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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:11 PM
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Laura Bush has skin cancer
Removed from one of her legs in November. Colmes just said it. My husband was flipping channels and I made him stop when I heard it.

Laura doesn't appear to be the tanning type.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:13 PM
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1. Wouldn't surprise me if
she liked to putter in the garden, though. Texas sun is brutal. I hope they got it early.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:13 PM
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2. You can get skin cancer just walking around....
with legs bare, I've heard. Of course, a thinning ozone layer could play a factor, but Laura would say there is no such thing, right?
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:50 PM
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25. Thats the main cause of skin cancer
Too much sun, the thinning ozone layer, and UV rays that are harmful, its like the biggest form of cancer down here in NewZealand.

I wish her a full recovering, but its kinda ironic that her party's policy on the environment hasnt help her own condition.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:53 PM
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26. Hello to you!
Always glad to chat with someone from New Zealand!

I too feel it ironic that she would get skin cancer, but wish her a speedy recovery.
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Margaret Diann Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 05:52 AM
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54. Think again
There is a lot of 'accepted' reasons for this cancer or that ... but do you ever hear anyone say it is from the fumes of exposives ... from 2-butoxyethanol?

http://groups.msn.com/clean/laurabush.msnw">My thoughts on Laura Bush

http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/australia-diabetes.htm">My thoughts on why WW II Countries have so much Diabetes, NHL, carcinomas

Also CFIDS? CFS? FM
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:13 PM
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3. Lots of people have skin cancer .... no big thing
She could have been "tanning" @ SMU.
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:15 PM
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4. That's sad.
I don't have a lot of respect for her or her husband, but I hope she is okay. No one should have to go through the pain of cancer. No one.

And she's fair-skinned enough that she wouldn't have had to be the sun bathing type. Even a couple of bad burns as a kid is enough to increase a person's risk. And she was a kid at a time when no one realized the risks of sunburns.

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 11:11 PM
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34. exactly
i've had two bcc's removed from my face, and i'm 51. a fair complexion and sunny southern california don't really mix too well. we didn't know any better in the sixties and seventies. the only "sunscreen" available then was zinc oxide. by then, there had been a

laura bush is no different
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:55 AM
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42. Yeah and that TX sun is really strong
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:15 PM
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5. That sucks
even though she's *'s wife, I hope everything's okay with her.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:17 PM
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9. ditto
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:15 PM
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6. Maybe that's why she sports the "cover-up" appearance so often
All the best to her.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:57 PM
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27. Yeah she always
has her legs covered, never wears skirts unless they are floor length. All in all I wish her the best too.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:16 PM
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7. Leg? Not Lung?
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:17 PM
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10. Leg, not lung
I truly think Laura is a smoker, she has those vertical lines around her mouth.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:22 PM
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13. I think it's known that she's a smoker.
Public information, but low-key.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:29 PM
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20. She is a heavy smoker, I am amazed
photos have not been published.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 02:48 AM
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44. Getting skin cancer in one's lungs would be ... inconveniencing... (n/t)
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:16 PM
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8. I wish her well.
Doesn't sound serious, fortunately.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:18 PM
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11. I do indeed hope they got it all. They usually do with the skin stuff.
Politics be damned when something like this come up.

Redstone
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:19 PM
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12. This is no big deal.
Unless it's melanoma. My DH has "skin cancer" removed every six months. It's just something you keep an eye on and not a painful removal process either.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:28 PM
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19. i go through it too (redhead here!). i grew up on the
Edited on Mon Dec-18-06 09:37 PM by ellenfl
beach in florida and have been suffering skin cancer since '88 because of that early exposure. she probably got some bad sunburns at south padre beach and it is now manifesting. hopefully, it is basal cell like i get and no big deal as long as she sees a dermatologist a couple of times a year.

that explains the pants she wore to church. i thought it was kind of out of character for her to wear pants instead of a dress.

ellen fl
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:30 AM
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38. Has his dermatoligist looked at it as a "field problem"
rather than just single recurrences?

Read something recently - and I don't remember where - that if there are recurring instances of actinic keratosis on the face or arms, some dermatoligists treat the whole area rather than just the single outbreak. The thinking is that because of cell damage the recurring AK's are part of a larger underlying problem.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:41 PM
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49. Only on the hands.
Thanks for the info, though!
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:24 PM
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14. Just an Attempt to get sympthapy for the White House residents.
nothign else has worked and more people like pickles than her asshat hubby


this is just a ploy

they thought they would receive love and support like Mrs. Edwards


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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:46 PM
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24. Yeah that's the ticket.
:eyes:
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:00 PM
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29. A ploy?
I hope you forgot to use the sarcasm tag. If not, that's a pathetic thing to post.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:25 PM
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15. Oh shit.
Best wishes, Laura.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:26 PM
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16. McCain Had skin cancer as well
among a lot of other illnesses. Why the fuck is he a favorite again?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:27 PM
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17. Who knew pure evil caused cancer?
NT!

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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:27 PM
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18. I hope they got it early enough
I know people who don't tan that have gotten skin cancer. We all grew up playing outside before we heard of using sunscreen. Suntan lotion & oil was popular then but not sunscreen.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:30 PM
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21. Probably basal cell -- no big deal nt
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 11:14 PM
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35. please don't trivialize it
have you had it? i have, and it's no picnic having your face cut and burned every couple of years.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:14 AM
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36. yes, I have
and it was very trivial.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:19 AM
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well, good for you
but everyone doesn't share your experience. i found it very traumatic.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:19 AM
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37. duplicate
Edited on Tue Dec-19-06 12:20 AM by shanti
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:33 AM
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39. it's squamous
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:32 PM
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22. Squamous cell: Risk increases with smoking...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:40 PM
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23. Yahoo link to the story.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:58 PM
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28. It is generally not problem... my g'ma had almost 100 removed
over the years and died on 9-7-01 at 92 years old.
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:03 PM
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30. Breaking on CNN now
Removed from right shin.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:43 PM
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31. Shouldn't there be a sort of source for this?
I know this administration is really secretive about their medical probems, particulary George's drinking and oh well Laura's nice pill problems but if you post this do you have a source?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:47 PM
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32. I saw the story on MSNBC
A reporter noticed the bandaid and asked her about it. She told him that she had had surgery to gett the cancerous spot removed.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:52 PM
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33. See Post #22 n/t
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Margaret Diann Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:43 AM
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40. It is probably a chemical exposure
Not too much sun

Always blaming things on the sun, on smoking, on asbestos

The soft tissue sarcomas are on the list of many military eras, even Vietnam Vets ... (& Believe me most of what harmed them was the other chemical in the mix - not DIOXIN or agent orange)

Have to blame something, don't we?

Many baby boomers can get this singular health issues plus brain tumors, AVMs, leukemia, http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/paradigmshift.htm">DIABETES as a late to show up 'birth defect'

http://groups.msn.com/RenalLiver">Look in the direction of the chemical that http://groups.msn.com/valdezrentals/birthdefectsetc.msnw">harms military and civilians alike AND their children
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:53 AM
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41. There's a clear link between sun exposure and skin cancer
and it usually occurs in the areas of the body which receive the most sunlight.

"The best ways to lower the risk of nonmelanoma skin cancer are to avoid intense sunlight for long periods of time and to practice sun safety."

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/ped_7_1_What_You_Need_To_Know_About_Skin_Cancer.asp?sitearea=PED
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Margaret Diann Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:57 AM
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48. that's just what they THINK
Dioxin by the way is NOT the cause of harm to the Vietnam VETS

Sarin gas, depleted uranium, vaccinations NOT the primary harm to the 'gulf war vets with the syndrome'

Any study on these two groups and you may find some harm from each of these AND other things.

HOWEVER, the main cause of harm is the 2-butoxyethanol chemical that was there in the mix ...

They will look alike, if anyone bothers to LOOK

So, if you think that diet and exercise is all someone needs to loose weight, think again. Many, many people have autoimmune metabolic issues from this chemical exposure. It is not their fault, as is commonly believed.

It is NOT asbestos that caues mesothelioma lung cancer.
It is the other chemical that was everywhere it was

AND if sun cancers causes some cancer, could be

BUT it is not the primary cause of soft tissue sarcomas, or the cancers that it gets blamed for.
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Margaret Diann Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:26 PM
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52. Laura Bush should NOT use 409 cleaner
http://groups.msn.com/clean/laurabush.msnw">Laura Bush - skin cancer

It's most likely NOT from too much sun exposure.


AARP Quote: Upon turning 60, Laura Bush commented that she like to use bleach & 409 Cleaner to clean with ....

(Nov, 2006 she had a squalmous skin cancer tumor removed from her knee) She is also a 'baby boomer' That could mean someone in the military in her family line. No epidemiology studies for the WW II Vets

Be careful what you clean with ! Laura Bush should not be using 409 Cleaner ... she could get 'the syndrome' too ... Civilians call it CFIDS

_______________________

Check out what is in 409 Cleaner ...
put in your search browser: 409 Cleaner MSDS

MSDS stands for Material Safety Data Sheet
and if you find one written before 2003, you should see a version of ethylene glycol monobutyl ether with ethylene oxide

If you find one of my links, let me know 409 Cleaner MSDS
_________________________________

Most of the time there is nothing too concerning about the way ingredients are mentioned or the warnings, either. Simple Green has the same chemical as that of the bioremediation workers of EVOS at half strength. I had a Col in USAF contact me a few months back and say that all he did was clean his bathtub for 15 minutes with Simple Green and he was having trouble breathing.

Why I think the USA can't find the real cause of 'gulf war syndrome' or CFIDS as I would call it for civilians:


Quote:
People don't take the warnings on home cleaning products seriously. What Should the Hazard warnings be on products? Why not say instead that they will have damaged: blood, liver, kidneys, skin, eyes, central nervous system including depression and short term memory loss, and suicidal tendencies; endocrine system (high blood pressure/high blood sugar/reproductive damage) and tell them, too, it doesn't take much exposure to cause this! The more exposure the sooner you die; and the more horrible the death. Cancers very probable. Children at risk for birth defects and leukemia and tumor of the brain. Multiple existing health studies 'skewed' because the primary cause is not mentioned or known:

2-butoxyethanol poisoning


Ever heard of Lorenzo? Came down with ALD after his family moved to USA from Africa. Got sick and has been lanquishing all these years. Probably some chemical like this has harmed his mom's mom or dad ... and then whatever exposures he had directly to the cleaning products the maid might have used (My thoughts)

His mom blames herself for what happened to Lorenzo; her husband blames himself for her lung cancer that took her life (as though second hand smoke was the problem) Things are all mixed up

Lorenzo - ALD
Adrenoleukodystrophy

Types Leukodystrophy

Do not spray

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 01:00 AM
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43. My grandmother had skin cancer...
It took months of recovery and was very hard on her. This place was on her ear. I don't care for Laura Bush, but I don't wish harm to her.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 03:01 AM
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45. Probably sleeping
Next to Satan doesn't help..
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Margaret Diann Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:53 AM
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55. Sleeping? Maybe right about that part
You see, many spouses are affected by their spouses exposure to the chemical that I suspect is the real cause of most carcinomas wherever they show up.

It is called second hand solvent exposure.

You didn't work directly with a chemical (however,http://groups.msn.com/clean/laurabush.msnw">Laura does clean}

Gulf war vets noticed it ... so did Pres Eisenhower ...

http://groups.msn.com/oddsnends/2ndhand.msnw">2nd hand

http://www.valdezlink.com/solvent_studies.htm#story">second hand

http://groups.msn.com/oddsnends/another2ndhand.msnw">Just attended a convention in her state

http://www.valdezlink.com/gwv/2nd-hand.htm">Ran a museum & came down with 'the syndrome' too Groups of gulf war vets toured

http://www.valdezlink.com/cfs/dec24.htm">a lady was in a crowded mall on Christmas eve, 1990

http://www.valdezlink.com/cfs/marathon.htm#know">Just running a Marathan in 1979?


http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/whataboutpresidentshealth.htm">What about our Presidents' health?


Well if Pres Bush is being exposed by others he comes into contact with ... and passes it on to his loved ones ... they could be getting flatulance or diarrhea when he comes around
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 03:07 AM
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46. When the newscaster said she had a malignant tumor,
I said 'Yeah, her fucking husband.'

Couldn't help myself.

Here's hoping Laura's recovery is speedy and complete. Being married to that idiot is punishment enough.

- as
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:22 AM
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47. Too funny....I had the exact same thought when a broadcaster said that Laura Bush had a malignant
tumor removed....I immediately thought "The removed George?"
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:58 PM
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50. Sorry to be such a hard-ass, but there's not one single tragedy in this world that could happen to
any of the Bush clan that would make me feel the least bit sympathetic. I wish every malady, every hardship, and every heart-breaking experience to engulf this entire family for every day any one of the assholes is alive and stealing oxygen someone else could be breathing. Burn in hell, every damn one of you, and the sooner the better. I hope the rest of your days are full of misery and pain.
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Margaret Diann Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 02:38 AM
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51. lost a 3 year old to leukemia
Be careful what you wish on somone else ... as it could come back to you

http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/lostchildren.htm">Lost children
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:29 PM
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53. They don't deserve that...
indictments, trials and jail time...yes, they definitely deserve that.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:58 AM
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56. Bad health is the one thing I would never wish upon anyone
Besides, when the impeachment happens, I want them all to suffer in good health.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:20 AM
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58. At the risk of spoliing the party here...
My father passed away from cancer 3 years ago. It was agonizing to watch the pain and suffering he was going through.

Yes, Laura Bush is married to an asshole. But I wouldn't wish any kind of cancer on anyone. Even Laura Bush.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:15 AM
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57. Too bad; hope she'll be fine
Most non-melanoma skin cancers are quite curable. My mum has had several, and is fine. Even melanoma is very curable if caught early, but much more dangerous if it isn't.

Most of the people whom I know who've had skin cancer are fair-skinned people who've lived in sunny countries during parts of their lives.
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