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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:33 PM
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Is Santa a Wiccan?
and how did this "magical elf" get so deep inside the Christian operation of Christmas?

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:36 PM
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1. Sure, we'll claim ownership!
Might not be true, but we like him enough to make him an honorary witch. :evilgrin:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:37 PM
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2. So your real question is:
"is Santa a mole?"

As to the first question, I don't think Santa has enough respect for the earth to be a Wiccan -- but then, he could always convert.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 05:14 PM
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15. I'm not sure about that...
Santa has been around a long time, and if Santa is capable of producing as many toys and other gifts as he his credited for, he'd probably be one of the worlds biggest manufacturers. Given this, I've seen no evidence of massive deforestation (for wood for his toys) or greenhouse gasses (from the burning of fossil fuels), or waste of any kind that can be actually attributed to what would be his massive manufacturing base. If one of the worlds largest manufacturers can produce all these products and the world cannot even tell if he's using any natural resources at all, he must run a pretty "Green" shop. I'm not sure how progressive his labor policies are with the elves, but as far as the earth goes, it seems like he might be okay.

:)
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Hun Joro Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:38 PM
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3. This website offers some interesting thoughts on that
Edited on Thu Dec-21-06 04:40 PM by Hun Joro
www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3136.html

Edited to add a snip:

Santa Claus, super shaman

Although the modern image of Santa Claus was created at least in part by the advertising department of Coca-Cola, in truth his appearance, clothing, mannerisms and companions all mark him as the reincarnation of these ancient mushroom-gathering shamans.

One of the side effects of eating amanita mushrooms is that the skin and facial features take on a flushed, ruddy glow. This is why Santa is always shown with glowing red cheeks and nose. Even Santa's jolly "Ho, ho, ho!" is the euphoric laugh of one who has indulged in the magic fungus.

Santa also dresses like a mushroom gatherer. When it was time to go out and harvest the magical mushrooms, the ancient shamans would dress much like Santa, wearing red and white fur-trimmed coats and long black boots.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:40 PM
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6. "cannabis culture" ??? Did Santa smoke grass in that pipe?
Is that why he goes "ho ho ho" all the time?

:evilgrin:
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Hun Joro Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:42 PM
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7. Possibly, but the article points to mushrooms n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:43 PM
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9. Actually Snopes says he is not a creation of Coke
But a mixture of the traditional St. Nicholas with Christkindlein and his furry (whiskered) helper Belsnickel

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 05:54 PM
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16. See, I always figured the "flushed, ruddy glow"
was because he was whino. And then I wondered why people would let their kids sit on a strange whino's lap and tell him about the things they wanted most in the world.

But maybe that's just me. :D
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 05:56 PM
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17. Ultra cool! Thanks.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:39 PM
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4. Psst, he's Satan, they just mis-spelled it.
Think about it. He's the harbinger of materialism. Sounds pretty evil to me.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:40 PM
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5. Santa predates Wicca
But he is definately pagan to some extent.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:42 PM
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8. The Orthodox Christian community begs to differ. . .
More interesting food for thought.

Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

:bounce:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:45 PM
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11. Patron saint of sailors and archers huh?
Very interesting. St.Nick apparently was a fisherman too.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:45 PM
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10. Santa's Ásatrú!
:P
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:58 PM
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12. Well,,,, he can fly,,, and he is jolly. I vote him in. nt
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 05:00 PM
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13. Just another example of the "War On Christmas"
You heathens take a nice Catholic Saint who delivered gifts through the front door, and impart to him druidic warlock-like abilities to fly and talk to animals. Where's the outrage?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 05:08 PM
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14. I always thought he was a bad interpretation/translation of
Sankt Niklaus (Sant-a-Klaus) or St Nicholas.


:shrug:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 05:58 PM
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18. Ummmmmmm No.
Damned if I know the silly backstory to this question LOL
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