There's A Theory Put Forth That Paul Sanford Was Killed By The BFEE Solely Cause He Asked A Question

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

that they didn't like over a year and a half ago. He's done nothing more to them since.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2983854

This theory is: (On a scale of 1-5, 1 being delusional, 5 being highly probable)

[shadowknows69]

1. You don't think Bushco and in particular Cheneyco.

Are capable of a simple spite killing? Dickie probably read the news that he'd be subpoenaed and told Karl to push the button on him.

"The family had a lot of buttons Senator"
-Willie Cicci

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. I Think Anyone Is Capable.

Capability does not motive make. In this case, it would be as illogical a premise I've ever heard.

They could give a rat's fat ass about this guy. Give me any reason to believe otherwise.

(And for the record, you reallllllly think David Gregory or Helen Thomas would still be breathing? C'mon now).

[shadowknows69]

7. Probably right Mindcrime

but seeing these idiots as characters out of a gangster or bad science fiction movie helps me keep my anger up. The fact that anyone could think their government could be capable of such things speaks volumes about the situation we're in IMO.

[Rex]

2. Could be, maybe not.

Only the guy(s) who pushed him out of the window would know.

[burythehatchet]

3. .

:rofl:

[Rex]

6. In all seriousness.

The logical question would be, did he have any 'really good friends' here at DU or elsewhere. Anyone who could post here that would know if he was working on anything in secret. What 'projects' has he been working on in the last year or so?

Anyone?

[dave_p]

5. There's always a theory

I think they've more pressing mattters to attend to. But I'm sure the word was put about that he was a rabid partisan enemy of all that's holy to the WH bloodsuckers. It doesn't take much to ruin a life when you've an army of tamed, thoroughly corrupted media minions at your disposal. Just another victim of the lies and filth.

[nashville_brook]

8. strawman -- *the question* suggests that he had more information

as it usually does with serious journos...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. Are You Serious? It Did? Rilly? You Mean It?

:rofl:

[nashville_brook]

20. i've owned a newspaper. you don't put public figures in the spotlight, unless you NEED the quote

for something else you are working on. otherwise you risk your rep and your publication's rep.

no, you ask for this kind of quote when you need it for your purposes.

talk about :rolf: -- NO ONE, absolutely no one would expect someone to completely fess up to a mess of corruption with ONE QUESTION.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. Then why wait so long?

[Ellis Wyatt]

11. Just don't see it

For all the vast BFEE conspiracy thories:

I mean sure, Bush is a scumbag and he's lied and broken laws, but the mad evil-genius perception of the BFEE in many circles is wildly overblown in my mind.

Not that they don't have immoral motives or anything, but the thought that everything bad that happens anywhere to anyone is somehow the grand master plan of BFEE is a bit laughable. Everything that happens, the first thought of many is "Bush caused this". It's just irrational and makes you look like a loon.

What really brings it home to me is that we haven't found WMD in Iraq. If the BFEE was going to commit all these tin-foil conspiracies like throwing this dude out the window or planning 9/11 or causing Johnson's stroke or blowing up levees in New Orleans, etc etc etc, they would have planted WMD in Iraq.

If they have the desire and ability to commit crimes like those that have been suggested under our nose and try and get away with it, they could have EASILY and would have DEFINITELY planted WMD in Iraq, had us found them, and boom, Bush is a hero. And it would have been so easy to plant them, in the middle of a war, across the world.

Can you fathom just how differently he'd be perceived if there were actually any WMD in Iraq? And everyone in his administration or extended crime family knew it too.

Again, I'm not defending him in the least; I hate him. I just think that it's tough to believe any of these vast conspiracy theories that come up when the easiest conspiracy theory to execute and the conspiracy theory that would benefited the BFEE the most wasn't executed.

[MetaTrope]

12. Maybe the BFEE thought this was the Paul Sanford who's director of FEC Watch

I had to dig to make sure he wasn't...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

13. LOL Now There's An Interesting Theory.

I don't believe it for a second, but I actually enjoyed your creativity. :)

[TheWraith]

14. Completely delusional.

It's an incredibly paranoid conclusion. It's along the lines of what the right wingers said about about Hillary Clinton having shot Vince Foster. Not just the assumption that they would kill someone, but to kill that particular person for one question asked a year and a half earlier? There's no one else that the Shrubettes would rather get rid of than a no-name journalist who once got uppity with them?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

I am no longer almost completely alone in speaking the common sense logic aloud!

:toast:

[Ellis Wyatt]

17. they've done stuff

but the knee-jerk reaction of blaming every bad thing that happens to anyone remotely connected with BFEE is a bit much.

This is similar to the Vince Foster thing, as was mentioned earlier.

People die. Sometimes they commit suicide. Sometimes it's an accident. Sometimes people are murdered to look like suicide.

Even if it weren't a suicide, it doesn't mean that BFEE has anything to do with it.

If the argument is "prove to me that BFEE didn't do it", well then prove to me that YOU didn't do it. Or prove to me that his wife didn't do it. Or that Al Gore didn't do it.

You can't prove a negative.

[TahitiNut]

16. Why not call it "suspiciously convenient"?

IMHO, there have been altogether too many "suspiciously convenient" deaths ... from the author of "Fortunate Son" to Paul Wellstone to Baxter to whomever.

I think the embargoed interview of Ford by Woodward is emblematic of an "over my dead body" mode of political reality in today's USA. Nothing's impossible (except skiing through a revolving door).

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. Ummm, Cause There's Nothing Suspiciously Convenient About It.

What 'convenience' is it for them to have offed him? He affected them how? He meant something to them why? They give a rat's fat ass about him for what reason? It would be convenient if he were no longer alive how?

[Greg Helmsley]

18. Sorry if I am being stupid

but what is BFEE?

[Ellis Wyatt]

19. Bush Family Evil Empire

AKA Bush Crime Family

[Greg Helmsley]

21. Thanks

Very curious.

[Taxloss]

23. More people are criticising Bush now than at any point in his administration.

He's being ratted on by his former allies in Vanity Fair, Keith Olbermann keeps tearing him a new one, Bob Woodward has conducted as fine an evisceration in print as is conceivable at this point, and that's on top of all the other many fine journalists who have been slamming Bush day in, day out, for years.

My point is this: If there is a "BFEE" policy of offing its critics to deter others, it isn't working. Assassination is a high-risk strategy, and it would have to promise some fairly spectacular returns to make it worthwhile. This Sanford sounds like a good guy, but a lousy hit.

Another, subsidiary point, tinged with personal experience: Most suicides don't look very suicidal in the run-up to their deaths. If they look suicidal, then friends and family can and will intervene, and help. The ones who end up dead mostly didn't have that help. When someone has a family, it's always a surprise when they choose to kill themselves. Unimaginable.

[shance]

24. Totally misleading and intentionally inaccurate poll question,

but then again, thats your job isnt it OMC?

You don't have any idea who this person is, other than that one simple fact he was in the White House press corps and asked a question a year and a half ago.

Care to catch us up on what the man has been doing since that time?

You seem to have no idea.

His friend do however.

They know a lot more than you do about Paul.

You see they actually KNEW Paul. You obviously know nothing about Paul and don't care to.

If you did, you would support an investigation on this case. You would be interested in finding out the truth.

The people who actually KNEW Paul said he wouldnt have done something like this, which you conveniently ignore.