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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:38 PM
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Poll question: Did the White House stage the obvious Cindy Sheehan assault?
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 12:44 PM by shance
The media knew she was coming.

Mike Wright and other "security" was watching her every move before they arrested her.

Mike Wright and others made a pointed effort to call attention to her removal. They shouted and shoved as if they had some dangerous 250 pound thug in their grasp.

Isn't it amazing how frightened George Bush and Dick Cheney and all the other wealthy white male Neocon boys are of a mother of a dead soldier?

To me it's another day enduring the Bush Regime.

Do you agree or disagree?

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:40 PM
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1. Honestly, I am not sure - because it makes them look really bad
If they had asked her to zip up her jacket, or even just kicked her out, well...it would be lame but not totally fascist. But arresting her? I don't think they planned it. The arrest makes them look awful, particularly in light of the Repub wife who was escorted out but not arrested.

:shrug:
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:48 PM
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3. To me, that is the clue. They planned to have a scene with Cindy Sheehan.
However, I agree with you it will back fire on the Administration.

WHat is amazing is how the Administration is frightened of everyone, and how they cowardly have everyone else fight their fights for them.

They pay off others to do their dirty work but everyone knows who the instigator is. Just like in this scenario.
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:50 PM
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4. A great launch for a senatorial campaign if you ask me
Feinstein may have the bankroll, but you can't buy publicity like this...
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:52 PM
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6. Feinstein also has not earned the trust and respect of her constituents.
Cindy Sheehan would be a leader. She would listen to her constituents.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:41 PM
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2. Yes but
Methinks this one will backfire as badly as Social Security "reform" and "Mission Accomplished".

Cindy's just been handed more ammunition.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:51 PM
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5. OK.
follow me for a moment.

Cindy Sheehan was not told that the shirt was against dress code or asked to cover it up.

From her letter:

"I had just sat down and I was warm from climbing 3 flights of stairs back up from the bathroom so I unzipped my jacket. I turned to the right to take my left arm out, when the same officer saw my shirt and yelled; "Protester." He then ran over to me, hauled me out of my seat and roughly (with my hands behind my back) shoved me up the stairs. I said something like "I'm going, do you have to be so rough?" By the way, his name is Mike Weight.

The officer ran with me to the elevators yelling at everyone to move out of the way. When we got to the elevators, he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car. On the way out, someone behind me said, "That's Cindy Sheehan." At which point the officer who arrested me said: "Take these steps slowly." I said, "You didn't care about being careful when you were dragging me up the other steps." He said, "That's because you were protesting." Wow, I get hauled out of the People's House because I was, "Protesting."


"I was never told that I couldn't wear that shirt into the Congress. I was never asked to take it off or zip my jacket back up. If I had been asked to do any of those things...I would have, and written about the suppression of my freedom of speech later. I was immediately, and roughly (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it) hauled off and arrested for "unlawful conduct.""

By the way, Ms. Sheehan wasn't the only person removed from the house, although the second woman seems to have been removed in a desire to exhibit "fairness." She was not, however, manhandled...and she was close to Laura Bush.

Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young of Indian Shores, said she was ejected from the House gallery during Tuesday night's State of the Union address because she was wearing a T-shirt that said "Support the Troops - Defending Our Freedom."

Young said she was sitting in the gallery's front row, about six seats from first lady Laura Bush, when she was approached by someone from the Capitol Police or sergeant-at-arms office who told her she needed to leave the gallery.

She reluctantly agreed but argued with several officers in the hallway outside the House chamber.

"They said I was protesting," she said in a telephone interview late Tuesday. "I said, "Read my shirt, it is not a protest.' They said, "We consider that a protest.' I said, "Then you are an idiot."'

She said she was so angry that "I got real colorful with them."

They told her she was being treated the same as Cindy Sheehan, an antiwar protester who was ejected before the speech Tuesday night for wearing a T-shirt with an antiwar slogan and refusing to cover it up.

Young, 50, said her shirt was not a protest but a message of support for U.S. soldiers and Marines fighting for their country. She often wears the T-shirts when visiting her husband at the Capitol and during her visits to see the wounded at military hospitals.

Sgt. Kimberly Schneider of the Capitol Police could not provide details about the incident but said, "She was not ejected from the gallery. She did leave on her own."

Young's husband, a Republican who chairs the House appropriations subcommittee on defense, was unaware she was removed until after the speech. He said he was furious about the incident.

"I just called for the chief of police and asked him to get his little tail over here," Rep. Young said late Tuesday. "This is not acceptable."

Beverly Young said, "Wait until the president finds out."

(It pays to be a Bush toady.)

This law is not part of the constitution. It is a part of the Patriot Act, and is meant to criminalize all dissent. It is anti-democratic, and an anathema to all the principles of freedom.

The fact that there seems to be more than a few who support these actions bothers me. A lot. The patriot act has put in place the legal infrastructure for fascism. I think Cindy Sheehan was arrested to try the law.

If they can get away with it, look for a lot more freedoms to disappear.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:12 PM
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11. Can I send your most eloquent post out in an e-mail?
I really liked what you said and think it may give a lot of people I know something to think about.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:54 PM
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7. No
I don't think at the time they knew she was going to wear that shirt had they known she wouldnt have made it.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:56 PM
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9. She hardly had her jacket off before they were removing her!
We already knew she was going to be there.

The Bush Administration used her as an example to show how they bully and intimidate those, namely women, who oppose their policies.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 12:55 PM
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8. These are Not Really the Only Options
Given the type of leadership Bush has exercized and the mood he has created, it was probably inevitable that Sheehan would be asked to leave. But it's not clear to me that Bush or anyone close to him even knew about it beforehand.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:07 PM
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10. Of course they knew of it!
And bushit was told, i am sure..that she WILL NOT be allowed to stay...whatever it takes! So they took care of it..got her out and held her until it was over! Take no chances! But they don't think..they just do not think..doesnt matter if it is war...or a war protestor...just remove the "problem" or possible problem..whatever it is...with immediate force...consequenses? Nope..they just do not think! But hey...now they have...as they say in the south "shown their asses" once again...and there will be...most definitely be ..consequenses for those actions!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:44 PM
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12. Absolutely MP**
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 01:45 PM by shance
That is the standard mode of operation.
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