So I bought some Alaskan cod in the market today and when

[Cleita]

I got home, there was a small label on it that said:

"WILD CAUGHT ALASKAN COD FILLETS PRODUCT OF CHINA"

Any Alaskan DUers here who can explain this? I always thought that fishing was one of the mainstays of the Alaskan and Canadian economies. Are we outsourcing our fisheries now too along with our forests to China?

[NMDemDist2]

1. the Chinese ships processed it? n/t

[shance]

2. Well Cleita that just about beats all.

Made in China when its supposed to be 'made in Alaska'??

Just when you think you've seen it all........

[sproutster]

3. I think they sit on the international line for the spawn

Part of the reason the industry went to hell.

[Broken_Hero]

4. We still make our own...

I worked for EC Phillips and Sons, up in SE Alaska...we did everything, from catching them, filleting them, freezing them/smoking them, to putting them in nice little boxes to sell to tourists, and for other markets in the lower 48. I think you got had....

on edit:I notice it was cod...the Chinese/Russians, also fish our waters, especially the Bering Sea area...there is a cheap commode fish, called Pollack, which is used for most fast food/frozen fish sticks...perhaps, that's what you got...caught in Alaska waters, but produced, and processed by the Chinese.

[karlrschneider]

5. I'd have to guess here...the fish were caught & processed by a Chinese ship

in international waters near Alaska...?

(I don't think cod grow in the South China Sea...and actually didn't even know they were native to the Pacific)

[Cleita]

6. Either BushCo has eased restrictions on foreign fishing

operations in our waters or maybe it isn't cod? Now that I think about it most cod is Islandic. I don't remember it being Alaskan, but I'm not sure.

[Tellurian]

8. Take it back..

I would and I'd mention to the supermarket..Whats this all about?

[Broken_Hero]

10. we got cods...

thats for sure...I'm trying to remember if the Pollack fish, is considered a cod...

on edit:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollock

[karlrschneider]

11. I'm no piscatorial expert, but I've heard about overfishing of cod in the Atlantic

especially off New England. Maybe it's a slightly different species? My own take on the seafood situation is enjoy it while we can because it will be gone in a couple of decades.

[Wiley50]

21. Well, I'm Sure Your Piece of Cod, Even If Chinese

will be better than the cod piece Chimpy was wearing
on that aircraft carrier a while back

[Parche]

7. cod

Cod damnit, they are now farming out our fisheries to other countries, I hope they are not
doing this on porpoise, all of this news is giving me a haddock.........

[karlrschneider]

12. You said that just for the halibut, didn't you?

:eyes:

[Broken_Hero]

13. yummm...beer battered halibut...

God, I miss home, at times...:D

[karlrschneider]

14. It's damn near impossible to find around here, but on that rare occasion,

slowly baked in a pan of lemon butter with a bit of dill sprinkled atop...


Damn you.

;-)

[Broken_Hero]

16. lemon, butter, and salt...

the main seasonings, for almost all fish...you can hardly ever fail, with those spices...:D I'm stuck in SW Missouri, and the only fish I can find, are weak Pink Salmon...

Pink Salmon/aka Humpy's, are the lowest of the low, of Salmon...to me, they are a garbage fish, only to be used for crab/shrimp pots...but a lot of people down here think its GREAT! I'm like...bleh, try some sockeye, and your taste buds will explode! Sockeye/dog salmon are my favorite Salmons, but Halibut is by far, my favorite fish...:)

[karlrschneider]

24. Not too far from you, NE Oklahoma. We have come to really like white bass

from the lake about 200 yards from the house. They're basically free, if you don't mind chalking up a couple hours of relaxation/fishing to pure leisure. :D

[Broken_Hero]

25. NE Ok...hmm, do you fish at Grand lake, or

near Disney? I'm still getting use to fishing for fresh water fish...the bass are rather fickle at times. My biggest catch here, was a 2lb small mouth bass....

[karlrschneider]

27. Sometimes, but we live on Ft. Gibson. There are jilliions of white (sand) bass here.

Largemouth bass are fun to catch but not much good to eat. (We're the 2nd lake down the Grand river from Grand Lake, after Hudson)

[Broken_Hero]

28. ah, okay...

never been to FT. Gibson, I try to stay out of Oklahoma as much as possible, not to many good memories...

A good friend of mine, has been trying to get me hooked on fishing here, but it hasn't taken a full grip on me yet...I would love to try pond fishing, but a lot of the folks in my area are rather...fickle themselves!...:) Grand lake has a lot of potential, but I would probably need a boat. I didn't realize how big Grand lake was, until I saw it on a map...

[karlrschneider]

30. It -is- huge that's for sure. Gibson is only half as big but one can get lost on it too,

Here's a little info on it

http://www.swt-wc.usace.army.mil/FGIB.lakepage.html

[Lurking Dem]

9. I know there are billboards in coastal Georgia

that read You didn't come here to eat pond raised shrimp from China with a website for http://wildgeorgiashrimp.com so we are apparently importing seafood we used to get domestically.

[sandnsea]

15. Heard that about chicken too

I do not even understand it, but read somewhere that they're planning on shipping chickens to China for processing, then bringing them back here. I don't get how it can be cheaper to do that, or how we can guarantee sanitary food, but there you have it.

[Broken_Hero]

17. I never heard that before...

I'm surronded by chicken plants, in SW Missouri...we got Tyson/Simmons plants spread out around here...and tons of chicken houses. It makes no sense to ship them over to China, to be sent back...well, that CEO logic I suppose.

[sandnsea]

18. Maybe it's chinese chicken

Here's a recent article, maybe this is what was meant, although it's not what I remember. Anyway, China will cook its own chicken and ship it in.

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?contentid=91301

[Broken_Hero]

19. Thanks for the link

its hard to believe, that we would have to import chicken...

[necso]

23. I remember reading that too.

(But in a different link than yours: one mentioning some company considering trying it out.)

Ocean shipping is cheap; Chinese labor is cheap; but I imagine they would kill (clean some?), freeze, ship, defrost, process, then refreeze the chickens.

They're going to offshore everything that can be done cheaper there, while driving labor costs down here -- to compete with the offshored labor... a losing proposition for most Americans in time.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

20. It's simply cooked in microwave safe

china.... I think.... maybe.

[LaReservaPr]

22. I think this might help...

http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/fisheries/reports/SWOT/SWOT_Market.pdf

4. What are the trends regarding reprocessing of frozen fish in China and elsewhere? What is the acceptability of previously frozen seafood as a source of raw material for value-added
products?


On pages 7 & 8 of the file.

[Cleita]

29. Thanks. Twice frozen doesn't sit well with me although I know

they do it with the chicken we get. Pisses me off. And they said it's done more cheaply so no one can compete. Time to start writing letters again.

[TheFarseer]

26. maybe the packaging was made in China? n/t

[Cleita]

31. No, it's just shrink wrap with a label. The made in China label

was put in an inconspicuous place on the back and I didn't see it until I got home. This is bigger than packaging. If you read the post above yours with the pdf report, the fish is frozen and sent to china to be filleted, wrapped and frozen again. The Chinese do it so cheaply no one else can compete. I guess the fisherman are local still. That's one thing that I was worried about that they were letting the Chinese fish in our territorial waters.

[roamer65]

32. Uh oh... counterfeit Alaskan cod from China.

:silly: