Tara Conner, "Miss Implants" USA, and Donald Trump, "Mr Sorry" USA, are living proof

[mtnsnake]

that implants aren't always a cure for someone's personal insecurities, and that all the money in the world will NOT buy you happiness.

You see it all the time....overly rich people like Trump who are just MISERABLE.

What a crock this whole Miss Implants USA thing is where Tara Conner proved how foolish and retarded that beauty pageants STILL are and always have been.

And to think that when Trump gave his well-staged "second chance" to Tara, that he blamed the Big Apple for her woes instead of Tara Conner, herself. "Tara is a good person" said Trump. What a fucking joke.

No one gives two shits about Miss USA or these demeaning beauty pageants anymore. This whole thing is no accident. After the Big Apple supposedly corrupted the small-town Kentuckian winner of the pageant (yeah right), it's become a well choreographed stunt by the producers of beauty pageants and by Donald Trump to bring much desired attention to themselves for sake of personal gain and greed.

Most people wouldn't have even known that another demeaning beauty pageant had even taken place, had it not been for all this "negative" publicity afterward, publicity that's geared to revitalize worthless beauty pageants and give Donald Trump a boost in his never ending quest for more attention. Trump is a world class dork. Neither he or Tara Conner represent anything real in this country, only the make believe.

[Beelzebud]

1. You know what surprised me most about this whole issue?

I was just shocked to learn that they still have the Miss America Pageant!

[Chiyo-chichi]

19. It's not even the Miss America pageant.

Miss USA is a separate pageant all together. The winner of Miss USA goes on to compete in the Miss Universe pageant.

The current Miss America is Jennifer Berrry, but her term is near its end. The Miss America pageant will be held Jan. 29 in Las Vegas.

Not that I'm paying any attention, or anything.

[cool user name]

2. Gawwwwwd ... not another Tara thread.

Listen, the girl made a mistake. We all do. Trump maybe an asshole but he was right to give her a second chance.

This shouldn't even be fucking news. I'm tired of her already.

Unless she showed up at my door ... I wouldn't be so tired. :evilgrin: I would offer my assistance in anyway, shape or form. ;)

[mtnsnake]

3. Sorry, I haven't been around much the last day or so

and didn't have time to check.

[cool user name]

5. Nothing against you, mtnsnake.

Sorry I came off all snarky.

[Ellis Wyatt]

4. why would you think that Trump is unhappy?

You seem to be making a baseless assumption. Even when he lost billiosn of dollars, was penniless, and his marriage was falling apart, he never came across as "miserable".

Sure, he's an egomaniac, and pretty pathetic, but there's no reason to say he's proof that money doesn't buy happiness.

[mtnsnake]

6. I didn't say he's "unhappy". I said he's proof money won't buy you happiness

How do you know he's happy, BTW? Because he's so rich?

From what I've seen, the guy is an attention-seeking, world class dipshit who looks miserable, but if you think differently about Trump, knock yourself out.

[Ellis Wyatt]

10. how is he proof?

He's not happy because he's rich. I don't know why he's happy, but he always seems to be in good spirits, even when he was bankrupt. His children seem well adjusted, so that's a sign that he's not some miser. He's not been arrested for drinking or violence, nor have their been any rumors of the above. He's never been in the press for saying some hate-filled or insensitive comment. Those are bits of evidence that would point me to say that he's generally a happy guy.

You said he's some proof that money doesn't buy happiness. What proof. What has he ever done or said that leads you to believe he's unhappy? Is it just that he's an egomaniac and completely obsessed with himself? While true, that would lead me to believe that he's overly, obnoxiously happy. Moreso, that type of happiness is solely the cause of him making money and being successful.

If he's proof that money doesn't buy happiness, we'll he's got money. So is he not happy, or was he happy before and didn't need his money to buy his happiness?

You made a statement, I'm just trying to understand how you arrived at that conclusion.

[mtnsnake]

13. Maybe I used the wrong guy to establish my claim that money doesn't buy happiness

If so, I apologize. Just the same, I've seen and known enough people who are overly rich to know that in general that the old saying is spot on.

BTW, the reason I say Trump is living proof that money won't buy you happiness is because there is no amount of money he has spent so far that's bought the one thing he'd love to buy: the freedom from being America's #1 deuchebag. I think if he could buy that he'd be truly happy.

[Ellis Wyatt]

20. money doesn't buy happiness

While that may be true, I think many people seem to misread the statement that "money brings unhappiness", which is very pessimistic, and I think incorrect.

Money doesn't make a miserable person content with their life, but I know that if I had more money than I have now, I would be happier because I do more enjoyable things with the people I love.

[InvisibleTouch]

17. Plus he hates * He can't be all bad. :) n/t

[zbdent]

7. I agree ... my brother funded implants for my sister-in-law last year

and now she's pretty much divorcing him ... btw, they're right-wingers ... whodathunkit?

[mtnsnake]

8. Question:

Is he the one who "pushed" the idea of implants on her, and is she divorcing him because he talked her into the implants and they didn't bring her the fulfillment that both of them thought they would?

[zbdent]

11. Nope ... this was her idea ...

and as I'm finding out, they were arguing the day before their wedding ... just over 15 years ago ... oh, and by the way, she tried to win Lasik surgery by posing in her underwear for a contest sponsored by a local radio station ... as I understand it, that was her choice, too ...

[mtnsnake]

14. Well, please congratulate your brother for me

for getting freed of Miss Insecurity, USA. :)

[Morgana LaFey]

23. Yeah, let's all pile on Tara Conners for her insecurity with NO

mention whatsoever of the thoroughly sexist culture which creates and then cynically exploits that insecurity as part and parcel of its consumerism and entire economic system.

Yep, she's just a stupid and flawed human being for falling for it. Pretty worthless, eh?

[mtnsnake]

24. You could do the feminist cause more good by concentrating on how sexist

and demeaning these dumb beauty pageants are to begin with, ALONG with blaming it on the other reasons that you chose to blame it on.

[Morgana LaFey]

25. Uh, don't look now,

brainiac, but that was basically my point, beauty pageant being just an extension of the overall culture.

[mtnsnake]

29. Way to cover for yourself

Now I remember you. You know everything there is to know and you're always right, too.

Uh, don't look now, brainiac,

Wow, you're real clever (snicker).

[Quantess]

27. No. She's just sees a chance to cash in.

She even went so far as to get huge fake boobs to reach her goal, so obviously there is some incentive. I sort of wish the judges would discourage the implants....otherwise, the contest should just be called Ms. Porn Model USA.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

9. Tee-Hee

Reichwingers with implants, probably all high on Jesus too and now, she says fuck you sucker... Oh the irony. Got my sardonic chuckle for the day though.

[Javaman]

12. Yeah, and shows like American Idol is so much better for us!!!

I have no problem with "talent" contests, but the reality was stated by Simon himself, "it's about who is the best!" Not who has the most talent.

And there is the damning statement on our civilization. Once upon a time it was about who had the most talent, who was the brightest, who was the best. Not anymore, it's about who whines the most, who threatens to sue the most, and who sucks up to whom ever the most.

I bet you any amount that moron trump is/will be schtuping this woman soon, that is if he already isn't.

[plcdude]

15. I wonder what Vanessa Williams

thinks of all this? Just asking

[mtnsnake]

16. No kidding, & to think she lost her title for something that happened previous to it

At least her physical assets were real.

[TlalocW]

18. A possible reason for Trump's behavior

If what's-her-name is going into rehab, chances are that part of it will be AA, and part of AA is owning up, taking responsibility, and making restitution, so whatever AA she goes to may (with the prodding from the Donald) urge her to abdicate her crown. That way, Donald comes out of the whole mess looking saintly.

In any event, AA only has around a 5% success rate so not much good will come out of it anyway.

TlalocW

[ecstatic]

21. Is that really the AA success rate?

If it's only 5% successful, why do so many people talk about it?

[TlalocW]

22. Well, take this with a grain of salt

But Penn and Teller looked at groups like AA in an episode of, "Bullshit!" where you have to devote yourself to a higher cause other than yourself (basically God, whether AA admits it or not) and then looked at other organizations who don't go all religious over you and advocate the use of a drug that can help cut your alcohol cravings (which AA is totally against) and the only thing they could find on AA's success rate was something from the early 1990s which showed that eventually only 5% of the people who go through AA stay off of the sauce, which is what it is if you just try to stop by yourself without any help from anyone else (at least according to P&T).

AA doesn't publish its success rate; it doesn't do any internal polling to see if what they do works, etc. If they had a great success rate, they would be waving it in front of everyone's faces, but as it is, they don't want to lose their various forms of government funding and want to keep evangelizing.

P&T's main beef with them was that groups like AA make it sound like they're scientific - they've got these 12 steps, and if you follow them, you reach this goal. Some of those steps include admitting you're a weakling and can't succeed without a higher power, etc., and the steps have remained the same since the 1930s when they were first developed by the two alkies who eventually went on to found AA.

TlalocW

[LoZoccolo]

26. Is it proven that she had implants?

I know this girl who looks like she has them, but they're real, so you can't tell just by looking.

[LostInAnomie]

28. I personally find the whole pageant process insulting to my intelligence.

It is all about setting up a false ideal woman. Not only do they have to be aspiring "scholars", paragons of personal, moral, and sexual virtue, "talented", but they also have to wrap that all up in a smoking hot body that is graded on breasts, abdomen, thighs, and ass. These aren't real women, they are caricatures. Is it really that hard for the public to believe that these women might have actual human drives and some of them might not be from the 1950s? As long as she can show up and smile at the parades and boat shows, who gives a shit?

Truth be told, before this week how many people in the USA could have even told you who the hell Miss USA was?