One of Time's People Who Didn't Matter - Howard Dean

[otohara]

http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2006/people/13.html

[Hissyspit]

1. Amazing, isn't it?

[shance]

2. Oh TIME, you mean the tool of the CIA and Corporate interests......

How that would make sense....

Americans know who represent them. It is not the wealthiest few of the Congress. It is not the wealthiest individuals in Congress, no matter how much they may want to call themselves Democrats.

If they are true Democrats they will govern by listening to their Constituents and not ignoring them like Emmanuel and sadly Pelosi. It is apparent that Nancy Pelosi is the second wealthiest COngressman in office. Does that make a difference? Apparently quite so it does.

Many of us have had an opportunity to achieve money, however their ability has been elevated by their connections and their background. Why is it they are not listening to the AMericans who have sent them to Washington? However some like Governor Dean have.

The classists will out themselves and their true agenda as they are doing. Hopefully they will either wake up or we will vote them out by hopefully fair elections.

[Captain Hilts]

15. Hey, the CIA is just as ticked off at Bush as we are.

WHY do you think Bush dropped all the blame on them?

[illinoisprogressive]

3. the man who visioned 50 state

and helped the dems not just win but, to be a party that mattered again?

[Contrite]

4. Meanwhile, "fond" farewells to

Milosevic
Ken Lay
al-Zarqawi

?

[DeepModem Mom]

5. I think he mattered a great deal. nt

[wiley]

6. and he still does!

[The Traveler]

7. What a quaint notion

that Howard Dean didn't matter. The 50 state strategy seems to have borne at least some positive results.

Yep. It is a sign of respect to ask any citizen, regardless of where they live, for their vote. Of course, if one wants respect, one must be willing to give it. Hopefully, the rest of the Democratic Party leadership has learned that much, at least.

[rpannier]

8. Amazing.

I sent them a letter about it.

And they wonder why I won't renew my subscription to Time Asia.

[EST]

9. Commercial media, both print and broadcast, are almost

constantly bemoaning their deteriorating fortunes and the softening of impact and support among the consumers of their labors.

I have watched many seminars and other public meetings in which they have advanced all sorts of reasons for their own pending demise, usually ending up blaming the public in one convoluted way or another.

This idiotic conclusion is another point in the mounting pile of evidence that they are out of touch and haven't a clue. The most charitable thing I can say about such silliness is that they appear to have gone over the line: rather than acknowledging and reporting the facts, they have gone to attempting to manipulate opinion to support their own ideas and notions of reality.

Although Emanuel was of some importance in in the midterm contests, his high-handedness and gross mistakes, in my opinion, outweighed his reputed successes to the point where we'd have been better off without him or with someone else.

This kind of kowtowing further erodes Times' credibility and does nothing positive for my distaste for Rahm Emanuel.

It is safe to say this latest case of blindness to reality and paucity of investigation will not be financially kind to Time's and adds to the possibilities of Emanuel's unseating-both of which I applaud.

[OneBlueSky]

10. not a surprising (or even unexpected) omission, to be sure . . . n/t

.

[robcon]

11. To me, Dean was only a negative force in 2006.

The 50 state strategy reduced our gains in '06, wasted enormous amounts of precious campaign funds, and made us weaker than we would have been.

Dean was a screw-up, IMO, and it was Schumer/Rahm and the individual congressional candidates who mattered (positively) in 2006.

Misstating the Democratic Party platform, as he pandered to a religious group about gays, was his most egregious verbal screw-up in 2006.

[JNelson6563]

12. Too funny!

:rofl:

I love when ignorance of such incredible depth is unwittingly revealed for all to see.

Keyboard commandoes unite! :patriot:

[madokie]

14. Peace and a merry christmas

[helderheid]

23. I'm cracking up here too!!

Bwahahahahahah!

[Jim Sagle]

24. Chickenshit bullshit.

[rockymountaindem]

28. If it weren't for the 50 state strategy, we'd have been way behind

It's that strategy that made us competative in places like Wyoming and Idaho, as well as in Indiana and elsewhere. You oughta dust off your crystal ball.

[RetroLounge]

38. OMG!

Thanks for displaying such ignorance for all to see.

:rofl:

RL

[dsc]

39. No one is perfect

but Dean was more positive than not. He spent money in Indiana when people thought it was insane to do so. Result we gained three seats and now have a majority of seats in what is usually a GOP bastion. He rebuilt parties in states such as Montana and VA where we picked up two Senate seats. In Ohio, we won a Senate seat, a House seat, and four of the five statewide offices. His help rebuilding Ohio's Democratic party deserves some credit. Conversely we lost a seat we should have won in NC because we didn't think we had a shot. We spent tons of money on Shuler who won but not any on Kissel who lost by less than 300 votes. We did have a unique problem here though, in that one of our incumbents was outspent and needed help too.

[mod mom]

41. In jest, right?

[madokie]

13. I would have to put the turnaround at only one man's feet, Howard Dean

when I say turnaround I don't mean just taking a different road at the next exit I mean turn a round. America was/is headed down the wrong road and through hard work and dedication Howard lead the way. nothing more I can say

[Captain Hilts]

16. I credit GWBush and his rubberstamp congress. nt

[NashVegas]

17. Time: October 2006: " The G.O.P.'s Secret Weapon"

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/17093

Enjoy:

Republican officials estimate that at the end of August, their committees and campaigns had $235 million to spend in the two-month home stretch, a $58 million advantage over Democrats. The R.N.C. plans to lay out more than $60 million on turnout efforts and advertising vs. the more than $14 million set aside by Democratic National Committee (D.N.C.) chairman Howard Dean. Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, who has been critical of Dean's approach, complained at a D.N.C. fund-raising luncheon in Washington last week that the G.O.P. "is pouring tens of millions of dollars into races, and we're not matching that." House Republican officials contend that many of their Democratic challengers are so little known that they could be buried in an ad blitz. "You hit them, and they fold like a house of cards," a strategist said.

Oh, and look! With reporting by Massimo Calabresi/Washington

Wanna guess who wrote the Time blurb you're complaining about?

[WinkyDink]

18. TIME can KMA.

[Crunchy Frog]

19. Fuck TIME.

I haven't bought that fascist rag in years, and at this point, I wouldn't even use it to wipe my bottom.

[leftofthedial]

20. interesting

I hate the Murkan RW. Fucking hate them.

[mdmc]

21. me too

peace and low stress

[peekaloo]

22. Just tells me he must REALLY scare a lot of 'wingers.

Mr. Dean I salute you. :patriot:

[ljm2002]

25. Yeppers...

...as I said on another thread on this topic: the Beltway insiders of either party are scared shitless of populists, they see the mass of people as a mob, not as their bosses. They've been corrupted by the same corporatist, elitist, Beltway-bubble thinking that is a-skeered of the great unwashed. Probably most of them attended private elite prep schools.

Enter Dr. Dean and the 50-state strategy (and don't forget Moveon.org, who led the way in fundraising via the Internet -- Dean was smart enough to see that as an effective fundraising method).

Let 'em delude themselves. We've already seen wakeup call #1. There will be more.

[robcon]

26. The TIME article illustrates why Dean was a screw-up.

His 'strategy' was incredibly wasteful. We could have been dominant in Congress.

[Jim Sagle]

29. Chickenshit bullshit.

[Contrite]

30. This has been debunked.

In fact, the record shows we would have lost seats otherwise.

[jilln]

33. How can you tell?

I'm not being sarcastic - I've read opinions that go both ways and I don't know how you can tell what would have happened without Dean.

I think it's very important to know what works and my personal impression is that Dean is doing a good job, but I really don't know how to measure it with all the other factors involved. Can you elaborate a little?

[Contrite]

34. Read this

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2006/11/how-rahm-failed-just-facts-analysis-of.html

Here's a snip:

Summary: The DCCC strategy of race targetting did NOT spend dollars efficiently. If it had been the dominant investment pattern, the House may not have gone for the Dems. A big "thank you" is needed to Howard Dean's DNC and all the other groups that pushed for the 50 state strategy to expand the competive races and keep them alive for the duration. (BTW, Chuck Schumer has come out and publicly thanked Dean for his strategy, saying that he was right and it was a good thing that he persevered...)

[jgraz]

31. Rahm, is that you?

Go check out the actual election results. You may come to a different conclusion. Then again, probably not.

[MisterP]

27. two failures vs. one success: obviously, the war pigs must be

twice as influentual!

[otherlander]

32. ...

EVERYONE'S the person of the year!!.... except you.

[Quantess]

35. Howard Dean is greeaat!

[Hidden Stillness]

36. Dean is the Greatest--A True Leader

Well, I guess I will reply to this thread after all--this was so outrageous, and so typical for the now totally cut-off corporate media, that I was going to ignore it. Howard Dean is the reason why the Democratic Party is returning to its rightful place as the majority Party, which it will again be. It was done not by "running away from liberals" or other disgusting "D"LC, Inc. tactic, but by fighting back, and making the middle class and the poor the center of policy again. The Democrats, under the infiltration of the Republican/corporate lobbying group "D"LC, Inc., had gotten so remote and so unlike the citizenry, that it never referred to our concerns, turned everything to tax cuts for businesses, and cut poor people off welfare just like their Republican donors--completely unrepresentative of us. That era is over.

There was a Democratic National Committee policy meeting a few weeks ago, shown on C-SPAN, telling some of the things they had done the past year, and featuring a couple of speeches from new members of Congress, who will start this January. One was somebody I had never heard of, who was hugely impressive to me during a debate carried by C-SPAN, Wahl, (I think it was Tim Wahl), of Minnesota--very likable, really smart, and tough against Republican policies; the way we used to be. There were discussions of upgrades to the DNC website, including a whole new section for social/political organizers to use for resources. Discussions about how now, there will be paid staff, with offices, available year-round, for people in every part of the country to contact--unlike when the "D"LC "ran" it, and bizarrely killed the whole National organization. (Remember their "brilliant" idea to have John Kerry only campaign in 20 States, and no others, and their "brilliant" idea not to criticize Bush and Cheney at the 2004 Convention? They lost.)

Donations are way up, especially from the people of the country themselves, and the opinion people have of us has been rising ever since Dean took over, while they have been fleeing the corrupt Republicans by the millions. Dean is the greatest thing to happen to our Democratic Party for a generation--and we are back.

[mdmc]

37. I like Dean too...

HOWARD!!

[mod mom]

40. Corporate media trying to choose our leaders. Emmanuel? MAKE ME PUKE!

[mdmc]

42. kick

:patriot: