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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:22 AM
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A thread to show just how how compassionate we are! F'ing Ridiculous!
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 09:23 AM by trumad
6473 views and over 236 responses because a "freepers" kid was killed in an accident.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2968211

In the meantime, 5 Soldiers were killed in Iraq yesterday which brings the total to 74 in December and that goes by with barely a peep in General Discussion. Oh--and don't get me started on the Innocent kids that die daily in Iraq, Darfur, etc.....

The thread about the "freepers" kid is nothing more than us puffing out our chests and acting as if we're all that in the compassionate department. I ask, why the fuck do we have to do that? It's a given that the majority of Liberals in general grieve all death be it a "freepers" Kids death or the death of an Iraq school kid. Do we really need to prove this with some vanity thread?

What? You think this thread will find it's way back to Rimjobs lair and and his minions will all of a sudden get a clue? ROFL.

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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:24 AM
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1. I'm just one parent, offering my condolences to another
who has suffered an unimaginable loss.

nothing more, nothing less.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:26 AM
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2. Actually a few did come over and thank us
You see its very seldom that you convince the opposition that they are mistaken about you with words. Its usually actions that changes people's minds. When you are not what they expect or imagine you to be then they have to rethink their positions. Thats the way differences are made. Not by being right but rather by being understanding.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:27 AM
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3. So is that the purpose of the thread?
To recruit?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:28 AM
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6. To be human
And in so being show others how to be human as well. This is the purpose of all productive communication.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:29 AM
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8. Look I get it...I really do...
But I'm simply amazed that a thread like that could could far more play than other threads about the deaths of others...most notably, soldiers and Iraqies....
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:27 AM
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4. Compassion
is a strength, not a weakness. And the suffering that death causes is not properly viewed in competitive terms.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:28 AM
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7. Oh but I disagree my esteemed good Friend.
I think that is exactly why the thread was posted and I think that is what we are doing.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:31 AM
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9. I will accept that
you view it in very different terms than I do. But I do not think that your reasoning applies to many, if any, of those who participated on the thread -- excepting those who had their messages deleted.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:33 AM
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13. Those who had their messages deleted most likely deserved it..
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 09:33 AM by trumad
and believe me, I'm diminishing this kids death.....

but come on... ya gotta admit a bit that it's a "look at us" thread pointed directly at Free Republic.

AND too me... it's bullshit.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:41 AM
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24. I am not familiar
with "Free Republic." I have a general idea of what it is, from reading DU. I suspect the thinking on Free Republic is similar to that of a guy who used to help keep the financial books at the clinic where I was employed. He was a rigid, obnoxious, self-righteous republican, who was always talking big shit about sending the US military to enforce his belief system, though he never fit into a uniform himself. If his son were to die in an auto accident, I would certainly attempt to reach out to him. It would never cross my mind to try to use a moral measuring cup, to compare the situation with the suffering in Iraq or anywhere else. Nor would it be cause for me to consider how anyone else might view what I did. But again, I accept that different people have different value systems, and that these result in very different ways of dealing with life.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:44 AM
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26. Their the same guys who mocked Andys illness and death.
They could give a rats ass about human compassion.

Oh but we do care.... my thing is, why do we have to prove that?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:27 AM
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5. It is sad to think this way, but I suspect
somehow Rimjob will use that thread.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:32 AM
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10. Therefore every act of compassion while the obscenity of Iraq goes on...
is hypocrisy? Sketchy grounds there...
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:34 AM
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16. No fo course not...
but why--- why doesn't the death of one of the kids in Iraq yesterday garner equal sympathy...

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:37 AM
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19. why do you assume it doesn't?
really mean thread.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:40 AM
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23. When was the last time you saw a thread this big
about the death of a soldier in Iraq.

5 dies yesterday and there's barely a peep.

OH---but some say we are exhausted by it all... Please
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:39 AM
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22. Clearly there's racism regarding the Iraqi dead. No question. So..
why not start a thread examining that point without condemning the sympathy shown to the parents of a dead 14 yr old kid?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:32 AM
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11. that's mean and insulting
I send my condolences to that family, and any family who has lost a child, because I have a heart.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:33 AM
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12. It's not about recruitment. It's being human. We're like a little town...
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 09:33 AM by originalpckelly
that's divided by railroad tracks, no one goes on "that" side other than to crow about it. But you know when something awful happens, it shows the deeper feeling both sides have, it still shows that we're Americans first, not Democrats or Republicans.

That's what counts.

Now admittedly, in both sides of town there are people like yourself. The ones who still don't and probably never will get it. They have them as much as we do. Yesterday, I felt sorrow for the lost child. Today, I feel sorrow for your lost humanity.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:37 AM
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20. really well said.
Thank you so much. Political boards on the net are like some bizarro community. We're keenly aware of them. They're keenly aware of us. The divide is large, but when something like the death of a child happens, it's a reminder that we have more in common than that which seperates us.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:34 AM
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14. No one is diminishing the deaths in Iraq, really we're not. I think
we are all exhausted from responding to those threads as they are way too frequent. The death of this child right before the holidays just struck a chord for me and I had no problem expressing that.
I'll remember to check in with you first should anyone need a bit of compassion.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:34 AM
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15. Some things transcend politics...
... this would be one. "Merry Christmas" would be another. I'm not a Christian and I don't want a "state religion" or anything leaning that direction.

But when someone says "Merry Christmas" to me, I hear a person offering well wishes, not someone trying to impose a belief system.

Sometimes, sympathy is just sympathy. I wouldn't wish the lost of a child on my worst enemy.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:35 AM
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17. Start a "Who gives a fuck that some freeper's shit kid died" thread ...
looks like you already did.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:37 AM
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18. God---
OK--- then why did the Op of that thread use the word "Freeper" in the title.

Why? Why not leave it out?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:39 AM
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21. Let me add on that...
That's what bugs me about that thread.

I guess over at Free Republic, they'd start a similar thread saying that a DemocRATS kid was killed.

Who gives a shit if it's a freepers kid. Would the thread have not garnered the hits it did if it wasn't a "freepers" kid?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:44 AM
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27. Heh...now we get to the heart of it
Would the thread have not garnered the hits it did if it wasn't a "freepers" kid?


That amount of replies, recommends and views will be tough to compete with.

:popcorn:

Julie
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:41 AM
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25. And what might the point of this thread be ?
Putting down people who express sorrow about the loss of a child is beyond pathetic





:hurts: :hangover: :dunce: :freak: :argh:

:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:45 AM
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28. Locking.
Flamebait.

Call Me Wesley
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