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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 03:37 PM
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MUST SEE!! - - BBC's Sun Myung Moon documentary -- "Emperor of the Universe" up at google
Don't know how long these will be up so get'em while you can.

Google Vids has the BBC's 2000 Moon documentary - "The Emperor of the Universe" up now...

This is an excellent documentary that more than gives the Moonies a fair shake - one beef I have with it is that William Cheshire - a former Washington Times editor who is excellent in the doc other than one statement - he says that Bush 41, who has been major shill for Moon, doesn't know what Moon is up to. That is nonsense.

This is must see...

EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSE

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2215097044216099155&hl=en



also a 2 hour panel discussion of Moon/cults and the media from 1991


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9008719207533458404&hl=en

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learn about one source of Moon's money - swindling the Japanese - here:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/9/13513/46197

Learn some about the independence of the Washington Times here:
http://www.cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 03:46 PM
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1. self-delete
Edited on Fri Dec-22-06 04:13 PM by derby378
Found an answer to my question...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 04:06 PM
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2. Finally - documentaries on Moon are difficult to come by in the US where he's so
protected by BushInc and the corporate media.

I think it's SIGNIFICANT that Cheshire felt it necessary to say Bush doesn't 'know' what Moon is doing. It shows they ARE concerned about people finding out more - as if we're supposed to believe that the head of the CIA really never knew what Moon was up to......and I suppose there are bridges somewhere in Brooklyn for sale?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 04:18 PM
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3. Bush 41 doesn't 'know' what Moon is doing.
Yeah, right. Is that why he bought 98K acres of land in Paraguay right next to Rev. Moon's territory?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 04:49 PM
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4. Remember 41's claim that he was "out of the loop"
on Iran-Contra? He must be a direct descendant of Sgt. Shultz from the old Hogan's Heroes TV show.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:04 PM
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5. K&R.nt
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:20 PM
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9. Seems very pro-Moon so far
Unintentionally(?) hilarious however. "He suffered for all the sins of mankind and says he became perfect."
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:22 PM
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10. It's explaining the myth of Moon
most certainly NOT pro Moon. Keep watching.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:25 PM
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12. Ok..yeah I was too hasty
I was impatient for the slamming to start from "go" ;). Creeeepy cult..
I am hoping that they get to all his political ties with US politicians and that creepy "crowning ceremony"....
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:33 PM
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14. done in 2000 - this won't have the crowing from 2004 in it
they do talk to Moon's x daughter in law and she describes what the title is from - when Moon had himself crowned Emperor of the Universe - she says in his mind he became God then. There are some quotes where Moon in fact says after all is said and done, God will look back at Moon's accomplishments and realize Moon is greater than He.
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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:12 PM
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6. Finally a good moonie video
A deeply important behind the scenes look of the real face of republican party. recommended!
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:13 PM
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7. kick. watching the panel discussion now
more people need to know this stuff
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:18 PM
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8. Bush knows exactly what his beloved crony Second-Coming-of-Christ Moon is up to
Edited on Fri Dec-22-06 05:25 PM by SpiralHawk


George AWOL Bush knows -- his Skull & Boner buddies would never let him forget what is going on OCCULTLY.

Birds of a feather are flocking together.

The aspens are intertwined.

Bush and Moon.

Adjoining Vast Estates in Paraguay for Commander AWOL and Rev. Second Coming?

What's that shit all about?

Barf-O-rama.


Why do the so-called Christian followers of Bush not see what is going on?

Even the elect may be deceived.

Does Bush believe Rev. Moon's bald claims to be the Second Coming of Christ?

I think one of the corporate reporters should ask him.

Or does Commander AWOL think that he, himself, is the Second Coming of Christ?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:29 PM
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13. Corporate reporters won't do it - Moon bought up most of the studio spaces around DC
area and rents them out for bargain rates to news networks and even supplies cutrate videocrews. Notice there haven't been any network news reports or documentaries on RevMoon since the last one by NBC in 1991?

No news coverage of the cult leader who now controls more than half this nation's entire fishing industry?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 08:36 PM
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15. Why that sounds like the work of an Evil Doer?
What would Jesus do?

Would Jesus buy up all the studio space, and get his hooks into the corporate media?

I must have fallen asleep during that chapter in Bible School?

But no doubt Commander AWOL was paying attention...
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 02:10 PM
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18. Wow. I didn't know he was buying up studio spaces in the DC area
thanks for the info.

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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-25-06 12:05 AM
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25. here's one reason TV won't cover Moon
Edited on Mon Dec-25-06 12:06 AM by Cell Whitman
From 1992 to 2004 there was about 3 minutes of TV news coverage of Moon and that on BS subjects. Think about that. During that period the man, who has a goal to control the direction of the planet, and he spent billions manipulating our political system and the media says NOTHING.

Moon owns what is now called the AmericanLife TV cable network,(formerly the Nostalgia Channel or Goodlife TV) which is the only independently owned cable channel in the country according to them. George Clooney's father works/shills for Moon's efforts there.

Here's a quote from the NBC Nightly News report from 1990 in which they say things like Moon owned 1/3 of the USA fishing industry. This post is on one reason TV won't cover Moon.

read a transcript of the whole report at the link...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/15/221015/62

Funded in part by Church related businesses, in the past five years Park has bought virtually every independent television production company in Washington DC. He's built this $90 million dollar complex and now controls five companies, including the largest state of the art studio in town.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 05:24 PM
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11. Thanks. Bookmarked for later.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 11:13 PM
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16. the panel of former WTimes editors is excellent
Three conservatives who were former editors of the WT talk about why they left and explain how the paper brings Moon face. They mention Chris Matthews as Tip's press man being against Moon when the paper started and years later ended up taking the Moon cash.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9008719207533458404&hl=en
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 02:46 AM
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17. K & R.
thanks.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 02:14 PM
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19. Moon was coronated "saviour" etc. in Senate office bldg.
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 02:17 PM by happydreams
This is bizarre beyond belief. The thing that undoes these bastards is their own arrogance:


...The Rev. Sun Myung Moon, former felon and current owner of The Washington Times, was the man in the spotlight, declaring himself humanity’s “savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent.”

The event, which took place March 23, was sponsored by the Washington Times Foundation and the International Interreligious Federation for World Peace (IIFWP), a Moon-led group. Present at different points during the event were Reps. Danny Davis (D-Ill.), Curt Weldon (R-Pa.), Roscoe Bartlett (R-Md.) and Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and Sen. Mark Dayton (R-Minn.).....

One of Moon’s claims that evening was that “Hitler and Stalin have found strength in my teachings, mended their ways and been reborn as new persons.”....

The invitation for the event lists Davis, Weldon and Bartlett and Reps. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.), Chris Cannon (R-Utah) and Harold Ford Jr. (D-Tenn.) as “Congressional Co-Chairs.” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Reps. Tom Davis (R-Va.) and Phil Crane (R-Ill.) and GOP consultant Charlie Black were listed as members of the “Host Committee.”


http://www.hillnews.com/news/062204/moon.aspx
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 07:38 PM
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23. The visuals...
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 06:03 PM
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20. kick
that panel discussion is very interesting as well
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 06:08 PM
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21. x-tian republicans, bow to your new messiah!
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 07:29 PM
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22. Good documentary...just skims the surface, though
Although in the time they had, they did a good job.

My god, this brings back (bad) memories.

I'm an ex-moonie. I knew Allen Tate Wood very well, and I'm glad to see he's virulently anti-Moon. They didn't mention, although I think it was hinted, that Bo Hi Pak was KCIA.

I saw a LOT of money change hands, including money to and from the Nixon White House (through a Moonie political group Freedom Leadership Foundation). I heard Moon say, more than once, that he's willing to sacrifice (i.e. have killed) one-third of the world population to achieve "victory" (whch is world domination).
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:38 PM
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24. Yes, Wood is anti Moon and has done some good work
Edited on Sun Dec-24-06 11:44 PM by Cell Whitman
over the years in that regard. He was a witness before Fraser. He is very quotable and has a lot of good stuff on his site also... Seems like the moonites go after former members critical of them but, though I am sure they have at some time, I don't see them tangle with Wood much. He was too high up the ladder for them to act like he doesn't know what he is talking about.

http://www.allentwood.com/


They talk a bit more about Bo Hi's connections in the video here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9008719207533458404&hl=en

Moon is actually pulling off many of the things he predicted he would do years ago. He is creating a world political manipulation machine - "centered" on the Universal Peace Federation(UPF) - and he is housing it in a temple in Korea - the temple is a replica of God's temple in heaven according to his mediums -

Countries all over the world are falling for his line of BS. The president of Nigeria asked that Moon use his "great influence" to help Africa, the president of Liberia is hot for Moon's Ambassadors for Peace program which one of his preachers said the AfP were created to "govern the world" as TP representatives. He is signing up AfP all over the world. Not starry eyed members but religious and political activists all over the world.

Look at this professor from LSU Shreveport

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061113/BREAKINGNEWS/61113004

who is shilling for the UPF and Moon's NGO gigging unit, WANGO, and likely has no clue what he is lending his name to. I made some comments to this article pointing out who the author refused to mention was involved, and my comments were scrubbed. The media will NOT tell the nation Moon has spent billions that brought the hard right to power in America in the 80s and 90s, sans Moon and you don't have Bush in the WH, wouldn't have happened without Moon's billions tilling the political field the last 25 years.

After spending billions promoting everything liberals hate, funding a paper that has been kicking the Democrats in the balls for 25 years - Moon added "peace" to one of his front group's names (UPF) and now people like Vilsak and Corzine send Moon greetings on he and his families tours promoting the culmination of his grand plan, the Universal Peace Federation.

Abass endorsed one their "peace" conferences in the Middle East. Moon's wife and son met and gave Karzai an award and met recently with the president of India. Moon is working with the Philippines to promote the idea of the UN adding a theocratic body to its structure - and more importantly that people be open to the idea so they will be sucked into accepting the UPF which is Moon's personal UN..

I could go on, but the fact is Moon is doing what he said he would, just maybe not as people expected to see it unfold but it is unfolding - NOW.
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