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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:25 AM Original message |
CNN : Mini-Cars "Unsafe" |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. Probably because the SUV legal defense team is gi-normous |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. that's why, IMO, the onus should be on the drivers of SUV's. I'm a bit different than many Liberals |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. discounting personal repsonsibility is NOT different from most liberals |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
87. That would be a myth |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Exactly, they will be papered to death, and the "reform" of court |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Like all those guys who sued in the Bronco cases for rollovers? |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. I agree. Of course that won't happen - it is the victim's fault, remember? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Sure. Gotta promote that "personal responsibility" |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Hi there, Jeff. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. I try to offend on an equal opportunity basis. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. Absolutely, SUV owners should be forced to spend more for higher insurance |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Actually, I thought SUV owners did pay higher rates for more coverage-- |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. If they do, that's a recent development. |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It was about a year ago or so that I read a reference to insurers giving |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. As I remember it, and I could be wrong, |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. only because of the value of the car |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
92. Full coverage for my TrailBlazer |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
7. Funny how the headline wasn't "GIANT SUV'S DANGEROUS" |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. That's because the IHHS report wasn't about SUV's... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. My solution? Take the big fuckers off the road. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
9. my pc oh so perfect liberal in laws tell me i should have suv for safety |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. The ads tell us that |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. i hear ya. you would not be surprised, i am sure, the number of hummers |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. Bumper sticker for Hummers |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
89. Hummer? That's soooo 2004! Main battle tanks are where it's at |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 01:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
86. They're actually wrong about that. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 07:46 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. i did read about a year ago prone to roll overs they are not |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
106. Full-size sedan beats an SUV for safety... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
12. They did say the Nissan Versa |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
101. That's because it's not a minicar, per IHHS: |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. It also appears you don't get higher gas milage |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
13. Some of these SUVs have cowcatchers on the front. An accident would |
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Grateful for Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. I own a Mini Cooper |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
107. The 2007 Mini is supposed to be four inches longer |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. Ban SUVs.......... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Easy answer, but there are a lot of people who need big vehicles |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. wait a minute. they put others at risk. i am suppose to trash smokers |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Well Done, seabeyond! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. thank you, but not a single anti smoking suv driving "progressive" |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. I never said anything about smokers |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. sin eater for all the problems that can't be blamed on second-hand smoke or mountain climbers. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Self Delete. Sorry I posted to the wrong REPLY. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. i dont have a clue what the hell you are talking about. so i guess you didnt |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Self Delete. Sorry I posted to the wrong REPLY. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. sorry i was snarky. wink. n/t |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. SUVs, of course, are an impractical answer to "need more room" |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. And How About A Minivan, As You Say, Constructed With Weight, Aerodynamics |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
41. I drive my SUV off road |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Uh-huh. (NT) |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Buy a van. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
73. Vans are worse than SUV's |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Okay, buy a bike. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. That's funny... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Don't take my word for it... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 07:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Your Forester *ISN'T* an SUV, except to the Subaru marketing department. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. That's an important distinction... |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
97. My Caravan gets about 27 mpg. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I drive a Toyota Corolla 95% of the time, UNLESS I need to take........ |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I Went The Trailer Route With My Small Car |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I have the same aluminum trailer for my Corolla............. |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Bullshit!!! Minivans do all of that better. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
69. If you own a house you pretty much |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. My minivan seats 8 !! |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
84. Need"? I would give that a generous 4% of the general populous. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Vehicles That Get Less Than, Say, 40 Mi/Gal Are Going To Be Self-Limited |
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San Diego (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
20. Watch this video of Smart Cars being crash tested. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. The 'Smart Car' Is Fairly Safe, From What I Recall. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. My Golf TDI also has a great crash ranting |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
103. Not nearly as small as the ones IHHS is criticizing... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
102. In single-vehicle accidents yes; in multiple-vehicle collisions, no |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. Bingo - the dynamics here are far more complex than most think... |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
25. Sell all new cars completly free of gasoline. Make the new owners |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
40. I drive an SUV and have a spotless driving record |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. but even if you did have an "accident" which i think still exists |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Genuine accidents are very, very rare |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. accidents in and of themselves suggest some type of distractions. |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Drive what you will, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You aren't supposed to look in the mirror if there's a blinding light in it |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. right and i am not suppose to look forward as your raised head lights meet |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I get headlights shining toward my face all the time |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. i handle it well. but that isnt what we were talking about, me turning |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I have a love-hate relationship with my SUV |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. i say enjoy. nothin like spending a lot of money |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. Okay, lets talk about it |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #79 |
98. I live in a suburb and drive on country roads frequently |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. I wear my sunglasses at night, I wear my sunglasses at night. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #75 |
99. Again, there are plenty of vehicles large enough to get light in my face |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Sorry about that but |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Do you have one of these bumper stickers? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. No, I drive a medium size SUV |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Sorry, I had to ask, you did seem to go out of your way to add |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Your lack of bumper height, or penis size, is not MY problem |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Too funny, thanks! |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. Ironic, isn't it? The only thing that makes them unsafe is assholes in large cars |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. So, everyone who drives a large car is automatically an asshole? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
104. Less safe in collisions with Corollas and Civics, too... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. Even worse... They're fuel efficient! |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Considering That Each Of These SUV's That Hit The Road Today |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yet almost all accidents I see involve mostly SUVs. |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
78. Which cars? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
80. Wrong. Giant SUV's unsafe - for everyone who's not in one. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
81. It's been done. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
83. My Scion XB got 4 out of 5. phew. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
85. How would 18 wheel tractor & trailers and fully loaded dump trucks - |
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NV1962 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
88. It's precisely the OTHER way round... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. From the report... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
93. Three issues here--bumper height, cost, and mass. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Thanks for that great, informative post! |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Possibly... |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
109. well, when theyre compared to our Hummer driving idiots |
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