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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 12:38 PM
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Baby is sent through X-ray machine at LAX
Baby is sent through X-ray machine at LAX
A woman places her month-old grandson in a bin for carry-on items. Doctors later determine he did not get a dangerous dose of radiation.
By Jennifer Oldham
Times Staff Writer

December 20, 2006

A woman going through security at Los Angeles International Airport put her month-old grandson into a plastic bin intended for carry-on items and slid it into an X-ray machine. The early Saturday accident — bizarre but not unprecedented — caught airport workers by surprise, even though the security line was not busy at the time, officials said. A screener watching the machine's monitor immediately noticed the outline of a baby and pulled the bin backward on the conveyor belt. The infant was taken to Centinela Hospital, where doctors determined that he had not received a dangerous dose of radiation.

Officials, who declined to release the 56-year-old woman's name, said she spoke Spanish and apparently did not understand English. She initially didn't want the baby transported to a hospital, but security officials called paramedics and insisted that the child be examined by a doctor. The grandmother and the child were subsequently allowed to board an Alaska Airlines flight to Mexico City. The rare incident drew attention to whether officials are staffing often-busy security checkpoints enough to prevent such an accident. And it raised questions about the danger of X-rays used to pick out suspicious metal shapes in passenger bags, given the medical community's warnings that even low amounts of radiation can build up over a lifetime.

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Security experts said the incident underscored a more widespread concern about the screening process at LAX and other airports. "The screeners are still reporting that they're being pushed," said Brian Sullivan, a retired Federal Aviation Administration security agent. "If a baby can get through, what the hell else can get through?" Nico Melendez, a spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration, which manages LAX screeners, said the agency doesn't have enough workers to constantly stand at tables in front of the screeners to coach passengers on what should or should not be sent through X-ray machines.

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The baby that went through the airport luggage machine was exposed to less radiation than a passenger on a cross-country flight. Typical radiation exposures*:
Luggage screener: 1
Cross-country flight: 5
Chest X-ray: 10
Mammogram: 30
* Measured in millirems, which takes into account both the amount of exposure and the biological effect of the type of radiation in question.



http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-baby20dec20,1,5234712.story?coll=la-headlines-california
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 12:43 PM
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1. Jeez Louise!
I think I need to have more mammograms done.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 12:50 PM
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2. Proving once again that you don't have to have a fully
functioning brain to breed.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 12:58 PM
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5. Perhaps the lack of experience flying, the strictness of rules, and bad translation
(imagine being told in very short terms "EVERYTHING YOU ARE CARRYING MUST GO THROUGH THE MACHINE!") and age were also factors.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 02:32 PM
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15. I wonder about other passengers
even if it was not busy, LAX always has many passengers. Did no one see her putting the baby in the bin???
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:09 PM
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6. she didn't speak english!
I wonder if their signage reflected the languages of the passengers. You would think with a flight going to Mexico City they would have staff on hand who could communicate in Spanish. She probably didn't know what to do and was scared to death.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:27 PM
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9. Everybody in LA speaks spanish!
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 03:12 PM
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19. Yeah, but her BRAIN should speak COMMON SENSE
Any person who puts their baby through an airport screener has grits for brains, no matter what language they speak.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:12 PM
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8. Oh fer chris-sake give ol grammy a break
I thought dems were supposedly the empathetic party

If so...it sure has been it short supply around here lately!

:hangover: :hurts: :freak: :argh: :scared: :thumbsdown:
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hashibabba Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:44 PM
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13. Old Granny??? She's 56. I can do most anything I could
when I was younger, and I'm not senile yet! ;)
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 12:51 PM
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3. But was the baby a terrorist?
Who knows what it might be smuggling in its diaper? ;-)
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:11 PM
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7. I'm guessing some kind of "Dirty Bomb"
Sorry, couldn't resist :evilgrin:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:33 PM
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11. Probably was dirty and probably a bomb too with a stink like that
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 04:08 PM
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23. Hi lurky!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 12:53 PM
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4. At least the baby was supervised
The nannys shouldn't have a problem with this one,
as she was with the baby the whole time,
and that's all that's important.

You can't outlaw stupidity.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:32 PM
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10. This happened in Canada a few years back, as well
The baby was aboriginal, I think, which added an extra dimension to the case.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 05:01 PM
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29. I seem to recall that the baby was bundled on a carrying board
... a traditional thing in some northern aboriginal cultures. I forget which airport it was, but it was certainly one where the staff ought to have been familiar with the practice, since there were regular flights to northern communities. The employee responsible had claimed that the infant had been mistaken for "luggage".
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:34 PM
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12. I wonder how much exposure the workers are receiving after a year or two
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 01:59 PM
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14. Sayyyyyyy... that' s not a 'Tickle Me Elmo'...... n/t
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 02:53 PM
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16. Less radiation...? I doubt it....
Do you thing the makers of these machine would release the true specs of it's capability?

I suspect is way more radiation hazard INSIDE the x-ray machine that people realize....the screeners do...

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 03:06 PM
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18. "Do you thing the makers of these machine"
"would release the true specs of it's capability?"

Well, yeah I do. It's radiation. It's tightly controlled and easily measured.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 03:15 PM
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20. Why do you "doubt it"?
> Less radiation...? I doubt it....
>
> Do you thing the makers of these machine would release the true specs of it's capability?
>
> I suspect is way more radiation hazard INSIDE the x-ray machine that people realize....the screeners do..

Why do you "doubt it"? Do the machines fog photo film?

(Try that with your local medical X-Ray machine and see
how the Kodacolor snaps of your trip turn out.)

Modern X-Ray detectors are *VERY* sensitive, and the
doses of X-Rays used are quite low.

Tesha
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 03:03 PM
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17. Another point for English only...
not.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 03:26 PM
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21. Cross country flight: 5 millirems?
Damn, I'm getting the equivalent of a chest xray every week! I wonder how long before the 3rd arm sprouts.
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 03:37 PM
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22. Well shit.
If the dose is low than let me climb through the damn thing instead of taking off my shoes, belt, wallet, watch, money clip and anything else on my person LOL.

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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 04:36 PM
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27. Sounds like a great idea to me...The should have full- body x-ray
Just lay on the mat and go through the damn machine.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 05:24 PM
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32. I like it.
A moving sidewalk passing through a big ass xray. Make it nice and simple for all us travelers.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 04:31 PM
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25. is that due to the altitude?
cosmic rays and whatnot?
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 04:35 PM
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26. Yep
Space is a pretty radioactive place, and only our nice atmospheric blanket keeps us safe from most of it. The higher you climb in the atmosphere, the less protection you have and the more radiation you receive. The Apollo astronauts absorbed more radiation in their lunar visits than most of us absorb in a lifetime.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 04:29 PM
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24. WTF...Na speaka englas.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 04:59 PM
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28. Holy Crap.
Maybe the lady should have her head examined.:crazy:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 05:09 PM
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30. My baby granddaugther was sent through a scanner in Chicago
at whatever building that my daughter went to in order to take care of a traffic ticket last year.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 05:17 PM
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31. Poor baby. I hope there's no harmful effects.
Talk about "Total Recall":


I hope the baby doesn't end up like this:
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