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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:18 PM
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Are there any looney liberals on this board?
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 01:28 PM by BushOut06
Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you that today, even this night, before the rooster crows twice, you will deny Me three times.”

Now as Peter was below in the courtyard, one of the servant girls of the high priest came. And when she saw Peter warming himself, she looked at him and said, “You also were with Jesus of Nazareth.” But he denied it, saying, “I neither know nor understand what you are saying.” And he went out on the porch, and a rooster crowed. And the servant girl saw him again, and began to say to those who stood by, “This is one of them.” But he denied it again. And a little later those who stood by said to Peter again, “Surely you are one of them; for you are a Galilean, and your speech shows it.” Then he began to curse and swear, “I do not know this Man of whom you speak!” A second time the rooster crowed. Then Peter called to mind the word that Jesus had said to him, “Before the rooster crows twice, you will deny Me three times.” And when he thought about it, he wept.
- Mark 14:30,66-72

I've often wondered why so many people are afraid of the word liberal. Bush Sr used it quite effectively to demonize Dukakis, and since then, it seems that many Democrats have tried everything in their power to distance themselves from that word. Now, the GOP has gone one step futher, and begun using the phrase "extreme left". And once again, you have Dems scurrying to reach for that "middle ground" to prove that they aren't extreme. After all, who wants to be identified as an extremist? I mean, if Bush and his neocons represent the extreme right, we surely don't want to be their leftist counterparts, do we?

Hogwash. I'm tired of letting them dictate what I am. If being against illegal wiretaps is extremists, then I guess I am. If being for free speech - even in the Capitol - is extremists, then that's what I am. If I believe that we shouldn't attack countries that don't pose an immediate threat to us (and not some made up threat either), then I guess that's an extremist position, and I'm proud. If thinking that the richest 1% of this country shouldn't receive the majority of tax cuts while the poorest struggle to fed themselves is an extreme viewpoint, then I'm guilty. If believing that Bush and his cohorts should be impeached for gross crimes against the Constitution and war crimes is a looney position, then I guess I'm looney as a fucking bird! And I guess I must have just missed the memo from the KKK, Aryan Nations, and National Alliance that declared that racism was dead and gone in this country. Silly me.

I agree with Michael Moore. I'm proud to be a liberal, if this is what being a liberal means. I'm not going to get upset the next time some neocon hurls that word at me, as if it's some sort of horrible slur. It seems to me that we have too many Peters up in Congress.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:32 PM
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1. self-kick n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:36 PM
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2. I have a mental illness
But that does not make me crazy,
I am liberal but that does not make me invalid as a participant in power,that shapes the society of people I find myself among and relating to.
I am creative but that does not mean my words should not be heard because of their colors or expression,
I am emotional,that does not mean I cannot think
I can think but that does not mean I cannot feel..
I am different but that does not mean I am to be scapegoated ,shunned and that I can't feel pain like anyone else,including you.

And sometimes I am not articulate in what I am trying to say,bit that does not mean I have nothing to say and that I should be devalued.
I am liberal. I care because I have a heart capable of it...


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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:38 PM
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3. Yeah - I forgot that one
Am I an extremist looney liberal because I care about other people and want to help them out? Because I believe that people who can't help themselves deserve a helping hand?
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:39 PM
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4. MAD
I am completely MAD.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:39 PM
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5. My "liberal" t-shirt from cafepress just came in the mail
yesterday, and I proudly wore it all day on SOTU day. It was like my own private protest.

Call me liberal, call me loony, just don't call me late for dinner.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:41 PM
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6. I love the way you write Bushout.
Keep it up.

:hi:
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:45 PM
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8. Thanks
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 01:57 PM by BushOut06
I realized after I wrote it that it sounded exactly like something Michael Moore would have written. If he or anyone else wants to "steal" this, feel free :)

Actually I just emailed my little rant to Michael Moore himself. Hope he uses it!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 04:39 PM
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27. I hope he does too.
Keep writing!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:42 PM
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7. We're all wackos according to Chris Matthews
He said everybody likes Bush except for some left wing wackos (that would be me I guess)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:48 PM
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9. One isn't equivalent to the other
One can think we need to take back "liberal" and that there are fringe loons, all at the same time. Just like one can think that there really are good Christian people and radical fundies, all at the same time.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 01:53 PM
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10. I know that, you know that
But there's nothing wrong with being liberal and standing up for that. If I were a true extremist liberal, I wouldn't be bothering with DU, I'd be frequenting the CPUSA boards. Even then, I don't find their views offensive or anything.

The neocons wear the "conservative" label like some sort of badge of honor. They know they are neocons, and they are damned proud of it. And they love nothing more than to see various Dems scurrying about trying to pretend they're something that they aren't.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:24 PM
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14. Agreed, but
Some have rigid criteria for being liberal including total anti-capitalism, no war ever at all, no religion at all, etc. I respect their beliefs, but it isn't required to accept all of that to be liberal. The demands that one must adhere to the further left realm of liberalism or be called a neocon freeper gets in the way of any meaningful organization on just about any issue.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:29 PM
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15. Just as an aside...
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 02:30 PM by Wordie
I read a new term for the Congressional Republicans recently (ya know, the ones who never met a Bush proposal they didn't support, no matter how bad):

Rubberstamp Republicans!



I just love it!

:rofl:
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:00 PM
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11. I am fucked up. It's a perfectly natural response...
to our current situation. I am depressed. It's not what kind of world I had envisioned for raising my children. I am freaked out. How else should someone feel when you know truths about the present moment, and so many sheeple are asleep at the wheel?
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:09 PM
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12. We need to go on the offensive
The sheeple are that way because they've been spoon-fed info from the rightwingers for years. We need to be every bit as aggressive as they are, and more so. Say what you want about Karl Rove, but the man has done an outstanding job framing this entire debate, casting US as the bad guys.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:12 PM
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13. I'm afraid I have to completely agree with you.
You can be a nice guy and a tough guy.We need to grow some balls,and not let up.It's good that "we" constituents are doing that in our protests and letter writing-now the elected officials need to do the same...or lose their jobs in 2006.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:37 PM
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16. Proud to be among the Libs and Kooks on the left...
...as the vulgar Pig-boy Mr.Limpballs likes to call us. :hippie:
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:39 PM
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17. Yeah, I'm a loony liberal...
I feel like I'm channeling Mike Malloy today... :toast:
I'm warning people about the 1984 police state we're in, so yeah... I'm just a nutjob...
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:41 PM
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18. Yes, but they're a pathetic minority.
(snicker)Looney leftist better tow the line (snicker) or they're irrelevant! Ideas not endorsed by the DLC and the National Council of Manufactures need not apply.(snicker)Shape up, sign up and line up! We're marching over a cliff, in lock step.

If you don't believe me just ask Mr Honesty.
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:43 PM
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19. K&R.
Loony checking in. :hi:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:43 PM
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20. if Moonbat counts then I'm in n/t
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:46 PM
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21. It's a straw man.
I went to a very liberal college, now live in a liberal town, AM liberal, and don't know WHO they're talking about when they talk about the looney left. Who are these people? I've met some of the liberalist people in America... and they're not crazy or even extreme.

But this straw man -- a creation of Rush Limbaugh, IMHO -- persists. It's the person created so that right-wingers will have someone to hate, because they need an enemy. It's a smug, effete, pretentious, espresso-drinking intellectual or a sandals-wearing, non-deodorant-using, pot-smoking weirdo who refuses to "face reality" and who disdains the working guy and rejects old-fashioned morality. What are this heinous person's political views? It really doesn't matter... but we know they're extreme.

(Nevermind that just about half of the espresso-drinking intellectuals are republican, and a goodly portion of the hippies too. I don't know THAT many republicans, but many of them smoke pot! Life is complicated and few people fit into neat little boxes.)

Lots of Democrats buy into the view of the "extreme left," too. These are the Dems that should stop watching TV and instead get out and look around and the variety of people in the world.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:52 PM
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22. They've made JOHN MURTHA a loony liberal -- anyone...
who strongly opposes BushCo. Al Gore, for example, was once a respected politician/environmentalist. Michael Moore was a brilliant, muckraking filmmaker. And the list goes on and on.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 02:55 PM
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23. totally freaked would be more like it.
but still lucid. can both of those exist simultaneously? :wow:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 03:03 PM
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24. Card carrying!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 03:09 PM
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25. Loony as they come!
(Would it be rude to post a link to a relevant recent thread?)
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 03:23 PM
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26. not at all
no competition here ;)
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:02 PM
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28. I'm just as much a "loony liberal" as they are a "mainstream conservative"
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