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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:36 AM
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The crew who are causing so much strife in the world today got their wings with the Nixon Whitehouse
they over reached then and that led to their momentary loss of power. Then President Carter came along and further slowed down their visions of a world empire. They came back into power with a vengeance with the Reagan administration and were well on their way to having us where we are today, lost liberties, the shredding of the constitution etc etc. Then the Big Dog comes out of nowhere and puts the skids on their over reaching once again but now here we are with the same damn crew on their same damn mission, world domination. I realize some of the original members are gone but the ideology lives on in the newer replacements. We had a chance to put them out to pasture with the Iran-Contra illegalities but we failed and are paying dearly today. This crew really needs to be stopped before the world is destroyed.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:45 AM
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1. That is correct and those who were prosecuted and convicted back then
.....were all pardoned, allowing them to come back and do it all over again
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:49 AM
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3. Will we ever learn
I think we here as well as many others have but we need the rest to wake the hell up. Our ships going down and taking us with it, no lifeboats. Katrina should have shown everyone that.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:56 AM
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6. The Republican party looks back to Hooooover for their economic policies.
How many occaisions have you seen a lack of attention and action on some issue and then disaster occurs?

That's what happens when Republicans have held power since the Hoover administration. Economicly this party appears the political legates of Herbert Hoover who did nothing to help people and then the stock market crashed and the great depression occurred.

As for this crew in foreign policy, Nixon's the one.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 09:35 AM
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11. Actually they go back further than Hoover, their policies go back
....to the 19th century and the age of Robber Baron Industrialists and Financiers, only today the politicians have their slime-ball hands in the pot as well:

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Robber baron was a term revived in the 19th century in the United States as a pejorative reference to businessmen and bankers who dominated their respective industries and amassed huge personal fortunes, typically as a direct result of pursuing various allegedly anti-competitive or unfair business practices. The term may now be used in relation to any businessman or banker who is perceived to have used questionable business practices in order to become powerful or wealthy.

The term derives from the medieval German lords who illegally charged exorbitant tolls against ships traversing the Rhine river (see robber baron). There has been some dispute over the term's origin and use. It was popularized by U.S. political and economic commentator Matthew Josephson during The Great Depression in a 1934 book. He attributed its first use to an 1880 anti-monopoly pamphlet in which Kansas farmers applied it to railroad magnates. The informal term captains of industry may sometimes be used to avoid the negative connotations of "robber baron".

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)


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Published on Thursday, January 20, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
The Robber Barons' Party
Let's Bring Tea

by Thom Hartmann

The Robber Barons are back.

They're staging a celebration of their power in Washington, DC, where they help write the majority of legislation and hold captive all but a very few of our nation's legislators. The television networks they own are showing the party in all its pomp and ceremony. The newspapers and magazines they own are telling us what a fine time is being had by all in Washington, DC. The radio stations, networks, and talk show hosts they own are reassuring us that they know what is best, that all will be well, that "freedom is on the march."

Every generation, it is often said, must relearn the lessons of history. This generation is getting a crash course.

Shall we have a government of, by, and for We, the People? Or shall we be governed by a powerful elite made up of the super-rich, multi-national corporations, and well-paid shills who do their bidding?

It seems that the shift from FDR's vision of We the People to Reagan's vision of corporate governance has only happened in the past thirty years - when Reagan, in his first inaugural address, declared war on We the People by saying: "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem."

But it's really a battle that's gone back to 1762, when Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote "The Social Contract," and directly challenged - for the first time in nearly two thousand years - the idea that people must be governed by a powerful father-figure King, Pope, or Feudal Lord.

"Man was born free," Rousseau opened his book with, "and he is everywhere in chains." Those chains, he suggested, were forged by a belief that people's inherent nature was weak and evil, and people were incapable of governing themselves. Rousseau - and, following him, Jefferson, Madison, Washington, Franklin, and others among our nation's Founders - rejected the belief that society would disintegrate without kings, popes, or rule by a rich elite.

But the need for an all-powerful ruling elite was a notion that was strongly ingrained in the mind of the Western World at the time of our founding.

Thomas Hobbes, one of history's most eloquent spokesmen for the Reagan/Bush/Imperial type of worldview, wrote in his 1651 magnum opus "Leviathan," that without a strong and iron-fisted ruler, "in every man is enemy to every man...."

"In such condition," Hobbes added, "there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
Thus, without a powerful father figure ruler, Hobbes suggested, "it may be perceived what manner of life there would be, where there were no common power to fear..."

Liberty, Hobbes believed, was a dangerous thing. It produced misery.

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http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0120-24.htm
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:47 AM
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2. It's what you get when you don't get serious about jailing war...
criminals and dope and gun runners!
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:50 AM
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4. right after they took care of the Kennedy brothers
They were the first casualities of this coup.

Wasn't Daddy running the Intelligence then?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:52 AM
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5. yes yes and yes
I believe he was in dallas on that fateful day too
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:56 AM
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7. But he can't remember WHY he was there.
:eyes: republiCONS suffer from selective memory.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 09:01 AM
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8. And don't forget that Prescott Bush was instrumental in
recruiting Richard Nixon. And that Nixon made quite a name for himself serving on McCarthy's "Un-American Activities" Committee.

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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 09:11 AM
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9. OOOOh that made the skin crawl on my arms!!
We were sooo close to that happening again....
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 09:17 AM
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10. this bfee needs to be exposed for what it is
no friend of us Americans thats for sure.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:08 PM
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12. Hope is high that we can survive the BFEE
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