Who gives a good damn about the First GOP woman's right leg?

[lonestarnot]

[BlueStorm]

1. Yeah people get cancer all the time...

So what's so different about Laura?

The Iraq war is still going on... oh yeah they don't want to talk about that!!!

Laura's leg is a much better and HOT topic. Sooooooo hooooooooottttt!!!

:sarcasm:

[everythingsxen]

4. Yeah, I bet she got cancer just to cover up news about Iraq!!111

Those crafty GOP strategerists!!1111 :wtf: :eyes:

See my reply below.

[everythingsxen]

2. So you are telling me that..

if it were back in the 90s, and it were Hillary Clinton they were talking about, there wouldn't be 5000 threads already going about how they hope she is feeling ok and to get well soon?

Gimme a fucking break. You don't care because you hate Bush, so by extension you hate everyone related to him and in any sort of familiar circle to him. You might say that it isn't news worthy because it's just a little thing and so minor that it is essentially trivial, however Laura Bush just like any other First Lady or any other celebrity for that matter, is something a large portion of people seem to care about.

Ask yourself this:

If it was Hillary, Tipper Gore (if the election had not been stolen), or Teresa Heinz-Kerry (if he had won?) would you post this?

[niyad]

5. I don't give a flying fig about this indifferent, unethical, murderer. how about that? she has

demonstrated that she hasn't the least bit of compassion, empathy or caring for the suffering and devastation her husband and cronies are creating, so, NO, I don't give a DAMn about her insignificant little skin mole. that thing was removed weeks ago, and it doesn't take that long to do a biopsy, give me a break. the ONLY reason the information is being given now is to distract attention from der chimpenfuhrer's determination to kill still more people.

[everythingsxen]

8. Ah yes of course..

So because you perceive that she is evil then you should have no compassion for her. So the best way to defeat your enemies is, in your point of view, to be just like them.

Whether or not it is being used as a distraction I cannot say, however I think you are being entirely too reactionary and partisan.

Tell me, if everyone who opposes Bush and the GOP and all they stand for show them no mercy, no compassion, are sadistic, capricious and cruel to them as they are, if we cross every line they cross in the quest to get "them"... at what point do we stop being "us" and become someone else's "them"?

Hopefully my words are not falling on deaf ears, however I find it generally impossible to have an actual conversation with extreme partisans of any stripe about extending compassion and humanity to everyone.

When you wish illness and suffering upon your enemies and then criticize your enemies for wishing illness and suffering upon you what does that make you?

[niyad]

11. get over yourself, and quit trying to put words in my mouth. NOWHERE did I say I wished them

suffering, so don't even TRY that BS. I simply said, I DON"T Care, and see absolutely NO reason to care for these indifferent, murderous thugs.

I DO, however, wish them absolutely EVERYTHING they deserve.

I think you need to go back to freeperville, or at least take a comprehension course, so you don't read things that aren't there. nice try, though.

[everythingsxen]

21. I am sorry for the confusion and for you lack of understanding

when I said:

When you wish illness and suffering upon your enemies and then criticize your enemies for wishing illness and suffering upon you what does that make you?

I meant it in a generic sense, not that you specifically had said that.

What I find so ironic about your post is that you tell me that I need to learn to comprehend (and that I am a freeper - twice in one thread!) and that I read things that are not there. You also say that you wish no ill upon them and then a mere sentence later.....

get over yourself, and quit trying to put words in my mouth. NOWHERE did I say I wished them suffering, so don't even TRY that BS. I simply said, I DON"T Care, and see absolutely NO reason to care for these indifferent, murderous thugs.

I DO, however, wish them absolutely EVERYTHING they deserve.

While you do not explicitly wish ill upon them, them vitriol you have unloaded in a mere few posts in this thread alone certainly seems to indicate that what you think they deserve would be no doubt unpleasant. And from a strictly legal standpoint, assuming they were tried at the Hague and found guilty of war-crimes and assuming they were sentenced to death, in a purely technical sense, that would be wishing ill upon them.

[niyad]

39. I repeat, quit trying to put words in my mouth. when I say, I wish them everything they

deserve, YOU do not have the right to ASSUME I wish them harm. I leave that up to the universe, with no quibbling. I despise them thoroughly for their venality, their hatred, their arrogance, their cold-blooded lack of empathy or understanding. but I am not in a position to know whether they merit anything good or not. interesting that you would automatically assume I wished them harm. tells a lot about YOUR state of mind, doesn't it?

so, do, please, try again. and if you didn't mean me specifically, then you should not have addressed that particular point to ME.

I don't have any problems with comprehension, but you evidently do.

[Dunedain]

38. A mirror. n/t

[lonestarnot]

6. I said who gives a good damn about the first GOP woman's right leg.

No, I'm not saying any of what you said. None of it. As I wouldn't give a rat's ass to hear about that kid killer biatch'es right leg, tit or ear.

[everythingsxen]

15. Is that just sort of a standardized form letter reply?

I didn't say you said anything, which kind of illustrates that you either did not read it, or assumed that I was putting words in your mouth. Although I did say you hate Bush, which pretty much everyone on this site does. Myself included. However I am able to seperate hating Bush for all that he does from having a modicum of human compassion for his wife having skin cancer. As far as I know, Laura does not go into the war room and order bombing runs or attacks. While she may be complicit in some crimes, I honestly doubt she is responsible for all of Bushes policy decisions and actions over the last few years.

Hell, I would even feel compassion for Bush himself if he had some horrible disease (aside from the terminal stupidity he seems to suffer from); hate begets hate. A lot of people talk a good game on this site about peace and love and compassion and harmony. Few are willing to even take a fraction away from their venemous hatred of all things Bush to say "Skin cancer is bad and I hope she is ok, not that I approve of Bush, but because I am a human being and feel compassion for other human beings."

[lonestarnot]

33. Never! Skin cancer is bad but the bitch can rot for loss of my love for her.

[niyad]

7. remind me again of just how much consideration was shown by the reich wing about senator johnson's

serious health condition? would you like to go back and reread some of the posts from freeperville, etc? until then, please don't tell us how horrid we are for demonstrating no concern for something that ISN"T life-threatening.

[everythingsxen]

9. Of course

Because the "enemy" is cruel, we must be cruel as well. That is how to defeat the enemy, by becoming them.

[Seeking Serenity]

12. Thank you for being a voice of reason.

Don't become that which you hate.

[lonestarnot]

13. No, I'm not cruel. I just don't give a crap about the stink'n biatch.

[niyad]

16. BS BSBS BS BS--NOT caring is NOT being cruel, so don't even try that nonsense. since you clearly

have no idea, or refuse to learn, exactly what the reich was saying about senator johnson, literally dancing on his grave, don't EVEN try to compare their commentary to our supreme indifference.

you really do have to try harder, or go back to freeperville.

[everythingsxen]

19. Cool

I love being accused of being a freeper for saying "Hey don't adopt the tactics of the people you say you are fighting against"

It makes me laugh. But not one of those happy laughs. More like one of those sad laughs.

So you are really trying to make the case that indifference is saying things like "I just don't give a fuck about that bitch"?

Indifference would be not saying anything. That you had to go through the time and trouble to say to the world how much you don't care about someone would seem to indicate that there is more than mere indifference.

If you were a homeless man and someone walked past you as you begged him for help and he looked at you and said "I don't care about you, you fucking bum!" and another man walked by and said nothing and didn't look at you, which is cruel and which is indifferent?

And yes I am quite aware of what the jackasses on the right said about Senator Johnson. Again, why does what the freepers et.al. say make a difference in what we say?

[niyad]

20. what part of "I don't give a F***" " do you NOT understand? please go get a dictionary, before you

waste anymore bandwidth. I DON"T GIVE A F*** is just that, total, complete indifference.

on the other hand, if none of us said anything, then how would you have a chance to express your moral superiority? you don't get it both ways, dearie. so figure out what it is you want--better yet, go to freeperville, where your inability to understand basic english won't be so noticeable.

[everythingsxen]

28. I understand every part of it, you apparently do not however

as you tell me for a third time that I need to be a freeper. Also, Pot before you accuse me of being a black Kettle when it come to English, you may want to take a refresher course on the use of capitalization, grammar and punctuation before you start handing out those English degrees.

I have not said that I am morally superior. If you feel that my position is morally superior to your own, that is an issue you will have to deal with.

As for checking a dictionary...

According to various urban dictionaries "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK" means "I don't care" or "I couldn't care less".

So you are saying you do not care, which as I have pointed out and you accuse me of having a moral agenda for, is not the case, since if you were truly indifferent, you would say nothing.

[LittleClarkie]

36. Actually, most of them were pretty cool about it. And we were pretty cool

about the Republican Senator with Leukemia.

Not to mention I cried watching Nancy's children having to pry her off of Ron's casket, and I really didn't like the woman.

Being human transends politics.

[BlueStorm]

17. Why would I care about someone who, a long time back

killed someone with her vehicle and pretty much got away with it? How can I have pity for a woman who stands by her mass-murdering, crack ass smoking, smirking, drunk bastard, dark entity of a chimp?

The ladies that you listed above have more compassion and principles than anyone in the Bush family so please don't tell me who I should or shouldn't have compassion for.

BTW, I don't wish cancer or any other disease on anyone for that matter.

Blue

[Riddler]

18. I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for any tragedy that befalls any one of them.

[BlueStorm]

22. There are certain people that you can have compassion for

and some that you don't. There are people deserving of sympathy. The Bush family isn't one of them.

Blue

[enuffs_enuffs]

26. Sure hoss...

Couldn't be a distraction from WH woes... could it. If they are going to be cynical in news presentation... about everything... even pickles tragedy... which all of it btw makes me wanna :puke: , they should expect the same.

btw... welcome to interesting times...

[rebel with a cause]

27. You've got to be kidding.

If it had been during the Clinton administration and Hillary had her leg removed from cancer, the right winger would be all over the media accusing her of cutting off her leg to get attention off of something they were accusing Bill of. There would have been very little good, much less sympathetic, coverage of it.

The problem also is that this is a story, but not as big of a one as they are making it. Also, celebrity news is way out of hand these days, and it is all to keep our minds off what is going on in the world.

[everythingsxen]

29. I agree with you entirely about the overabundance of celebrity news

and as for whether it is conscious misdirection and distraction or simply giving the poles the bread and circuses they desire, I cannot say with certainty. I have not seen an overwhelming amount of coverage on this story and had the news on for most of the day, flipping between MSNBC, CNN and Fox. It was mentioned every hour, along with the same other regurgitated stories that are played every hour, but saying that it is news simply for distraction is a bit disingenuous (not that I am saying you said that rebel, others have said it) as it is news just like everything else on the MSM. I am simply not ascribing criminal intent behind the story, at least no more than the intent behind every other news story.

I do agree with you that if it were Hillary, the right wing would be all over it. Most of them would no doubt be saying "How is this news" and "Who gives a fuck about that bitch". Other RW would be even more vitriolic in their attacks and I am quite sure far worse than what has been said thus far in this thread. As I have been saying since the beginning of this thread though is that simply because the RW does it to the LW, it does not make it ok to do it to the RW in return. If an action is wrong and morally reprehensible when one side does it, how can it be right and morally justified when the other side does it?

[rebel with a cause]

30. I seldom watch the news, except for the Daily show.

:blush: My local news coverage is from a tri-state area of Southern Illinois, Kentucky and Missouri. My nerves won't take it. B-)

I get my news from the inter-net, and everywhere I have looked the last two days the story about laura's leg has been there.
And I agree that two wrongs don't make a right and I do not wish her bad, but just like she doesn't care about others, I don't really care about her. I don't say I am right about that. It is just how it is. I have too many things and too many people that I do care about. I just don't think I have any empathy left over for her and those like her. They have made me hard.

talking about Jon Stewart, he is going after this Bill Crystal. He will probably kiss his butt after commercial.

[WI_DEM]

3. first, I'm glad she is ok, but she could have done some good

like Betty Ford did when she went public with her breast cancer in 1975.

[goclark]

10. I agree

If caught early it is treatable I believe.

Why wouldn't she set an example.

Oops, she's a Bush, they don't have "values."

[Uncle Joe]

14. I wouldn't wish cancer on anybody, one good thing for Laura,

she can be comforted in knowing, she has unlimited health insurance, too bad 40+ million Americans don't have that option.

[Reterr]

25. A very nice post :)!

[seabeyond]

23. i know i dont have to be ugly about it. hope she heals fine n/t

[Reterr]

24. Why be so nasty about it?

:shrug:
Can't you not give a damn without shouting it from roof-tops and being spiteful about it?
I would be happy to see her worthless husband behind bars after trial/impeachment but whats the point in being vicious about her cancer? Its intellectally dishonest to say, you merely don't care.

The tone you use shows active ill-will.

[LittleClarkie]

31. It would make the news even if it were a Democratic first lady

She's the first lady. And it's news. So turn it off already if you're not interested.

[Danger Mouse]

32. The same people...

...who care about TomKat. And Brangelina. And Britney Spears. And K-Fed.

[tyedyeto]

34. I don't except for the fact that if I get cancer on my right leg.........

who's going to pay for it?

Or will it get to the point of no return because I have NO health insurance so it will metastisise(sp?) and the cancer will spread?

I do have a couple of questionable spots on my body but will not seek medical care since I have no insurance and can't afford to seek medical attention. Our 'First Lady' has a doctor that takes swift care of such spots and it's breaking news. Not all of us can afford such good medical care.

Does she care????? No way!!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Not me!

[Catherine Vincent]

37. Her family?

It's news because she is the so called First Lady.