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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:02 PM
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OMG! Did you know there was a Middle East connection to the OKC Bombing?
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:02 PM by originalpckelly
Will be on FOX News in a few minutes. I'm curious to see how far they'll go with this.

Tim McVeigh = Republican, not Muslim
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:03 PM
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1. They've been pushing this BS for years
Saying McVeigh had an Iraqi connection....

Thing is that was all speculation
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:24 PM
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12. I must be true.
After all, a good right-winger like Tim wouldn't do anyting like that unless corrupted and seduced by the Axis of (non-white) Evil. It can't be Tim's fault.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:23 PM
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20. My Republicker acquaintance thinks the Japanese suicide cult was involved, too
He's the same guy who said that Clinton had United Nations troops hidden in our National Parks (and lately denies ever saying it).

Republickers are nutz.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:03 PM
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2. Here's what the connection is:
McVeigh: terrorist.
Some Middle Eastern men: terrorists.

Fox News: terrorists.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:05 PM
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3. Seems to me that this was tried a few years ago as well
I could have sworn that back in the '90's, there were some conspiracy theorists, er, researchers, er, experts that were saying something about a middle east/muslim connection to the Murrah Building bombings. No matter what, there will always be those who believe it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:23 PM
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11. Its kind of like Holocaust Deniers
Despite all the evidence in the world, they still find it hard to believe that an aryan boy would do so much damage...
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:06 PM
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4. It may be part true...
there was a piece that the FBI did not investigate all the connections to McVeigh and one of the connections is from the Philippines (as I remember) where he got the formula for the bomb.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:09 PM
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5. I'd say this is to counteract the articles
critical of the FBI that have come out recently. It seems from them that McVeigh had contacts with Germans and possibly neo-Nazis.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:14 PM
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6. I don't know what to believe on that one -
It is alleged that in firsthand accounts that McVeigh was seen in the van with someone else, that unidentifiable body parts were found at the scene, the issue of how would someone like him have the know-how/expertise to successfully carry out something like that, the rental car attendants saw him at the rental place with another man, etc. those sorts of riddles.

Anyway, I'm not sure how this crime all happened, and because McVeigh was executed, we will probably never know for sure.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:17 PM
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7. I believe the person most responsible for this theory
is a lady named Jayna Davis. She was a reporter in OKC at that time.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:19 PM
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8. This is thr reason the DOD and the FBI never completed their investigations....
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nomo Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:20 PM
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9. Nooooooo!
Not our Timothy!!

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:21 PM
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10. They are pulling that canard again?
Free clue Fox, your answer is in the Turner Diaries, and trust me, Al Qaida or Iraq had nothing to do with them.

Oh and McVeigh's connection, he served wiht the First Infantry Division in '91 on them sands.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:32 PM
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13. look over there----it`s the brown people!
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:33 PM by madrchsod
no this was a white guy/guys from the state of michigan and with a little help from thier friends, blew the shit out the building and killed a lot people with explosives that were made here in the usa. no it was`t the furners'that killed americans it was the aryan nation
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:36 PM
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14. Tim McVeigh
got exactly what he deserved. I thought what should have been his sentence would be to build a cell isolated from the main building, told that one day in the future his "cell" was going to be blown up. As for the Middle Eastern connection, like others have said here, :thumbsdown:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:47 PM
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15. Blame: Clinton, FISA, FBI IMPLY: foreign suspects
PRAISE: Patriot Act and recent funding of FBI.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 04:30 PM
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16. So what did they say?
I've recently heard that there was a connection between McVeigh and white supremest groups that the FBI never fully investigated.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:20 PM
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18. Post #15 is a quick summary...
they're talking about a government report which will come out soon on this subject. If I find it, I'll post it in GD then.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:52 PM
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22. Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:32 PM
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24. Oh no, that's the real summary.
No fucking joke.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:40 PM
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25. I guess I shouldn't assume that Fox would even make an attempt at being
a real news network
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:19 PM
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17. What really needs to be investigated about the OKC
bombing is the funding behind McVeigh and his supporters. McVeigh rambled around the country without a job after failing to get into special forces, yet had sufficient money and could buy the provisions he needed for the bombing.
Who is funding these people? The defrocked minister who killed a doctor and his bodyguard in Florida didn't have a job for years. But was able to show up on a daily basis to protest at a clinic. Who was paying his rent?
And the Swiftboat Liars for Hire are professionals hitmen. This is how they earn their living...travelling around the country (not on their own dime) to show up and spout lies against whoever is targeted by their masters. If it's John McCain running against Dubya for the party nomination, say McCain betrayed his soldiers as a POW. Imply he has a mixed race child out of wedlock. Neither are true, but, hey, this is how the paycheck is earned.
So, who was floating McVeigh? Where was his money coming from and what groups were supporting him?
The same folks who pushed Paula Jones into the limelight? Or Gennifer Flowers? Or Linda Tripp?
The same folks who paid for Paula's plastic surgery...and Linda's?
The same folks who made Jeff Gannon into an instant journalist...or, as Sean Hannity referred to him, "distinguished journalist", when his real job was male prostitute?
We still don't know who Gannon was visiting at the White House at 3 am.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:21 PM
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19. The "Patriot Movement" has been trying to deflect the blame "Eastward" from day one.
The right-wing has been trying to blame it on everyone from mid-east Muslims to the Japanese suicide cult-- anything except the truth, that Conservative Christian Republicans did it.

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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:26 PM
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21. Yeah, Laurie Mylorie from AEI has been pushing this forever. n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:30 PM
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23. Laurie Mylroie - "Armchair Provocateur". Good read.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.bergen.html

Peter Bergen nails her as a nutcase obsessed with Saddam. Well, actually she was for Saddam before she was against him....

Historians will be debating that question for years, but an important part of the reason has to do with someone you may well have never heard of: Laurie Mylroie. Mylroie has an impressive array of credentials that certify her as an expert on the Middle East, national security, and, above all, Iraq. She has held faculty positions at Harvard and the U.S. Naval War College and worked at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, as well as serving as an advisor on Iraq to the 1992 Clinton presidential campaign. During the 1980s, Mylroie was an apologist for Saddam's regime, but reversed her position upon his invasion of Kuwait in 1990, and, with the zeal of the academic spurned, became rabidly anti-Saddam. In the run up to the first Gulf War, Mylroie with New York Times reporter Judith Miller wrote Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf, a well-reviewed bestseller translated into more than a dozen languages.

Until this point, there was nothing controversial about Mylroie's career. This would change with the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, the first act of international terrorism within the United States, which would launch Mylroie on a quixotic quest to prove that Saddam's regime was the most important source of terrorism directed against this country. She laid out her case in Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against America, a book published by AEI in 2000 which makes it clear that Mylroie and the neocon hawks worked hand in glove to push her theory that Iraq was behind the '93 Trade Center bombing. Its acknowledgements fulsomely thanked John Bolton and the staff of AEI for their assistance, while Richard Perle glowingly blurbed the book as "splendid and wholly convincing." Lewis "Scooter" Libby, now Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, is thanked for his "generous and timely assistance." And it appears that Paul Wolfowitz himself was instrumental in the genesis of Study of Revenge: His then-wife is credited with having "fundamentally shaped the book," while of Wolfowitz, she says: "At critical times, he provided crucial support for a project that is inherently difficult."
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