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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 02:42 AM Original message |
Stop trying to tell me Gerald Ford was a good, decent man. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. Amen to that. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #176 |
206. Abe Lincoln? Vietnam? C'mon here. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Exactly. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. Good points |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. Absolutely agree. Thank you for this post. |
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MarinCoUSA (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'am with SD all the way on this Ford bullsh*t. |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
6. It PISSES me off so much |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. Oatmeal Man |
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bluescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
61. I Beg your Pardon, America |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
200. Thanks for posting that. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'm not gonna lionize him now that he's dead |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Gerald Ford Repented of His Pardon of Nixon! |
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Jim Lane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Did he say that in public? or is this just rumor? |
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OffWithTheirHeads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. Fuck the rivisionists! |
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brentblack (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. What??? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #175 |
181. Actually April of 1975. BTW, at the Ford Library and |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
194. Wow.....those are some pretty strong words for someone who |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. Can't argue with ANY of this. I remember feeling so incredibly |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
218. Yes, it was a lesson learned by way too |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. Thanks for posting this. Hearing the announcement |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. But.... |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. only the good die young,and Ford proves it. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Not when they aid and abet murderers, it isn't. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Respect is fine. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
48. bull. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
114. You should go back into the archives and read the posts about Reagan. |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
13. but don't you LIKE the okaying of a wiretapping, thug- and burglar-hiring, |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. It's appalling to see the ignorance. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
123. isn't it possible that he was able to show some type of |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #123 |
158. Yeah, nice precedent there, the law doesn't apply to Presidents... |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #158 |
165. I think that the law does apply to presidents |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. Impeachment is for REMOVAL from OFFICE so they CAN be prosecuted! |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #170 |
233. no, it isn't |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
203. The ignorance will allow future Fords and Nixons in. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
17. Gerald Ford was a good, decent man. |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Anybody under the age of 40 doesn't really remember him |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
73. Many older than 40 don't waste much time trying to remember him |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Except for the SNL skit Chevy Chase did, there wasn't much to remember |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
110. *I'm* 31, and even I'm not falling for the bullshit whitewashing of this guy. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. You make a good argument to support John Dean's reasons why |
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corkhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
20. He'd have to be the third coming; Raygun was the 2nd according to the corporate press |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. I don't suffer fools gladly anymore. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
22. Unfortunately we'll have to put up with it all day. |
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corkhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
72. the two biggest lies being catapulted by the corporate media: |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. Some kind of way they will try to swing... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. Ted Kennedy Thought He Was |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
49. and he was dead ass wrong. nt |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
144. I'll second that |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
24. i'm not sure he could hold his own with the garbage that now is repub party nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. You bet. Fuck that. nt |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
26. great rant and reality check |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
27. But Tokyo Rose was actually innocent. NPR did a long piece about it. n/t |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
119. Can't let facts get in the way of a good rant |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
214. Thank you- I am very busy and don't have time for a longer reply... |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
28. You are exactly correct..and there's even more. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
50. what an era, is right! and we're repeating it, magnified, now. |
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thingfisher (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
118. Indeed! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. THANK YOU. I never thought DEMOCRATS would don rose-colored glasses for these guys. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
147. They are acting like their leaders |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
30. What I'm thinking . . . |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
31. Thank you, Jerry Ford. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
32. Ford also led the Impeachment hearings against Supreme Ct. Justice William Douglas |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I remember Jackie Kennedy going to see "I Am Curious Yellow" |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
87. Amazing. The things I learn on this website |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #153 |
159. Counting down, 10, 9, 8, 7..... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
89. Thanks for this important point |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
155. William O. Douglas is an American hero. |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
33. Agreed. n/t |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
34. Thanks for setting the record straight |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
35. AMEN! |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
36. Hmmm.... |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
177. And he wasn't elected in 2004 either! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
37. Thanks Steve. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
39. Just turn the shit off. My ears and eyes can't take it. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
40. And he played for U of M. That's all you need to know. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
150. He went to Michigan? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. Yup. He played football and was an All-American. |
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wizstars (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
41. don't forget the slimewad tried to impeach Wm. O. Douglas... |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
42. AMEN--especially that closing line. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
44. What Steve Said! |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
45. Ford was on Warren Commission - lied to the nation about JFK murder |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. ... and that's exactly why Nixon appointed him VP ... |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
95. No. Nixon needed a sure 'pardon' |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. Same difference ... |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
46. Crap, I already recommended this, I wanna rec it again. |
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In Truth We Trust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
47. Ford was a Warren Commission Stooge and appointed Poppy to CIA. nuff said k&r |
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freefall (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. Thank you, SD. K&R |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
54. Ford administration blooded Bush stalwarts |
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IWantAChange (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
56. I'm glad to see that DUer's haven't lost their edge after Xmas and |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
57. Great piece. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
58. K&R Very powerful reminder, extremely well said!!! |
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Sperk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
59. agree completely. I'm so sick of this "healing the nation" and "for the |
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emald (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
60. Completely agree with your post |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
64. Gerald Ford was a good, decent man. |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Infinitely better than Carter was. I so wish I could take that |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. Um... |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
162. You "so" do huh? |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
215. And Ill bet you like |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
219. Excuse me, but... |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
65. I think for the most part |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
66. Gerald Ford was possibly one of the most evil and murderous |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. Pay no attention to those rotting corpses in East Timor |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
234. Who's 'you'? |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
67. ever heard the comment |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
103. eh, i think that's fine for private citizens, but we are dealing with the leftovers of |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
104. Sugarcoat it, Swallow the lies |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
134. Why? They can't hear us, then! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
68. Amen to that. The MSM seems to want to heal the nation BUT |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
69. Can we add Chile and Pinochet |
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mconvente (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. fuck yeah |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
71. What's all this BS about Chewney & Runny "cut their teeth" in Fords Admin? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
74. You forgot - Ford was on the Warren Commission, happily rubber-stamping |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
160. I do wish I had mentioned that |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. If you can't say anything nice about a person.. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. Canonization of Ford |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
76. Ford was on the Warren Commission - he was "just a bag boy for the boys downtown" |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. Exactly! Ford was j.Edgar Hoover's stooge planted in the warren commission! |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
77. two thumbs up |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
78. But He Was A Good Decent Man. But Ok, I Digress. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
105. Way to mischaracterize the OP |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #78 |
106. I have a big sloppy lugie for him. nt |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
79. Are you not aware that all Presidents pardon unsavory |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. AGREE |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. :-) |
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Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. What a load of bs |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
125. Indeed, it was great for conservatives. |
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Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #125 |
141. It is obvious isn't it? |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
164. Will you BACK UP YOUR BULLSHIT? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
166. It's not over. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
187. Only from a republican perspective. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
85. The only reason Ford was chosen by Nixon was for the guranteed pardon, no truth in amerika anymore! |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
91. text book examples of fallacy |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #91 |
127. "That's all you've got." - you clearly DIDN'T read the OP. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #127 |
152. great, since Ford is responsible for all the evil in the world |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #152 |
171. Just one question... |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #171 |
189. where did I defend any of them? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #152 |
190. Let's just break this down... |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #190 |
211. well... |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #91 |
168. I don't hate dead men. Please post your defense. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
94. Well I was about 4 or 5 when he became President and I've never been impressed. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
96. Rest in Peace, Mr. Ford. |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
128. Ditto |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
212. THANKS |
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ochazuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
97. Kooky Roberts |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. i used to idolize her -- what the hell was wrong with me? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #101 |
130. "you can't heal until you CLEAN the wound" - fantastic way to phrase it. |
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thingfisher (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #97 |
120. Cokie's just reinforcing the official history for the masses. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
98. My ex-Nixon repub parents were FURIOUS at the pardon. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. I completely agree... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #98 |
145. My ex-Nixon repub dad was pleased with the pardon |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
102. Ford "served"on the Warren Commission and |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
107. Thank you Steve; you speak for me, too. |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. How about when he gave amnesty to the draft avoiders |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. I wonder how those in East Timor felt about that? |
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beth9999 (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
108. Agreed. The man was a Repug... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
111. Couldn't agree more. I'm sure Ford was loved by friends and family. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
112. WHO CARES |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Why is he being discussed? Are you kidding? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #112 |
133. Well, for those of us who oppose the b*s* administration, he was like PNAC's loving uncle. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
116. Gerald Ford brought us Cheney and Rumsfeld - Enough Said.... |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
121. Hallelujah and Amen |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #121 |
136. Dude, I'm 31 years old. There is NO excuse for the ignorance, if even *I* know what he did! |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #136 |
156. Agreed, but I ain't no dude |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
122. Bravo. Recommending. |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
124. Dude, the guy just died. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #124 |
135. Please explain how telling the truth about Ford's actions is "grave dancing". |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. One shouldn't speak ill of the recently departed... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #138 |
157. Gods forbid that we, oh, I don't know, offend a dead guy... |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. The gods forbid nothing. But if you insist on appearing petty, by all means... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #163 |
172. Yes, because uttering false platitudes instead of honesty on an anonymous message board |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. Being petty my ass! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #138 |
185. If telling the truth about his wrongs is "speaking ill", oh fucking well. |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. To everything, there is a season... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #186 |
195. Show me where I did that. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #124 |
174. I'm not dancing on his grave |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #174 |
210. I think I'll just follow Jimmy Carter's lead on this. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
126. I thought Ford was a "good, decent man" but a mediocre president |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
129. er...ok. |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
132. There is NO SUCH THING as a good Repug |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. Everything is either black or white, ain't it? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
148. Ummm, Lincoln was a Republican |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #148 |
169. and Booth shouted "Sic Semper Tyranis" as he fled the scene |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #148 |
180. In Lincoln's day Republicans were the Democrats. Check it out. (eom) |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. Agreed. But Bushout06 made no such distinctions |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 08:23 AM Response to Reply #182 |
228. Maybe I should have thrown in "nowadays" |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
137. Good point. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
140. Thank you for saying what needed to be said |
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southern_belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
142. I'm with you in this one n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
143. Ford sucked ass. |
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MidnightWind (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
146. They say you're known by the company you keep |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
149. Had Ford possessed a crystal ball and foresaw what you say |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
151. Deleted message |
stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #151 |
178. Mods, please don't delete this post. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
161. excellent post |
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forintegrity (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
179. So right, but we'll not hear a word of it cuz |
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2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
183. Iva Toguri D'Aquino was pardoned because she was NOT one of the "Tokyo Roses" |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. Thank you for that information |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
184. Deleted message |
Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #184 |
193. heh..I was just on that page, trying to make a sensible post out of that, |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
191. Oh let's at least be honest when it comes to the pardon. We all know |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. NO IT ISN'T, its an endorsement of the idea that Presidents are ABOVE the LAW! |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. amen, and I'll be first in line at President Pelosi's grave if she dares |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. I don't think she would do that... |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #196 |
201. It's not the correct comparison because she is a DEMOCRAT and |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #192 |
198. Can I just say that when Clinton and/or Carter go, it won't stop honest discussion of their records |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #198 |
205. I believe we should be a country ruled by law and justice... |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #192 |
199. I didn't say presidents are above the law....I'm saying a Democratic |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. Never said, myself, that Democrats are magically immune to political posturing and backslapping. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #191 |
217. No. Were you absent during the Constitional civics lesson on Clinton's blow job? |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
202. Off to hell to join Nixon and Reagan. |
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Coloradan4Truth (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
207. Gerald Ford did NOTHING good for this nation |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
208. No. Gerald Ford was a good, decent man. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #208 |
231. Who pardoned Nixon and protected Pinochet. |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
209. Happy to K&R. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
213. You're entitled to your opinion |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
216. Meh. Republicans are lionizing him |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
220. Well, considering what we are dealing with now-- |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
221. Here's why Steve's post is so important - EXECUTIVE CODDLING |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #221 |
222. Perfectly said. He laid the foundation of the mess we have now. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:32 AM Response to Reply #222 |
225. And a very compassionate wife.... |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-27-06 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
223. Damn Right...thanx and |
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Hailtothechimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
224. Well said. |
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Nostradammit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
226. Fuck Gerald R. Ford with a cactus |
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Scott Neelan (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
227. With Hindsight Comes Clarity |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #227 |
229. Good first post. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #227 |
235. Thanks, and I agree 100% |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
230. Great post 100% correct n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
232. ttt |
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