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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:51 PM
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Rapist Checklist
1. You are a rapist if you get a girl drunk and have sex with her.

2. You are a rapist if you find a drunk girl and have sex with her.

3. You are a rapist if you get yourself drunk and have sex with her. Your drunkeness is no excuse.

4. If you are BOTH drunk you may still be a rapist.

5. If she's alternating between puking her guts out and passing out in the bed then you're a rapist.

6. If she's sleeping and you have sex with her you're a rapist.

7. If she's unconscious and you have sex with her then you're a rapist.

8. If she's taking sleeping pills and doesn’t wake up when you have sex with her then you’re a rapist.

9. If she is incapacitated in any way and unable to say 'Yes' then you're a rapist.

10. If you drug her then you're a rapist.

11. If you find a drugged girl and have sex with her then you're a rapist.

12. If you don't bother to ask her permission and she says neither 'Yes' or 'No' then you could be a rapist.

13. You are a rapist if you 'nag' her for sex. Because you manage to ply an eventual 'yes' from a weary victim doesn't mean it's not rape. You are a rapist.

14. You are a rapist if you try to circumvent her "No" by talking her into it. She's not playing hard to get, and, even if she IS it's not YOUR responsibility to 'get' her. You're still a rapist.

15. You are a rapist if you manipulate her into sex when she doesn't otherwise want it. If you say, "If you loved me you’d do X" then you're a rapist. If you say, "All the other kids are doing it!" then you're a rapist.

16. If you threaten her, or act in a way that SHE thinks you're threatening her then you're a rapist. If you puff up and get loud and frustrated while trying to 'talk' her into sex then you're a rapist.

17. You are a rapist if you don't immediately get your hands off of her when she says 'no'. You are a rapist if you take your hands off of her and then put them back ON her after 10 minutes and she eventually 'gives in' to this tactic.

18. You are a rapist if you won't let her sleep peacefully without waking her every 15 minutes asking her for sex. Sleep depravation is a form of torture and YOU are a rapist.

19. If you're necking with her and you're naked and you've already gone down on her and she says 'No' to sex with you and you have sex with her anyway then you're a rapist.

20. If you're engaged in intercourse and she says 'No' at ANY point and you don't immediately stop then you're a rapist.

21. If she said "Yes" to sex with a condom and that condom breaks and you proceed anyway then you're a rapist.

22. If she picked you up at a bar looking for sex and then decides that she doesn't WANT sex and you continue then you're a rapist.

23. If she changes her mind at ANY point for ANY reason and you don't immediately back off or you try to talk her into it and get sex anyway then you're a rapist.

24. If you don't hit her and she says 'No' you're still a rapist.

25. If you don't have a knife or a gun or a garrote and she says 'No' then you're still a rapist.

26. If you're a friend of hers you can still be a rapist.

27. If you had sex with her the night before but she doesn't want morning sex and you pressure her for it anyway then you're a rapist.

28. If you're her husband you can still be a rapist.

29. If it's your wedding night and she doesn't WANT to have sex with you and you force or coerce her anyway then you're a rapist.

30. If she's had sex with you hundreds of times before but doesn't want to on the 101st time then you're a rapist.

31. If you penetrate her anally, orally or digitally against her will then YOU my friend, are ALSO a rapist.

32. Women do not owe you sex.

33. Buying her dinner does not entitle you to sex.

34. Paying her mortgage does not entitle you to sex.

35. Buying her clothing does not entitle you to sex.

36. Buying her lingerie does not entitle you to sex. It also doesn't mean that she has any obligation to wear that lingerie around you.

37. Spending any amount of money on her does not, ever, entitle you to sex.

38. Seeing her legs or cleavage does not entitle you to sex.

39. If she 'turns you on' you're not entitled to sex.

40. If she has fucked every man in a 10 square mile radius and she doesn't want to fuck you and you have sex with her anyway, then you're a rapist.

41. Her clothing is not a reason for you to rape her. Her LACK of clothing is no reason to rape her. If she's wearing a thong and pasties you STILL have no right to rape her.

42. If she's a prostitute and she says "No" then you're a rapist.

43. If she's a stripper and she says "No" then you're a rapist. Likewise, if she's a stripper and she's been rubbing against your dick all night long and you follow her to her car and have sex with her against her will then you are ALSO a rapist.

44. If you watch a woman being raped without calling the authorities then you're as bad as a rapist and you may also be a rapist yourself.

45. If you don't fight rape then you accept rape.

46. If you don't believe a woman when she says she was raped then you're encouraging rape.

47. If you choose to remain friends with a man who raped a woman you are encouraging rape.

48. If you confess to the authorities that you raped a woman it does not exonerate you. You are not suddenly a model of good behavior.

49. If you ‘only’ raped one woman, you’re STILL a rapist.

50. You cannot tell who is a rapist by the way they look. Rapists are your friends, your brothers, your fathers and you won't know it.

51. Do not get frustrated with a woman if she doesn't trust you. SHE already knows that rapists don't wear signs on their foreheads. Something you think is innocuous SHE may find terrifying.

http://www.pkblogs.com/bitingbeaver/2006/10/repost-of-old-favorite.html
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:52 PM
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1. ?
:wtf:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:56 PM
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2. no shit
:wtf:
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:57 PM
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3. A definite WTF applies here
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 02:58 PM by Lucky Luciano
Drugging a girl to the point of unconsciousness and having sex with her is rape...but a lot of this is definite manure.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:01 PM
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7. No clue mang...outta left field
It starts off a little stupid: those first ones (a couple of days ago, I guess I drunkenly 'raped' my drunken wife...then we celebrated with nicotine...)

The later stuff is undeniably rape. No arguement there.

but in general: WTF?!?!?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:17 PM
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22. well you've just incriminated yourself then
"28. If you're her husband you can still be a rapist."

Please post your home and work addresses so I can send the authorities to apprehend you immediately. You are a menace to society.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:26 PM
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25. Do you think the celebrating the 'rape' with snuggles and a toxic substance
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:28 PM by YOY
might extend the list of charges?

Ironically, I think my wife 'instigated' this one...with massive amounts of making out (among other things not to be mentioned unless I am under oath...) Perhaps Bill O'Reiley can give me one of his "She was asking for it." lines.

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:58 PM
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4. Well, what do you say to this?
Could this also be a "Women, remain single and fearful of the predatory male species at ALL cost" checklist as well?

:wtf:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:00 PM
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5. new jeff foxworthyesque routine?
if you drug a girL, and have sex with her... you might be a rapist.

if you drug a boy, and have sex with him... you might be a rapist.

but don't worry, in either case the system is usuaLLy stacked in your favor if either actuaLLy report it.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:12 PM
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17. well said, sniffa eom
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:01 PM
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6. I'll make it a wtf trifecta
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:15 PM by Rude Horner
:wtf:

I'm not condoning rape, but some of these definitions are way out there. What, because I asked my wife for sex and she gave in, I'm a rapist? Puh-leeze. Christ, with that definition, you could lock up 90% of the husbands on Earth.

And just for the record, my wife has told me honestly that she usually doesn't get in the mood herself, but is always glad afterwards that I talked her into it because she enjoys it.
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Ellis Wyatt Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:02 PM
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8. bollocks
I get the point, but there are some of these that are pretty extreme.

If either party is drunk, it's rape? Okay..............
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:03 PM
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9. the original poster says this post always pisses off the men - looks like it is working

"Now this post in particular really pissed off a bunch of people at the time and it continues to do so. I re-read it again this morning trying to see if I saw it in a different light now so many months after the original posting. It read the same as it did the day I posted it and made just as much sense to me.

However, you all would be amazed if you saw the sheer number of men who get ragingly pissed off by this post. For that reason alone I thought that it was worth reposting so today I'm copying it to this new post, just because I think it'll be alot of fun to visit memory lane. "
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:10 PM
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15. where's this from?
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:27 PM
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26. There is a link at the end to someones blog
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:11 PM
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16. If you'd be so attentive, you'd notice the 'WTF's are coming from both genders
n/t
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:30 PM
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30. I think the WTFs are 9 out of 10 male
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:33 PM
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32. Yep
I posted the first WTF? and I'm female.

And I reiterate...:wtf:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:36 PM
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35. As is AZDemDist6, the second WTF
Or so I recall...
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:12 PM
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18. Well I'm a woman and while I'm not pissed off
I would take issue with many of those definitions. Come on, are we supposed to play victim ALL the time???

If the condom breaks and the guy keeps going he's an asshole, not a rapist. :eyes:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:17 PM
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21. Isn't it obvious that being male in and of itself invalidates their opinion?
Unless it's in agreement, of course.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:32 PM
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31. "Ragingly pissed off?" Hardly...
Annoyed, most certainly, but arrogance and stupidity tend to do that to me no matter which side of the political aisle you sit in...

Sure, there are some valid nuggets in there, but a crap-apple pie might be made with some mighty good apples, but that doesn't make the crap any more nutritional.

I save my pissed off-edness for more important issues than some ignorant attention whoring post.

By the way, that last sentence is "disdain", not anger.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:04 PM
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10. Have you been to a therapist?
It seems like you might benefit from it.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:05 PM
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11. "This Message Brought to You by the Necrophilia Society of North America"
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:07 PM
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12. This is trying to make absolutes where there are none
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:10 PM by Taverner
Rape is case by case...

By these definitions, if a couple is role-playing a rape scene (this does happen), and she says no as part of the role play (not the safe word but just no), and he proceeds that would be defined as rape.

Therein lies the problem with absolutes
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:08 PM
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13. Under these criteria
I was probably raped more times than I can count. Good thing I'm not of a litigious mindset.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:09 PM
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14. deleted
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:16 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:14 PM
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19. It's obvious all of this is true because ...
... everyone knows that women only tolerate sexual intercourse, at most. After all copulation is something that a man does to a woman and almost never with a woman. It is only by remaining ceilbate that a man can avoid being a rapist - and then it's no guarantee.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:15 PM
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20. If you are having sex with a girl
and I define "girl" as a female below the age of consent, it can be considered statutory rape, no matter what the circumstances are. And if the girl is, say, under 10, then it is child molestation.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:19 PM
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23. LOOK OUT EVERYONE!!!!
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Seattleman Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:23 PM
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24. This kind of nonsense drives people with common sense away
from voting for Democrats. When this kind of brain-dead thinking becomes mainstream thought, we will be out of power for a very long time.
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:35 PM
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33. Welcome to DU, Seattleman
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:35 PM by Rude Horner
:hi:

Based on the responses to this post, I don't think the list is a very representative view of most Democrats.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:28 PM
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27. Thats not a very well written or thought out list, but I applaud the effort.

Its really very simple, if you doesn't have consent to have sex, don't be surprised if the other person says you raped her/him.
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zappa_parappa Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:28 PM
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28. woo hoo, im a rapist.
go me
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:35 PM
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34. And I've been raped. Excuse me while I dial 911
:eyes:
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zappa_parappa Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:39 PM
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37. Hand me the phone, I'll dial..
i'd love to hear you explain this to them.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:28 PM
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29. Someone on their righteous tear really didn't bother to think #31 all the way
through.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:40 PM
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38. How so?
Seriously - I'm curious what you're going for here. (The use of "my friend"?) Asking because at least this one used the qualifier "against her will"...

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:38 PM
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36. It's her wedding night and she doesn't want to have sex.....
Okay, forcing her is a bad thing, but how often do you suppose this happens?

I mean what is the point of this?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:41 PM
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39. Locked.
All in all, this is flamebait.
Thanks.
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