Did Cokie Roberts wake up too? Roberts: America wakes to dying dreams, dead soldiers

[radfringe]

Roberts: America wakes to dying dreams, dead soldiers
http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/stories/12/18/18roberts_edit.html
Cokie Roberts and Steven V. Roberts, NEWSPAPER ENTERPRISE ASSOCIATION
Monday, December 18, 2006

Cheektowaga, N.Y.; Thibodaux, La.; Pflugerville, Texas; Presque Isle, Maine; Westerville, Ohio; Marysville, Wash.; Redding, Calif.; Stokesdale, N.C.; Bapchule, Ariz.; Oxford, Ala.

These are the hometowns of 10 American troops killed recently in Iraq, 10 of almost 3,000 fatalities. And there will be many more. The good folks of Pflugerville and Westerville and Marysville no longer believe their sons and daughters are dying for a good reason, but President Bush seems in no mood to hear them.

Yes, he fired Donald Rumsfeld. And yes, he will announce next year "a new way forward." But listen carefully. It's clear the president is not really interested in a "new way" at all. He still firmly believes that his old way is right, that the war was justified, that "victory" is the only way to keep Stokesdale safe.

---snip---

But the president has not only lost the "battle for hearts and minds" across the Arab world, he's lost it across the United States. The people of Bapchule and Oxford no longer believe his words or trust his judgment. Virtually everything he ever said to them about the war — from "Mission Accomplished" to "absolutely, we're winning" — has been wrong.

---snip---

The nation is facing an enormous tragedy. Bush can't or won't leave Iraq, but staying means Pflugerville will keep burying its children. Only a new president will be able to stop the dying.

[K8-EEE]

1. Wow...

She was such an apologist for them for such a long time.

[tblue37]

34. Maragret Carlson of _ Newsweek_ is another one.

She savaged Gore, and when asked about why on TV, she said the press knew Gore wasn't the liar--and that Bush was--but they savaged Gore instead because, in her words, "It was so much more fun to go after Gore." They really do think they are the Kewl Kidz clique in junior high school!

Oh, and add Maureen Dowd's anti-Gore and anti-Kerry snark to the list. She is just as bad.

I would love to smack every one of them upside the head--repeatedly.

[Tinksrival]

40. Did she and BF Laura have a spat?

I would love to be a fly on the wall at their next luncheon. On second thought, naw.

[K8-EEE]

51. Oh BARF Remember When She Wrote That First Ladies Thing....

And she was saying Laura was SOOOOOO important and effective in....something or other....I forget, some BS, maybe selling the war or something? But it was truly sickening, blech.

[roody]

53. Fuck Cokie Roberts.

She long ago lost any credibility. Three and one half years late.

[Trajan]

2. As much as I appreciate her change of heart ....

Her cheerleading for the neocons has been absolutely mindnumbing ....

Cokie ? .... FUCK YOU !

[Tansy_Gold]

20. No, we should welcome her

If we don't welcome those who change their hearts and minds, we'll never be able to effect change.

Aren't we out there -- and out here -- trying our very damnedest to change people's hearts and minds? Isn't Cokie Roberts' heart and mind good enough for you?

I don't know about you, Trajan, but I personally get tired of always preaching to the choir. I like to get out on the street corner once in a while and bring in the occasional convert.


Tansy Gold, who was once a convert herself

[FredStembottom]

23. Thank You, Tansy!

That is the way!:thumbsup:

[radfringe]

27. ;) to you

I know that cokie has been carrying the kool-aid for quite awhile - however based on this editorial, someone has slipped caffine into her kool-aid and she's awake now.

back in 2000, during the "re-count" and immediately afterwards, those of us who were still upset were referred to as the "radical fringe" - (now you know where I got my name from and why the toons carry that name), we were also characterized as 15-percenters.. as if by calling us radical fringe and 15%-ers some how made us wrong

don't know about everyone else, but from the poll numbers, we aren't 15% anymore - we're a hellavalot higher now. and growing everyday with people like cokie finally waking up.

[Tansy_Gold]

37. Yeah, you don't win elections with 15% of the vote!

We did pick up a few converts, didn't we! ;-)

And I for one am damn glad we did.

[patricia92243]

35. Yep!!

[Morgana LaFey]

36. Sure, welcome her

but that doesn't mean we can't hold her accountable for her sins, too.

[JohnnyLib2]

3. Cokie is very late with this, but it still counts.

Let's see, that leaves Laura, Barney, Cheney, Limbaugh and ???

[izzie]

16. And the crying women on c-span

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[Hardrada]

4. Didn't it take her about that long to come around on Vietnam?

I know LBJ was at her wedding.

[Cocoa]

5. "America" has been awake

the beltway pundits, which Cokie is the ultimate example, have been the ones sleeping.

Cokie was also way behind the public on Clinton's impeachment. "America" saw it was b.s. while Cokie was selling it.

[EST]

6. Cokehead Roberts is a mind-numbed robotic fool,whose

opinions, despite her high profile as a "political analyst," have exactly zero credibility. Her me-too conversion is of little value, given that it is, no doubt, no more than a cover to retain her right-wing extremist dumbass position at the feeding trough.

She is an inflexible dork, whom, obviously, I don't like - for good reason.

As far as I care to look, anyone who has waited until after the mid terms to declare a sudden epiphany has no stature as an opinion leader, merely being a political opportunist whose finger in the wind has determined which way to turn to be a total suck up.

Yes, the number of "born agains" has a little importance as regards the steamroller about to run over this evil administration, but where the hell was she when we really needed her?

[GreenZoneLT]

7. Cokie Roberts uses a ghost to write op-eds?

Geez, I know she's busy, but do you need a double byline to write a simple column?

[anitar1]

8. Her coauthor is the husband , if I am not

mistaken. He is as RW as she is.Just 2 more rats jumping ship.

[paulk]

44. he's actually a lot more right wing than Cokie

and for him to put his name on this is more significant than for Cokie to.

[Judi Lynn]

9. How many people are familiar with the story her father, Hale Boggs,

the Democratic House Majority Leader was another Democrat who died in an airplane, this one over Alaska, with three others? From Wikipedia:

As Majority Leader, Boggs campaigned often for others. In October, 1972, he was aboard a twin engine Cessna 310 with Representative Nick Begich when it disappeared during a flight from Anchorage to Juneau, Alaska. Begich's aide and the pilot were the only others on board. The four were heading for a campaign fundraiser for Begich, who faced no opposition in the November 1972 general election.

In the largest search ever mounted by the US military, Coast Guard, Navy, and Air Force planes searched for the party. The search was abandoned after 39 days. The mens' remains were never found. The accident prompted Congress to pass a law mandating emergency locator transmitters (now called emergency position-indicating rescue beacons) in all U.S. civil aircraft.

Both Boggs and Begich were re-elected that November. House Resolution 1 of January 3, 1973 officially recognized Boggs's presumed death and opened the way for a special election.

The events surrounding Boggs's death have been the subject of numerous conspiracy theories. These theories often center around his involvement with the Warren Commission, but some tie his death to alleged corruption charges or his outspoken opposition to powerful FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. Some people, including several of Begich's children, have suggested that Richard Nixon had a hand in Boggs's death in order to thwart the Watergate investigation. None of these theories has ever been proven.

Conspiracy in the death would be virtually impossible, however, since it would involve convincing Don Jonz, the pilot, to kill himself along with his two passengers. He deliberately flew into known icing conditions, having written the lead article for Flying Magazine of November 1972, entitled "Ice Without Fear." In the article, Jonz boasted that 99% of the current wisdom regarding flying in icing conditions could be safely disregarded.
(snip/...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs



Hale Boggs, and another Democrat!

[Eric J in MN]

11. The bad luck of having a pilot with flaky theories that ice...

...on wings isn't really dangerous.

[malaise]

13. I also wondered how she veered so right

given her Democratic roots.

[Tesha]

19. Money. Privilege, Access to power.

> I also wondered how she veered so right
> given her Democratic roots.

Money. Privilege, Access to power.

Tesha

[Cha]

41. "Money. Privilege, Access to power." =

Mediawhore.

[Tesha]

42. A'yup! (NT)

[pnwmom]

46. I think it has been more a case of bending over backwards

to be fair to the other side.

And so she falls a lot.

[TheDebbieDee]

10. Fuck Cokie.............

And all these "Johnny-come-latelys" that have recently come to know the truth that Democrats have tried to deal with knowledge of for several years!

Cokie was one of the media WHORES that enabled this group of thieves steal the Presidency from Al Gore.

Cokie was one of the spinners that helped the Gang that couldn't shoot straight explain away the wasted minutes that the moron spent reading "My Pet Goat" after being informed that the WTC had been attacked.

I could go on and on and on, as could anyone else could do here at DU, but I need to keep my blood pressure lowered.....so I'll stop now!

[KansDem]

24. I remember during the Campaign of 2000...

Cokie came on NPR with a report about Bush's "charm offensive." She went on and on about how Bush will get things done in DC because he will "charm" his critics and detractors into yielding to his wishes. "He's charming, oh so charming..." was the crux of her "story."

Made me sick to hear...:puke:Cokie

[Judi Lynn]

45. Oh, my god. I'm so glad I missed it. It's STILL horrible, hearing it so much later.

He's charming only to the most drunken, most brain damaged of our citizens, beyond all doubt. He would only appeal to people who play his oafish game.

[stubtoe]

26. I'm with you 100%, DebbieDee.

There's no change of heart here. She's just woken up to the fact that if she doesn't jump ship with the rest of the rats, she loses what's left of any journalistic "cred" she has.

Not that anyone here thinks she has any. Presstitutes, beware!

[thingfisher]

38. You know, I remember all those flags waving from almost

every car after 911, horns blowing. I remember the sense of outrage that some enemy would attack us like that! I remember how eager everyone was to strike back at somebody. I remember how the whole congress assembled together on the steps and sang (was it) God Bless America? and rallied round "the war president!"

We have been through it all before. Patriotic Americans ready to send their sons and daughters (now) off to war to avenge the savage blow. Then when the body bags start coming in in droves and there is no discernable result of all the carnage, the war hysteria cools and turns to disgust.

Why can't we ever learn?

[bobbolink]

54. "Where have all the flowers gone..?"

"When will they ever learn...."

:cry:

Maybe a Department of Peace would help us to learn?

[roody]

56. The congress was ready to send OTHER people's

children off to war, not their own.

[ixion]

12. covering her a**, hoping people don't remember that she's been a cheerleader

all along, NOT asking questions when it was prudent to do so.

[cascadiance]

31. I guess she'll say she's showing she's "fair and balanced" if questioned on things...

[Neshanic]

14. Cokie gets her own rat lifeboat. More to launch as rats continue to jump ship.

[Ganja Ninja]

15. Virtually everything he ever said to them about the war ...

was praised and parroted by Cokie. Now she wants to wipe the blood from her hands as if she was an impartial observer instead of the soulless boot licking enabler she's been since day one.

[flordehinojos]

17. as long as the new president is not john mccain.

[Junkdrawer]

18. So Cokie "Weather Vane" Roberts is turning...

Must be a stiff breeze to be felt in the Washington DC cocktail party circuit.

[MetaTrope]

21. She's been traumatized ever since reporting on the devastation of the New Orleans yacht club

:eyes:

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

22. I seem to remember cokie saying in 2000 how "refreshing"

it would be to have a C student as presdident. and remember she said that the 2000 recount was

ruining her christmas holiday party planning. oh, and her infamous quote about those generals with

all the medals couldn't possibly be lying to us.

edit: remember when she put on her winter coat and pretended to be reporting from outside the

capitol when in fact she was in the studio standing in front of the "green screen" with video of the

capitol behind her.

[Lasher]

32. Refreshing to have a C student as president?

No, tell me she didn't say that.

"I never knew anything above Cs." - President Reagan, in a moment of truthfulness, describes his academic record to Barbara Walters, November 27, 1981

http://www.geocities.com/thereaganyears/reaganquotes.htm

Good to see Cokie finally changed her tune for whatever reason. We should welcome this in her as an individual. Maybe she'll vote for Democrats now and perhaps even post here some time. But get her off the air. Just as many others have done, she has shown that she is not qualified to opine on 'news' programs where she has been in a position to sway public opinion.

It would save a lot of time to identify which media pundits have not soiled themselves with their unquestioning endorsement of the endless string of Junior's lies.

[stubtoe]

33. Vote for Democrats? That'll be the day.

She's too much in love with her role as a public "opinion shaper" for the Right to switch loyalties.

[pnwmom]

48. Do you realize that her whole family has been active

in Democratic politics? I bet she's been voting for Democratic politicians all along.

[rustydad]

25. Bill-o

I flipped to bill-o during a Countdown commercial break last night just to see what the far Reich was up too. He had some military general and was actually grilling him on the Iraq mess. He was pretty convincing. I think the war mongers are imploding. Bob

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

28. I remember ONE thing about Kookie Roberts:

She CANCELLED an audience with Pope John Paul II in order to suck a semen deposit from Lewinsky's blue dress.

Just another, typical Washington insider with no discernable principles.

Welcome to the real world, Cokie. Now crawl away and die.

[flyarm]

29. FUCK HER..3000 SOLDIERS DEATHS TOO LATE!!

AND 655,000 IRAQI DEATHS TOO LATE..

FUCK THAT BITCH!

AND LIAR!!

FLY

[otohara]

30. OMG she's unbelievable.

Oh excuse me, it takes two assholes to write this garbage.

[faithnotgreed]

39. so is she also stating this when she is on the air or is it like chris matthews

saying one thing in one semi-public forum but seemingly replaced by their evil twin when they appear on the more mainstream shows

[hatrack]

43. Fuck you, Cokie. Way too little, way too late.

Just another enabling Beltway whore who's realized that it's now safe to surf since most of the rest of the beachgoers are long since out on their boards.

[WinkyDink]

52. Agreed. She can KMA.

[undeterred]

47. Was she in a coma?

Or a neocon vegetative state?

[kestrel91316]

49. Too late Cokie. Go suck an egg.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

50. can't stand her-hate her husband steve even more

he's a supposed 'democrat' who attacks labor frequently, claiming their opposition to unfettered corporate 'free' trade is a "hideously backwards position"

they're both out-of-touch pundits who know nothing of reality outside of the beltway and are the epitome of what's wrong with political journalism in america

[Lilith Velkor]

55. If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line, but it better work this time.

Can you put a price on peace?

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