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Thu Dec-28-06 09:11 PM
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Pile-on, on Scarborough Country... |
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Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 09:14 PM by PCIntern
It's like watching a bridge game...the bidding on the hand among the four of them goes higher and higher...doubled and redoubled. Wolffe , Green, and Crowley (of N. Republic) doing a real job...
They're really denigrating Bush and Co...I can't believe that this is MSRNC, truth be told. The Right must want to isolate Bush from the rest of the Rethugs so that they have a better chance in 2008. I can't think of any reason why they'd have a panel who hates Bush this much...certainly not b/c they're promoting - honesty!!?!?
on edit: It's much easier these days to watch Scarborough than Tweety...that POS!
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:24 PM
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and really loving the way they kept showing chimp more reviled than Satan. :evilgrin:
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:25 PM
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2. My theory is that Scarborough is trying to get Olbermann viewers... |
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:37 PM
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:57 PM
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17. VERY likely. The consistent trend of the ratings on cable news shows |
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Olbermann repeatedly leading the pack on MSNBC, beating a LOT of the competition, and gaining rawther dangerously on bill orally. He is consistently the ratings leader on that network. Dan Abrams acknowledged as much when he tapped Keith to co-anchor election night with Tweety. And the numbers drop off substantially when Keith hands off to joe scarborough. Dramatically. joe does NOT sustain the viewership.
I guarantee you he's noticed. It's probably been - um - mentioned to him - by Abrams AND others in or near the executive suites. It's probably the talk in his staff meetings - how do we hold onto the "Countdown" viewers??? EVERYBODY in TV looks at the ratings - POURS over them. EVERYBODY. They hang on 'em. Figuratively and literally because you live and die, professionally, by them. That's probably why he's doing more fluff, more Hollyweird, and APPEARS to be coming around in his thinking from being so radically and unapologetically rah-rah bush. He can count votes. He clearly can read handwriting when it appears on the wall. Certainly he noticed and studied the results of the November midterms. I don't know, deep-down, whether his softening his hard-ass views on Iraq and bush are just schtick to try to increase his ratings following Keith Olbermann (whose presentation is DECIDEDLY liberal and HARDLY what you'd call fawning to the White House as just about everybody else outside Helen Thomas in the White House Press Corpse has done), or whether he's actually beginning to wake up and change his mind, for real. It may just be shtick to pander to an increasingly prominent and liberal and anti-bush audience. Whatever, he HAS modified his views, at least on camera.
I tend to remain skeptical, especially since it involves a republi-CON. I like seeing joe not towing the party line so much anymore, and I thoroughly enjoy seeing his "Is bush an Idiot?" graphics playing onscreen. Perhaps he is moderating. But he's also a republi-CON. So I'm not exactly bestowing Prodigal Son of the Year honors on him yet.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:25 PM
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I've noticed for the last month or so Tweety keeps saying he was against this war from the beginning. I'm I wrong, or wasn't he one of the cheerleaders of this mess in the beginning?
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:27 PM
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Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 09:27 PM by Eric J in MN
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:27 PM
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5. Matthews was against the war before it started, and then... |
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...after the initial stage went well, he said he was wrong.
When Bush did the "Mission Accomplished" photo-op, Matthews praised Bush to the sky.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:39 PM
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to his cod-piece...
Tweety is a little...well...you know...
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:28 PM
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6. he was against it but he's been a Bush cheerleader from the get go |
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AND you have to search for quotes of him saying he's against the war, he was quiet about it.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:29 PM
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8. Tweety played a mind game... |
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interviewed pro-war folks, nodding his head and offerring little criticism, asking a few softball questions for which they were prepared.
Then, if anti-war guests were invited, he'd beat the shit out of them.
At the end, he would question the wisdom of going in, but the propaganda machine was in full bloom...especially about the codpiece-man. Tweety's a creep.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:42 PM
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Look at how he acted with Delay when he thought the cameras were off. If he's going to be different now, it's because he knows the winds have changed.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:27 PM
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4. LOL! Top Villain of 2006: Bush! Doncha love it??? |
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:29 PM
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7. It's all about salvaging the Party for 2008. |
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Joe has realized that backing Bush is a recipe for a complete implosion of the remnants of the Party. Though he enjoyed the ride for 5 years or so, he's trying to get the train to stop before the track runs out. Too little, too late.
I think he realizes that without immediate intervention, the Party will soon be over.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:30 PM
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9. Joe has been surprisingly good the last month or two |
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my son tells me he was always better than the rest, not an ideologue.
Still, I don't trust him and hold my breath each night expecting him to piss me off!
Lately the pissyest thing he does is make fun of actors...not that they don't deserve it.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:39 PM
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13. Joe is a Repub that got turned around after Katrina hit. |
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He was obviously disgusted with busholini and the failed Regime after that.
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:57 PM
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16. Joe is a Repub that got turned around after Hurricane Keith hit. |
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Let's be real here. Joe's merely trying to hold onto the audience of his much more successful lead-in.
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Thu Dec-28-06 10:14 PM
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20. Great Subject Line... |
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:35 PM
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10. I remember the shell-shocked look on Scarborough's face |
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immediately after one of Keith's incredible commentaries. Maybe he decided to follow the lead.
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Thu Dec-28-06 10:01 PM
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Thu Dec-28-06 10:20 PM
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21. Yep. I remember every one of those facial expressions. They said |
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HUGE commentaries without him having to utter a word. Perhaps he did. Or, wouldn't it be nice if he listened, and found that he couldn't help agreeing? Although this is a republi-CON. I'm not willing to give much benefit of the doubt. I don't fully trust scarborough. He'll strap his presidential kneepads back on in a heartbeat if he thinks bush is back in the sunshine. I'm still not fully convinced his moderation is genuine.
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Thu Dec-28-06 10:36 PM
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23. Same here. Something tells me, Don't trust that man. |
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Thu Dec-28-06 09:45 PM
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15. Unfortunately nothing on C&L |
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Did anyone tape it, or is anyone making a video?
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Thu Dec-28-06 10:11 PM
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19. Neocons with any sense |
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are jumping off the sinking ship (SS Treason, registry: some corporate haven), or already have. This leaves behind only the worst dregs of the neocons: the (somebody else should) die-hard neocons.
And these dregs are determined to go forward with such military-madness that it'll make their follies to-date look tame.
And these dregs apparently have w's ear (he likes the tough talk).
And a lot of people are worried about this.
The republicans, of course, and their fellow-travelers are mostly worried that their prospects might worsen if further stupidities are engaged in.
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Thu Dec-28-06 10:33 PM
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22. Joe is a repug is a repug is a repug. Know when he has been |
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beating a dead horse (Chucklenuts) and he is just trying to find a new nag to back for '08. Chucklenuts is more than just a lame duck, he is a dead duck to the repugs, thus the piling on by his fan club. Don't trust Joe - he is still the most dangerous kind of repug - one with a microphone.
And has anyone noticed that Keith doesn't throw to Joe like he used to? Once upon a time there would be a brief mention by Keith throwing the network to Joe but lately there is a sign off that usually doesn't mention the following show. And this started before Keith went into his holiday retro stroll down memory lane of past shows. Ever since we saw the deer in headlights look of Dead Intern after one of Keith's Special Commentaries, Joe has been AWOL a lot during the "baton passing." Don't think that is an accident. Think Ol Dead Intern is cutting and running from Keith's immense talent every chance he gets.
I would love to be a fly on the wall inside the corporate suite of offices of MSNBC - those CEOs trying desperately trying to make silk purses out of Dead Intern's, F*cker Carlson's, and Tweety's ears.
Give it up Dan, you only have one Keith. Just give him three hours a night and a humonous pay raise and everyone will be happy.
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Fri Dec-29-06 12:05 AM
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24. For whatever reason, I tolerate Joe way better than Tweety |
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Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 12:09 AM by Jennicut
I think they are all fake shills except Keith but Tweety is so freakin' manic amd Joe is at least a little more stable and willing to say Bush is an idiot. I also find it amusing that he gets really into the American Idol/Hollyweird crap they force these guys to do and goes along with it with glee. I also seem to tolerate Pat Buchanan as well as even though he is a racist ultra ultra conservative he is not afraid to attack Bush and usually hits the nail on the head about Chimpy's shortcomings in that momotone voice of his. Oh, and some advice to Tweety...slow down, shut up, and listen to your guests.
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