is correct, he didn't have allot of time for that matter, maybe...

if others were given a project, to stand before the nation with a handful of moments, introduce yourself, connect, and then begin to solve every broken policy on the nation level they would understand a little better.

i've had quite enough of matthews sitting on his ass pontificating. i remember too well how it was he got his job, ragging on clinton while asking THEE most bodacious, run-on sentences ever recorded.

i think Kaine did just fine.

dems do need to understand media better, need to have a come-back in hand as well. or a question as to why they allow the message to drift so, while the nation requires focus.

[murray hill farm]

4. It was an excellent response!!

Just excellent!

[bridgit]

5. very classy, with their asses hanging out all ready to kick, i think...

that's what surprised republicans the most :rofl: :kick: