Let's use a little commons sense: In the "Surge (escalation)" matter...

[originalpckelly]

We are sending more troops to Iraq. What do we expect them to do? Shoot people, right?

Isn't that going to increase the level of violence? How is that a good thing?

Maybe we should also use a little common sense when it comes to the civilian casualties. It might shed some light on why the Iraqis aren't greeting us as liberators.

How would you feel if someone invaded where you live, killed a couple of your family members, and then repeatedly insisted that this was for your own good?

I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that I would probably not think favorably of the invaders. I, like most sane human beings, would be pretty enraged at the fact someone just killed people I loved. It's pretty much a given that I, and most people, would not like the invaders after they killed my family.

I could be wrong, but you know I probably not.

And we wonder why these Iraqis want us out of Iraq. Wouldn't you want the invaders to leave after they killed your family and then had the gal to insist that it was for your own good?

[Cary]

1. Common sense would have prevented us from invading Iraq in the first place

Sadly, first and foremost you have to deal with this Commander in Chief. He's going to stay the course. The rest is all rhetoric.

At some point the Republicans are going to come out against him in earnest. The Republicans made a strategic error going after Clinton on a straight partisan basis. If the president is going to be seriously challenged it has to be done in a bi-partisan matter to have meaning beyond politics.

[Double T]

2. Everyone BUT bushco and their followers can see that what 'We' have done.......

and are continuing to do is wrong. When you have sold your soul to the military industrial complex, the oil companies and the neocons, rational and sane thinking does NOT matter.