Erika
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:46 PM
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If W doesn't get it, we must impeach |
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That simple. He's sending our kids to die for Haliburton. They elected him president and he owes them.
He has no problems sending our kids to die but none of the Bush clan will be there. Our middle and low income class kids want a shot at seeing the world and getting an education. Right now they can become fodder and take their chances.
You won't see Noel, George P, Barbara and Jenna there.
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:48 PM
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1. Like there's even a chance he'll "get it"... |
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Track record analysis says no.
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:48 PM
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2. That doesn't really logically follow. |
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How about "if investigations find solid evidence for systematic intentional violation of law, then we must impeach." That works a lot better than "if people die in war, and none of them are the President's daughter, than we must impeach."
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:49 PM
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3. The President of the United States DOESN'T KNOW what to do |
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about a "war" ! He absolutely must be removed. I've gone back and forth about the timing of impeachment, but he must be removed, NOW. There is no other choice. How, that's another thing. Just begin the process.
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Erika
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:56 PM
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5. Agreed, W must be impeached NOW |
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If we are to save our country from comporatist control. The stupid freepers and bushbots are too silly and shallow to see they are instrumental in damaging our country.
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:54 PM
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4. I think Congress has to vote against 'the surge' and approving any more |
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funds to support this war, regardless of whether people think they're UnAmerican and don't support the troops. The argument should be they won't support the war funds because they SUPPORT the troops. Why not frame it that way?
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Wed Dec-20-06 11:58 PM
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6. Anyone who thinks that stopping the "surge" and cutting the |
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funding for MORE troops (and MORE money for Haliburton) is the nutty one. There has been such an obscene amount of money spent on this war (obscene in its own right), and yet we have so many troops over there who are in un- and under-armored vehicles, don't have the right equipment for their safety, etc. If any additional money is spent, it should NOT be on sending more troops over there, but to protect the ones who already ARE there, AND to start bringing them home. To me, THAT is supporting the troops.
God, my head is just exploding over all this crap.
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Erika
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:01 AM
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:03 AM
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8. I think we're saying the same thing. Stop funding the war, |
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don't even entertain the idea of a 'surge', and bring them HOME! That's what I meant about framing; we'll stop throwing money at Iraq BECAUSE we want the troops home.
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Erika
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:06 AM
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Enough is enough. If W wants this insane and unjust war to continue let him and the bushbots fight in and fund it.
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:01 AM
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7. The Dems should take the blame if that is what it takes |
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Only idiots will actually buy the shameless right wing spin that suggests "Democrats lost the war by not having the will to stay the effort."
Aren't the Democrats tired of having their patriotism questioned by the likes of W and Rove?
The civilian command lost the occupation by way of sinister policies. End the occupation and start the prosecutions.
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Erika
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:04 AM
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9. The Dems want W to answer for why we are in Iraq |
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and a total investigation. The patriotism of W and Rove are in question as they continue a dead end war.
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:15 AM
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11. I think there are a lot of people coming around to this idea. |
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I think the conventional wisdom was that Bush would follow the advice of the Wise Old Bi-Partisan Men and use the cover to extricate himself and our troops from the deepening quagmire. But he obviously hasn't gotten the message. And he's still in a position to do unthinkable damage. I think WOBM are awakening to the organic defects in this guy. He's not right in the head....a bit unbalanced and unpredictable on what he'll do next. He's obviously obsessed with his legacy of failure and incompetence....and his way out seems to be doubling down and shoveling the hole wider and deeper. His benefactors love the tax-cuts and pro-business bias Bush that he has delivered as expected...but even they realize that a bankrupt economy and a world solidly against US business interests is not what they signed up for.
Republicans have to be thinking of what 2 more years of Bush will do to their Party's future, they can't defend a course that going to sink the ship of state much longer. It wouldn't surprise me if there are off-the-record discussions happening as we speak that will lead to a more blunt confrontation with this administration - either he get with the ISG program and throttle back on the democracy rhetoric...or face the consequences. The investigations will start the minute the new Congress is sworn in and neither Bush nor Congressional Republicans are holding the cards.
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Thu Dec-21-06 12:45 AM
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12. God, I hope so! I hope people wake the heck up to what further |
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Edited on Thu Dec-21-06 12:45 AM by babylonsister
damage their 'elected (or not) official' might be capable of. We need some adults in attendance who have our country's interest at heart, not a legacy or a stubborn ideology that never worked.
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Erika
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Thu Dec-21-06 01:36 AM
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13. W with his obstinance will decimate the GOP for decades |
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Since they served as rubber stampers of his radical ideas, let it be. Now they are running as fast as they can from him. touch too late.
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Old and In the Way
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Thu Dec-21-06 02:35 AM
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14. I'm where you are at. |
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Let them live with their rubberstamping consequences. They enabled the boy-king, they can reap their just desserts. Let's investigate and impeach him. Republicans can vote to hold this administration unaccountable or they can join us and remove him from power. Neither option bodes well for the Republican Syndicate.
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Thu Dec-21-06 02:58 AM
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15. Bush waited and the DSM, Cindy, and all other challengers wound down and faded. |
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At least, in visibility and in vital energetic resistance. God bless Cindy and let's hope that a new blast of visibility and support tips Bush down again. These clowns have taken over the sandbox and simply wait out all cries for fair play, hoping someone challenges them with fists, which is what they understand.
It's an immense list- illegal wiretapping, lies for invasion, and on and on and on. I believe that only massive peaceful protest will remove the machine from the Treasury. Shut down its ability to function through peaceful demonstration that cannot be ignored, and cannot be stopped except by making the bad guys look even worse. Fight them with weapons, and they'll have an excuse to use weapons as well. The NRA and others would be extremely happy for any opportunity along these lines. Look into how Ghandi and followers shut down the occupiers and follow suit.
If it were possible to function as a country by simply ignoring (and thus obsoleting) BushCo, I'd say go for it. As they appear to be able to change oil prices at will (of course in their favor), this is unlikely.
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Thu Dec-21-06 04:25 AM
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16. I just caught the first few minutes of the Scarborough repeat from last night |
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and Scarborough was saying that it looks like the only option left is to impeach at this point. He was talking about the 12%ers who keep on clinging to this failed illegal war and how a delusional and paranoid * is incapable of responding to reasoned arguments against increased troop levels. I was astounded to hear something like this being talked about on that program and the New Republic panel guy nodding in agreement.
I say, let's impeach. Now!
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Thu Dec-21-06 06:47 AM
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17. Agreed but now that we've elected our craven leaders, we've lost |
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