All drunken smokers with no progressive cred- check in here.

[Dr.Phool]

And we'll get to you people who fart in public later.

[xultar]

1. I'm a drunk but I don't smoke. But I don't care if anyone else smokes.

Can I join?

Oh and I'm also a farter of silent but deadly type.

[Dr.Phool]

4. Farting is a good substitute.

[xultar]

23. Kewl. I'm in. Back up or get smoked out!

[MoeHayNow]

138. As Ben Franklin once said,

"Fart proudly."

[YOY]

32. Hey, I'm a smoker who doesn't really drink!

Whaddabout me?

[xultar]

36. Then burping I guess would be a great substitute! Buhwawawawa!

[YOY]

46. Oh darn...I was holding out for projectile vomiting in stressful moments

cue slide trombone...

[theHandpuppet]

151. Me too!

I guess I don't make the grade. :cry:

[Dulcinea]

130. I like to drink, smoke & dance real fast.

Can I join?

[xultar]

153. I feel that makes you our Leader...We bow to you!

But if you break a hip all bets are off on the leadership position.

[radfringe]

2. YO!!!

I'd post more but I'm too drunk and am having a nicotine fit...

(and I think I have gas too)

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Reporting for duty!

I'll enlist Hubby for the farting.

[WI_DEM]

5. I don't smoke, but believe banning it in bars is stupid

people who go to bars know what to expect. I can understand restaurants and places like that but bars? come on!

[ceile]

6. Checking in!

:toast: :smoke:

[pdrichards114]

7. I like to drink and used to smoke. That good enough to check in?

[Dr.Phool]

10. Sure, I quit smoking 8 months ago

And I couldn't care less if someone else does.

[pdrichards114]

14. Same here.

[rman]

8. i'm planning on climbing Mount Everest, get drunk and stoned

and then have someone rescue me.

[Dr.Phool]

12. I'll bring the St. Bernards with the little kegs of brandy.

[rman]

19. Excellent. See, these rescue operations practically invite people

to act irresponsibly. Not my fault, really.

[two gun sid]

21. Do you think you could send that dog over to my house...

with a pack of Newports? I'm too drunk and stoned to drive to the store.

[Dr.Phool]

22. No, this damned dog learned at a young age

That if he knocked your beer over, he got to drink it.

[ProfessorGAC]

41. I'm Not Coming To Get You

You take that risk on your own. Well, if i did come and get you, you'd be taking the risk of having to meet me! Oh the horror!
The Professor

[tnlefty]

9. I'll be brief as I gotta get outside and light up.

4 more hours at least 'til Corona time. :hi:

[seabeyond]

11. what because i am not a drinker, i cant check in .... wink n/t

[NoPasaran]

13. Me!

Headed out to the SUV for a beer run as soon as I finish this cigarette!

[radfringe]

15. now I really don't have any credentials

I just hid all the anti-smoking threads...

they just want me to smoke even more...

[WilliamPitt]

16. Yo

[hughee99]

17. Drink and chew tobacco...

It's certainly no healthier than smoking, but I don't have to listen to people spewing those second hand smoking statistics at me, no one can claim I'm hurting them, and I don't even have to leave my desk, let alone go outside, for a "break". I feel bad for the smokers who have to put up with all of that.

I take it you're referring to the jackass from the Huffington post. I found it interesting that the same person who said this...
"In that one act, they lose all progressive cred with me.
They have surrendered their value system for the cigarette in their hand.
A cigarette most likely branded and marketed by an international conglomerate- the same type of international conglomerate so many of these same people I just described absolutely hate.
A cigarette made by an international conglomerate whose products poison and have killed millions both here and abroad.
Cigarettes made by American corporations who mostly contribute campaign funds to conservative Republicans- the same politicians who stand for everything progressives are against and stand against everything progressives are for."

Also has links to Walmart.com (who's selling his book) and Charles Schwab (where he's on the payroll) on his personal website.

[Bake]

50. OMG, you CHEW???!!! That's just gross ...

See? Even smokers like to have somebody to look down on!

Just kidding; couldn't resist. :rofl:

Bake

[MoeHayNow]

142. It's not so much the chewing

that's gross, it's the spitting.

However, a plastic cup of chew spit (to a very drunk person) looks like it could be Guiness. Get 'em to drink that and hilarity ensues!

Ah...memories!

And really: smoke 'em if ya got 'em, and chew it if ya got it!

[Bake]

155. I tried it once, as a young teenager.

Accidentally swallowed some. That pretty much broke me of the temptation to try it again. LOL!

Bake

[TahitiNut]

18. Could I join if I do neither?

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with what *I* do ... and everything to do with whether I support the liberties of others to do things I may consider stupid ... even when it causes me some discomfort or inconvenience.

People talk about the risk to their health as though this is some HUGE eeeevil. Well, I'm a veteran. As such, I know a little bit about vigorously protesting and opposing stupidity and still putting my life on the line for the sake of the right to be stupid - and it has NOTHING to do with whether that particular exercise in neocolonialism was 'right' or 'wrong.'

For me, being liberal is ALL about sharing the 'costs' of the behavior of others. It's inconvenient. It's uncomfortable. It's even life-threatening. (Give me liberty or give me death!)

[ProfessorGAC]

43. Kill Joy!

You went and had to be serious and logical, didn't ya?
The Professor

[TahitiNut]

59. (grin) Sometimes I find that the most difficult things to articulate ...

... are the things I think are obvious - things I seem to remember learning even before Kindergarten.

Maybe it's somthing in the water? I hear there are (gasp!) carcinogens in our drinking water!

:rofl:

[ProfessorGAC]

107. Um. The #4 Cause of Cancer On Earth Is The Sun

Stupid sun and all that light and heat.
The Professor

[pdrichards114]

129. Ban the Sun!!! Now!

[TahitiNut]

131. That's obviously because the sun smokes.

:dunce:

[sarge43]

93. Have you seen the movie Serenity, TahitNut?

If you have, you remind me of Capt Reynolds after he and the crew had seen the horror on Miranda. "They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people ... better."

If not, you should. You'd like the basic idea.

[TahitiNut]

128. Nope - haven't heard of it, but I just looked in IMDB.

It looks like it might be fun ... and a bit campy. It's apparently written on the canceled TV series "Firefly" (which I've also not seen). I'll check it out when I get a chance.

[sarge43]

135. I wouldn't call it campy.

If you can, start with Firefly, then the film. Serenity can stand on its own, but the series gives a lot of motivation and character background. Plus, the series has some great moments. One episode starts with our hero in the middle of a desert, blue jay nekkid. He's looking off into middle distance. He sighs and says "That went well." What a terrific way to kick off a story.

[rman]

134. excellent movie that. nt

[ieoeja]

132. But you did it for the "sake of the right to be stupid".

Not for the "left". Or so many veterans organizations would have us believe.

[itsmesgd]

20. woo hoo, the party's in here

Is the only way to have "cred" in being a viceless goody goody two shoes (per Adam Ant)?

We not only drink and smoke, but we vote as well. Sometimes we vote drunk and or stoned. So they better include us in their discussions. Damn the tea-totalers.

[lyonn]

148. Ya got that right, we do vote too!

[KG]

24. is there any proof anybody died from second hand flatulence?

other than mine, i mean? :)

[itsmesgd]

26. no, but I shot a blue methane flame outta my ass once

almost scorched my eyebrows off.
But who hasn't lighted a fart?

[Dr.Phool]

29. I almost did.

I have no idea what the wife had for lunch that day.:rofl:

[MoeHayNow]

144. Did she give you a Dutch Oven? n/t

[BoneDaddy]

25. I pick my nose

and put the boogers on my car seat.

[sarge43]

28. Recommend you flick those bad boys back at the

asshole tailgating you. I can guarantee it works and it is progressive.

[BoneDaddy]

30. Thanks Sarge

but it was said in jest...actually as a good liberal I conserve them by eating them, lol.

[sarge43]

35. Yeah ..... well

I guess anything else could be considered littering. I was going to say let the tailgater see you jam your finger in up to the second knuckle. However, he'd probably just think you were George Bush.

[Greybnk48]

47. Another farting, drinking, smoking nosepicker here!

I occasionally burp as well.:blush:

[BoneDaddy]

72. Lol

I make my kids pull my finger too...how horrible am I, lol.

[Batgirl]

27. I don't smoke and am not much of a drinker -- however

I'm guilty of eating too many Little Debbies, and I have been known to make an occasional illegal right turn on red. So hopefully that give me enough cred to hang out with the bad kids.

[MoeHayNow]

141. Did you ever talk out of turn in class?

That should give you the cred you need to hang with the "bad kids."

[sarge43]

31. Can't drink and don't smoke anymore, but

I'm career military which automatically makes me the spawn of Satan and a Republican (yes I know, same-o). May I have a seat at the no progressive cred table?

Oh yeah, I eat meat and once or twice a year shop at Wally World. Does that count?

[comsymp]

37. You are SO in!!!

/says this smoking, drinking, carnivorous, khaki & oxford wearing, middle aged, middle-class Southern WASP male.

[sarge43]

45. Why thank you comsymp.

I always wanted to sit at the kewl table.

I submit posters who make spelling and grammar faux pas should have an honorary pass. God knowth their purity has been questioned.

[comsymp]

57. Well, not so sure about the kewl table

But you're always welcome to ride shotgun in our SUV!

[sarge43]

73. Oh great and I'll throw your empty beer cans and cig butts

all over the verge. No seat belts, right?

[comsymp]

77. SEATBELTS!?! Seatbelts are for ...

... okay, I admit it - we do wear our seatbelts. But we can bring our guns and take potshots at road signs while you're tossing out the trash.

[sarge43]

82. Even better. You all up for a rat shoot at the town dump!?

You can drink beer and I'll woof down on the junk food.

[Dr.Phool]

125. Just so long as Dick Cheney aint invited!

[JacksonWest]

33. Yo!!!

[Bobbie Jo]

34. I Love You, Man!...n/t

[landdaddy]

38. No ETOH

but I drink a lot of NA beer and smoke. Good enough to check in?

[blondeatlast]

39. Don't drink or smoke but I'd rather hang out with you guys.

People who can't laugh at themselves are bad for my health, yanno. :hi:

[sandnsea]

40. Don't drink or smoke -

Wohoo, now I've got all kinds of progressive cred, right?

:rofl:

Okay, whoever that jackass was, he is the definition of 'liberal elite' that makes "joe sixpack" (a term I loathe) run gleefully to the Republican Party.

[Gemini Cat]

42. Drink yes. Smoke yes.

I also cuss.
I eat meat.
I like Velveta.
I use spell check, because I can't spell.
Not sure where a comma goes either.
Does that make me a fucking freeper?

[Mojorabbit]

140. Another smoker and velveeta lover here

and a former skydiver who never had to be rescued. I have always had a thing for bad boys too.

edited because "and" does not contain an f

[The Deacon]

150. I Tried Jumping Out Of A Perfectly Good Airplane Once

The flight before my group was supposed to go up the plane broke. My friend & I took that as a sign and used the money to get plastered instead. (And I still intend on trying it - just as soon as my son hits 21.)

[johnaries]

44. Here! AND I fart in public, too. Silent but deadlies..... nt

[Beausoleil]

48. there are such people

who are considerate smokers, responsible drinkers, and drive SUVs that get good gas milage. Now if I do something dangerously stupid, do not come looking for me!

As the redneck said his final words to his friends: "Hey, y'all, watch this!"

[ChaoticSilly]

49. I smoke

But I only drink maybe once or twice a year. It's ok though, I quit having cred cold turkey. I feel much better now that I am credless. I can fart in public, on elevators even, and not have to worry about anything (well except maybe striking a match). Two years being credless and counting!

:evilgrin:

[Bake]

51. Checking in!

Anybody got a spare ciggie and an extra beer?

Bake

[Lugnut]

84. I'll share.

If you like nice, cold Rolling Rock. :D

[Bake]

101. Thanks! That's two of my favorite kinds of beer!

Cold. And Free!

Bake

[WernhamHogg]

52. Awwww

I'm a smoker, but I can't drink! Can I still join? Please? I occasionally eat with my mouth open, that's gotta count for something!

[sinkingfeeling]

53. Whadda say? I'm a ..cough, cough... drunken smoker who likes to be called liberal.

[mongo]

54. I smoke and drink

but I still have some progressive cred -- can I still join?

I believe in circumcism too (sorry -- that's male genital mutilation to DU)

[The Deacon]

55. I Drink & Smoke

But I also own a SUV - can I still hang out?

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[americanstranger]

64. Or - 'Oh, Cripes! Dad's mad!!'

If you're gonna puke, start your own thread. Second-hand puke is very harmful - and if you puke, you lose all your progressive cred. :)

- as

[ComerPerro]

67. Maybe I should start ten threads a day about how I should be able to puke wherever I want

[americanstranger]

69. Hmm. Humor-impaired, as well.

Lighten up, Francis.

- as

[ComerPerro]

74. sorry if I don't find it funny that these people destroy themselves and are still protected

[americanstranger]

Yo. I PAY for my health care, thank you very much.

Ah, what's the use? Go ahhead and wish people dead.

I'm gonna have a smoke. See ya.

- as

[ComerPerro]

83. but you shouldn't be able to

I sure as hell can't

[americanstranger]

86. Ah, I see.

Because YOU can't pay for health care, anyone YOU say shouldn't be able to either?

Wow. Just... wow.

- as

[ComerPerro]

90. no, its not that I can't pay for it, trust me. I am constantly refused coverage

[MrSlayer]

154. Why are you denied coverage?

And why should smokers have no access to it because you are denied?

[IA_Seth]

91. self-delete

I gotta learn to play a little more nice.

[comsymp]

85. So, how ya feel about Mickey D's?

People who eat high-fat, high-sodium foods? Or drive over the speed limit, or drive while talking on cellphones? Or people who don't practice preventive medicine?

Hey, how 'bout people with AIDS???

[ComerPerro]

88. in a lot of cases, people with AIDS can't get health coverage. But you fucking smokers can

[comsymp]

94. Well, that was *one* of the groups I listed

And in a lot of cases, people with AIDS *can* get coverage. In your perfect world, should they, and the other groups I mentioned above, be denied as well as smokers?

[ComerPerro]

96. they can in some cases if someone sponsors them or if they pay lots and lots of money

you smokers, though, you bitch for having to pay even a few bucks more.

[americanstranger]

104. Jesus. Generalize much?

I pay what I pay, and I don't bitch about it.

You really should avoid painting with such a broad brush.

- as

[ComerPerro]

106. you're right. I've never, ever, heard or seen a smoker bitch about how bad they got it

[americanstranger]

108. First off, you don't even KNOW me.

Never met me. Don't know where I live, what I do, my financial situation, nothing.

But in your eyes, I'm a 'fucking smoker,' and as you said a few posts up, all of us 'fucking smokers' 'bitch' about having to pay 'a few bucks more' for health coverage.

I already mentioned, also a few posts up, that I don't 'bitch' about paying what I pay for health care - and that leaves me out of your group of 'fucking smokers' who 'bitch.'

Are we clear here?

- as

[ComerPerro]

112. oh, I know you. Another cliche. Proud smoker, at the same time a victim of tobacco.

[americanstranger]

115. Man, you're one bitter person.

Bitter, bitter, bitter.

Just sayin'

- as

[comsymp]

105. I was actually thinking about Medicare / Medicaid, but you still haven't

answered my earlier question - what about junk food junkies, those who don't exercise, etc?

[ComerPerro]

109. in a lot of cases, illness related to those habits are not covered.

[comsymp]

117. In a lot of cases, I have to call bullshit.

Find a cite in which insurers refuse to cover someone because they eat excessive fast food (I'll even let you define "excessive") or practice unsafe sex, or talk on cellphones while driving, or only go to the Dr when they're already ill.

[ComerPerro]

120. Prove first that people who have heart attacks or high colesterol

are that way becuase of fast food, and not other genetic reasons beyond their control.


You cannot deny the negative impacts of smoking and secondhand smoke while isisting that all "fatties" deserve to have heart attacks becasue they don't take care of themselves

[comsymp]

123. Huh?

First, the link between high fat / high sodium (fast food) diets and increased risk of coronary disease are already well documented.

Second, I neither deny the negative impacts of smoking NOR insist that all "fatties" deserve to have heart attacks.

Third, you evaded my question... again.

[Beausoleil]

63. So should drinkers, then

especially those who've had liver transplants, esophagus cancer, stomach cancer, or brain damage, etc. And mountain climbers. And anyone who has ever taken any physical risk. Deny them all.
I usually like your posts, CP, but your intolerance is showing here.

[ComerPerro]

66. Lets see, a couple drinks each week vs two packs a day... which is worse...

And I have never seen people so proud of destroying themselves as smokers are.

[ChaoticSilly]

70. You've never seen anybody vote Republican?

[ComerPerro]

71. are you comparing smokers to Republicans?

[ChaoticSilly]

81. No, there's already enough of that going on here on DU.

[Beausoleil]

76. A few cigarettes a week vs. a fifth of Jack

a day. Which is worse? See the trap you put yourself in when you are extremely judgmental? I seen some very proud drinkers who don't even admit that they have a problem even when it affects far more people than they realize, but by god, they will use their health insurance to get that liver transplant, even if they have to get their doctor to lie for them.

[ComerPerro]

78. thats called being an alcholic. And yes, they should be denied coverage as well

[Beausoleil]

87. At least most smokers know they have an addiction

Most alcoholics are in denial, IMO, but still get health coverage.
But where do you draw the line in denying health coverage due to risky behavior? Mountain climbing? Motorcycles? Snake-handling? Trans-fats?
If there were universal health coverage in this country and my smoking did not impact you whatsoever, would you still want to deny coverage?

[ComerPerro]

92. if there were universal health coverage, we would not be having this conversation

[The Deacon]

99. So Why Misplace Your Anger At Insurance Companies

Onto people who never hurt you? That's the second tenent of fascism (scapegoating.)

[ComerPerro]

100. frankly, I am tried of smokers acting like they got it rough, and are persecuted

[The Deacon]

114. Frankly, I'm Tired Of Anti-Smokers Acting Morally Superior

And as though they personally own every square inch of the country. Time for y'all to get over yourselves. You don't smoke. Congratulations - take a halo out of petty cash.

[comsymp]

136. Take a halo out of petty cash

[asthmaticeog]

139. I agree with you on that.

I smoke, and I have NO patience for the whole "we're getting the short end of the stick from the clean lungs nazis" routine. We're not an oppressed minority, we've got a nasty habit.

However, though I agree with you on that point, I'd like for you to consider maybe being a bit less of a total fucking cock.

[Beausoleil]

102. Whew!

n/t

[IA_Seth]

118. The best case for Universal Healthcare I've seen in ages. n/t

[IA_Seth]

75. When's the last time you had fast food?

Drove over the speed limit?

Used REAL (ack?!) butter for cryin out loud. I'm sure you've done something that makes you a little less than perfect, although it must be nice to see yourself that way.

[ComerPerro]

95. bad analogy. Because, I don't know if you are aware of this or not

but if you drive over the speed limit and get caught often enough, you can't get car insurance.

[sarge43]

79. Wow. Did the Church misplace a saint? n/t

[mainegreen]

126. I'm in favor of everyone whos going to die being denied health coverage as well.

:eyes:

[ThomCat]

127. LOL!

That is the best "putting it in perspective" post yet. :toast:

[sinkingfeeling]

143. Yeah, and I'm 58 years-old, have been insured over 35 years and used that

employer insurance exactly twice. I take zero prescription drugs and sure as hell don't get much bang for the $756 a year 'employee contribution' I make to pay for the insurance. I also carry a separate policy for heart attack and cancer excessive costs. The insurance companies love me and doctors are astounded that I'm not pumping 6 or 7 'brand name' drugs into my body.

Go run your own life and leave the rest of us alone.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

147. your attitude makes me want to puke.

disgusting.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

152. You can puke on his tombstone:

[LittleClarkie]

58. Does second hand smoke count?

You know, the stuff I suck in at the pub? The pub with mostly conservatives in it? And I talk to them too. What does THAT do to my cred?

[americanstranger]

62. Right here.

And all you authoritarian a-holes can kiss my butt.

'Live and let live' has such a nice ring to it...

- as

[Corgigal]

65. I smoke but don't drink

Drive an SUV because we have 5 children and 5 dogs. However I don't have to work out of the home, so I actually use less gas then most people do.

I don't get off hating people to make myself feel better. I guess having so many living things depending on you helps you see life in that aspect. Silly so much hate right in the middle of the holiday season. My non smoking oldest daughter and I sponsored a family for Christmas. Single mom with 3 kids and we got those kids want then wanted Santa to bring them. I never wondered if mom was a smoker, drinker, suv driver or drug addict. Damn those liberal traits...

[The Deacon]

80. Funny

All those folks I helped in Katrina (and all the other disasters before)? Never once thought to ask them if they smoked or drank - figured it was their own fucking business.

[MrCoffee]

68. all right ya bastids...who is gonna bum me one?

[The Deacon]

89. Here

Sorry it's an ultra-light generic - I'm paying so much extra for health insurance it's all I can afford.

[MrCoffee]

98. at least it's not menthol...

then we'd all know you'd lost all your progressive cred.

[Corgigal]

103. Get out

Who knew? I bought a carton of Virginia Slims because I had a coupon. OH, wait..I'm a veteran so that should buy me some cred points. Love the troops and all that.

[sarge43]

122. Veterans get immediate n-p cred.

Remember during basic when we were brained washed into zombie fascists?

[Beausoleil]

145. Sir, yes, sir!

n/t

[sarge43]

158. That's ma'am to you, space cadet and smoke 'em if you got 'em. n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

137. Hey now!

:D

[achtung_circus]

97. I don't care what you do with it,

just as long as you're not borrowing it. Serielsly, I don't want it back.

[MrCoffee]

113. whoa...

that's my line! lol. GMTA, eh?

[achtung_circus]

119. We do so.

Eh.

[Beausoleil]

110. OK, that's it

I'm lighting up. This has been way too stressful. See you in a few.

[Bonhomme Richard]

111. I smoke, and drink ,and drive a SUV, and................

eat meat (I especially love bacon), and love sex, and used to hunt (gave it up for the camera) and work for myself, and do what I say I'm going to do, and I'm never late, play in a band, and sail, and want a level playing field for everyone.
I guess I don't know what I am but in the meantime I'll just keep calling myself a liberal.

[americanstranger]

121. Wow! Are you me or something?

You pretty much described me, except for the sailing part.

I call myself a liberal, too. Although some would want to strip us of that name because of our habits.

Go figure. Want a smoke?

- as

[NoBushSpokenHere]

116. I smoke heavily and dirnk in moderation...

I am a card carrying member of the Liberal Democratic Party - might not have progressive credentials but smart enough to understand liberal means tolerance of others - not sure why some construe liberal to mean the right to rip my own cigarette from my own mouth.

And, yes, I misspelled drink on purpose to add some humour to your day :)

[Beausoleil]

124. If I have no prog cred

can I still vote?

[Chomp]

133. Sums me up perfectly....nt

[WritersBlock]

146. Damn. I quit smoking. But I'll do my part & just drink more to make up for it!

Still, though, a drink's not near as good without a cigarette.

[mmonk]

149. Somebody call me?

[Lilith Velkor]

156. I drink, smoke, eat meat AND fart in public but I don't drive

Overall, my contribution to global warming, pollution etc. is still less than that of the average progressive fart-sniffer so neener neener neeeenerr.

[Recursion]

157. I dip

But rarely at the same time that I'm drinking (yuck)

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

159. I'm going to lock this.

Do not post messages about bodily functions.

Best,
wakemeupwhenitsover
DU Moderator