Ford felt he would go to hell when he dies

[Gman]

Hunter S Thompson wrote upon Nixxon' death:

"Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon."

http://liberalavenger.com/2005/02/hunter-s-thompson-on-nixons-death.html

[whistle]

1. Ho ho gonzo!

[pitohui]

2. well i'm sure he's correct

his theology is good at least, sell your soul for power in this world and you burn in the next, i'm sure he's crispy even as we speak

[pnwmom]

12. Nasty response, and wrong.

Christian theology allows for repentance. Nobody knows the state of another person's soul.

[pitohui]

15. we know that ford was never sorry and never repented

there was no going thru the 12 steps and making amends to those he had harmed, to the end of his days ford held to the "right man" attitude that he did the right thing and that it was perfectly a-okay to pardon a criminal before any open trial so that the public could discover the full extent of the crimes

i read an interview w. ford at age 91 in esquire magazine where he was still unapologetic for pardoning nixon

what he did set us where we are today -- it sent the lesson that since powerful republicans will not be held accountable, they might as well do as they please and fill their pockets

if you want to enable or excuse that, fine, but i'm not quite sure why we are doing fox news' work for them

there comes a point where it is a little ridiculous to make excuses for the man, sure, maybe he finally felt bad about what he had done in the closing moments of his life, but if god forgives a man who did 93 years of evil and only focuses on an easy prayer for forgiveness at the last moment of the man's life then you know what? fuck god, he doesn't deserve my respect because a goldfish has a better grasp on what is good, true, and just

i'll forgive a man like george wallace who spent his final days doing the hard work of going to the black churches and preaching that he had been wrong and done wrong and truly humbling himself

i will not forgive or forget the man who did great evil and never even bothered w. a moment's doubt or regret

[pnwmom]

22. We know nothing about Ford's relationship with God at the end of his life.

And, in Christian theology, that is what ultimately matters.

I don't think any of us are so perfect we should be wishing him to be in hell now.

Remember the Lord's Prayer?

"and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. . . . "

[roguevalley]

23. I read a story told by a friend of his that outlines Ford's character.

He was having friends to lunch at a country club and asked Ford to come over and say hi to them. Ford said, sure, for $10,000. His friend gulped and said alright. The day came and the friend saw Ford in the doorway. He walked to him and was accosted by Ford who wanted the money now. After a brief exchanged, his friend handed it over, shocked. Only then would Ford come over and shake hands and speak briefly. That's Gerald Ford.

[Taxloss]

3. That's the great thing about religion.

The way it's such a source of comfort. :sarcasm:

If he was that tortured by guilt, it sounds as though he was in hell before he died. How very sad.

[karlrschneider]

4. I have known fear...and loathing.

Occasionally at the same moment.

[Joanne98]

5. Good catch. K&R!

[WI_DEM]

6. I don't put a whole lot of 'faith' in that statement

[sarcasmo]

7. I wonder if Bush and his father both feel this way.

Kick for the truth from the horses mouth.

[GrumpyGreg]

8. Oh for heaven's sake----this sounds like lil old lady gossiping !

[pitohui]

9. was hunter thompson a little old lady?

is gossip bad?

or is talking about people the way we discover what we think about human nature?

[cali]

10. I knew Hunter

I liked him, but no doubt he was an incredible gossip, and more than capable of making up an apocryphal tale to illustrate a point.

[pitohui]

14. i guess what i'm saying is i don't see anything wrong w. gossip

gossiping about your next door neighbor, okay, that is a problem

gossiping about celebrities is how we discover what we think about human weakness and human nature, w.out hurting that neighbor we would have gossiped about in medieval times

i don't think it's wrong for hunter to have gossiped about mr ford

in any case, the theology is right, if ford did believe, he must have known that the price of selling one's soul for earthly power is hell -- on the other hand i do tend to assume that he (like most powerful men) only pretended to believe because that is what is required of us to hold power in america

[msongs]

11. hey if the jesus character can forgive, why can't Gerald Ford? nt

[pitohui]

16. jesus didn't stop one criminal from going on trial

the bible advises us to visit and to be kind to the prisoners and to be sure that they are decently cared for (or at least paul advised this, can't recall jesus saying much about it at the moment)

nowhere does the bible say that a man who breaks the law should be spared any trial or punishment from the legal authorities

he forgives the thief on the cross but he does not take the man down from the cross

grok the difference?

without justice for ALL, there can be no equality and no peace, the powerful have learned that they can do as they like and thus we are in iraq trying to steal that country to this day

[JVS]

19. He pardoned an adulteress! Her ass was about to be stone fodder!

Obviously this means Christ went to HELL!

[pitohui]

20. adultery is not a crime

we're getting a little goofy here, aren't we?

is DU truly so infested w. trolls that people here have been brainwashed to compare gerald ford, a man who sold himself to satan if any man ever did, to jesus?

i realize most drinking the kool aid are not themselves trolls but they are repeating the GOP and troll memes and they should probably knock it off and consider thinking for themselves for a change

jerry was not a nice person and he did not do nice things

[JVS]

21. It certainly was a crime in Jesus' time and was here until recently IIRC

To have discussions of the damnation of someone at DU is beyond ridiculous. It's a moronic discussion. Especially considering the fact that DU has no consensus on the existence of God, Hell, or afterlife

[hfojvt]

26. I was just reading Kansas statutes the other day

In Kansas, adultery is a class 3 misdemeanor.

Ford sold himself to Satan? That's a little bit absurd isn't it, such a statement. Yeah, Ford was worse than Hitler or Bush or Cheney, wasn't he?

[dflprincess]

13. Worse than pardoning Nixon, he helped cover up JFK's murder

for that he should burn.

What a pity that he wasn't worried enough about eternal damnation that he didn't try and atone for his actions by telling the truth before he died.

[Bolo Boffin]

17. I guess you feel the same about Robert Kennedy

And Edward as well.

[bananarepublican]

25. Right on! I just heard today that Nixon also had Connelly on the short...

...list (4-VP)!!!

Connelly's only regret in life was that he instead of Ralph Yardborough took a bullet on Nov. 23rd 1963!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ford, being Hoover's (one of perhaps?)'men' on the Warren Commission, was just as safe a bet to keep Kennedy's pre-meditated murder under wraps! Ford, being a 'Republican', kept the assassination 'bi-partisan'.

America became a BANANA REPUBLIC on 22/11/63!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lies and propaganda]

18. Thats a death I mourn all the time.

a fucking amazement of a man

RIP HST.

[tom_paine]

24. He might be right about that. In doing so, he enabled BushCheney to escape

scrutiny, possible indictment, and at the very least exposure of some of their early malfeasances.