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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 05:38 AM
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End of the neo-con dream
The ambitions proclaimed when the neo-cons' mission statement "The Project for the New American Century" was declared in 1997 have turned into disappointment and recriminations as the crisis in Iraq has grown.
The Project for the New American Century" has been reduced to a voice-mail box and a ghostly website. A single employee has been left to wrap things up.
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Neo-conservatism has gone for a generation, if in fact it ever returns," says one of the movement's critics, David Rothkopf, currently at the Carnegie Endowment in Washington, and a former official in the Clinton administration.
Their signal enterprise was the invasion of Iraq and their failure to produce results is clear. Precisely the opposite has happened," he says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6189793.stm
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 05:53 AM
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1. good riddance
a bunch of delusional f*&ks
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 07:24 AM
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2. 'Bush is last neo-con standing.." AND HE'S THE PREZ
This part jumped out at me:

"George Bush is about the last neo-conservative standing, Cheney as well maybe. Bush is not an analytical person so he just adopted the neo-cons' philosophy. "

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good article, but that part scary
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 07:39 AM
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3. This war was brought to you
by our good friends at



Unfortunately, these bastards aren't gone, they've just moved to a new undisclosed location.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:17 AM
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7. I know where they do need moving to
A guard post just outside the Green Zone.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 07:41 AM
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4. But we still know who these assholes are.......
every last one of them. Those signatures under the PNAC will always be available as evidence when these crimes are finally prosecuted.

True the rats are abandoning ship, but the damage done must be accounted for. This war will haunt them the rest of their miserable neo-con existence.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 07:41 AM
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5. Where can I get my "New American Century" T-shirt?
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:07 AM
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6. PNAC may be dead, but BushCo still follows the neocon playbook.
This ill-conceived "surge" idea comes from the folks at AEI.
This time the mission is to contain the Iranian/Shiite threat.
They've even brought Tony Blair back on the reservation
for this plan.

Neoconservatism is discredited in the eyes of rational
policy makers, but not Bush, Cheney, or Rice.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:57 AM
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8. Well I'll be the paranoid party-pooper.
These bastards aren't going to go away. They will reconvene, reorganize and reform somewhere else. Sort of like Sauron in the Tolkien saga. All I'm saying is I wouldn't be so quick to write out a death certificate.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:04 AM
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9. You could be right I suppose
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:24 AM
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10. You're absolutely correct. Several of the bastards are already "reconvening" at the AEI.
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 11:24 AM by scarletwoman
from the article:

Indeed, not all neo-conservatives have given up all hope in Iraq.

The AEI, which has become the natural home for refugees from the American Project, is promoting an article entitled: "Choosing Victory: A Plan for Success in Iraq".

The article calls not for a withdrawal of US troops but for an increase. President Bush's decision is expected in early January.


These people will be infesting our government, our politics, and our policies for years to come -- unless there comes a sea change in the consciousness of our entire country.

Will no one rid us of these meddlesome priests?

sw
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:28 AM
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11. not only the neocons
As the "conservative" agenda plays out across America and around the world, conservatism is shown for the failed, misbegotten, absurdly foolish set of grossly destructive ideas that it is.

The time has come to take back our country, our democracy, our wealth and our hopes for the future from the wealthy ubercapitalists who have stolen what they could not win at the ballot box.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:39 AM
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12. They have a domestic agenda as well- and it's still in place.
I understand the sentiment he's expressing, but Neoconservatism isn't dead. The foreign policy aspects of it may be over, but their imperial domestic policies are still in place, and still have the support of some very influential segments of society. Everything from torture to their economic policies, which are designed to create a two-tiered "have and have-not" society- all of *that* needs to be tossed into the same trash heap as their foreign policy ideas.
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