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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:05 AM
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Falwell: Rethinking Kwanzaa
FALWELL CONFIDENTIAL
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From: Jerry Falwell
Date: December 28, 2006

Rethinking Kwanzaa

We hear a lot these days about a divided nation. So I began wondering this week why our nation has begun to embrace a relatively new celebration known as Kwanzaa, which is not as innocent as it appears on the surface.

Launched in 1966, Kwanzaa is celebrated for seven days, beginning December 26. The weeklong festival was introduced by Ron Karenga (AKA Ron Everett), a black author and Marxist devotee, who has a very dubious history. Mr. Karenga’s Marxist roots should be a warning signal right off the bat, but there’s more to be concerned about here.

In 1969, on the campus of UCLA, Mr. Karenga led a student group known as United Slaves, which, along with students in the equally radical Black Panthers (the rivals of United Slaves), actually attended classes with loaded weapons.

David Horowitz, in his book “Radical Son,” noted that Black Panther John Higgins was then “murdered — along with Al ‘Bunchy’ Carter — on the UCLA campus by members of Ron Karenga’s organization.” Later, female members of the United Slaves said they were tortured by United Slaves members, all at Mr. Karenga’s command.

Members of the organization have since reported being beaten and tortured by Mr. Karenga and his minions. He was actually convicted of felonious assault and false imprisonment in 1971, and sentenced to prison. At his trial, a psychiatrist’s report declared: “This man now represents a picture which can be considered both paranoid and schizophrenic with hallucinations and elusions, inappropriate affect, disorganization, and impaired contact with the environment.”

But the story gets more bizarre.

When he was released from prison, Mr. Karenga had earned his doctorate degree and soon was appointed to the Black Studies Department at California State University, Long Beach.

I’ll never cease to be amazed at the foolish gullibility of modern education officials.

Our nation, I believe, has also been naïve in accepting Kwanzaa without examining its roots and its founder. In our modern quest to embrace multiculturalism and diversity at all costs, I believe we are being duped by the founder of Kwanzaa.

I’ve watched several news reports on Kwanzaa in recent days and none of them have mentioned the dark history of its founder or its Marxist pedigree. The reports have simply noted that Kwanzaa is a weeklong celebration rooted in African traditions, and even that is untrue.

Mr. Karenga himself admits that Kwanzaa is not fundamentally African, telling the Washington Post in 1978, “People think it’s African, but it’s not.”

In a recent column, Ann Coulter, never one to mince words, said of Kwanzaa: “(It) is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy ‘60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism.” She added, “When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy underlying Kwanzaa, from ‘classical Marxism,’ he essentially explained that under Kawaida, we also hate whites.”

Listen, I love learning about other cultures. At Liberty University, where I am the chancellor, this year we welcomed students from 83 nations among our 10,000-plus resident students. Further, nearly 14 percent of our student body is African-American. I truly enjoy meeting these students, hearing their stories and celebrating their life goals. It is fascinating to learn about others’ customs and ways of life.

But I cannot accept Kwanzaa as a legitimate American holiday. It is corrupt and wholly anti-American. There is danger in it.

I join with Ann Coulter in celebrating Galatians 3:28, which notes that the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ is available to all, no matter their race, color, background or heritage. It says, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus …” (NKJV).

Therein lies real diversity and true freedom for all.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:07 AM
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Maybe we should RETHINK Falwell.........
:puke:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:07 AM
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1. Is this an organized attack on Kwanzaa?
A war on Kwanzaa?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:07 AM
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2. Falwell and Coulter....now there
is a marriage made in hell.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:11 AM
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3. STFU Falwell
Nothing you say matters.:puke: :puke:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:15 AM
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4. Well if Falwell said it, it MUST be true (not)
I love this:

Further, nearly 14 percent of our student body is African-American. I truly enjoy meeting these students, hearing their stories and celebrating their life goals. It is fascinating to learn about others’ customs and ways of life.

Yeah, African Americans have such fascinatingly foreign and different "customs and ways of life" from other Americans! :eyes:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:04 AM
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21. So learning about African American customs is good but
Kwanzaa is bad??

Sheesh, Falwell is such a friggin hypocrite.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:19 AM
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32. That's what I don't understand.
It doesn't make any sense.

Diversity of culture = good

Diversity of cultural celebrations = bad ?
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:43 AM
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66. 14% must be on the basketball team

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:17 AM
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5. "I join with Ann Coulter in celebrating Galatians 3:28, which notes that the gift of blah blah blah"
Is this from the Onion?
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:48 PM
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46. so how does this work with Ann's remarks wanting to bomb
the crap out of the Muslims?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #46
52. WWJB?
Good question.
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 08:19 AM
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6. Falwell and Ann Coulter joining up.
What a frightening union! :scared:
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 03:15 PM
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57. I can't imagine the offspring
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:21 AM
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7. Next thing you know, he'll be going after Festivus.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:29 AM
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8. Falwell giving a thesis on Kwanzaa....
is akin to Al Capone offering his thoughts on law and order. :argh:


Why must we share oxygen with this big sack of hot gas?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:33 AM
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9. "True freedom" is that everyone must worship Jesus...
...according to Falwell:

"Galatians 3:28, which notes that the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ is available to all, no matter their race, color, background or heritage. It says, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus …” (NKJV).

Therein lies real diversity and true freedom for all."
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:44 AM
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67. That explains the rules at "Liberty" University
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 06:11 AM by pstokely
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:17 AM
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10. It IS a festival, not a holy day. I.e., people celebrating Kwanzaa might be
of any FAITH, and probably are.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:35 AM
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11. Knowng the history of Kwanza and Fallwell, I can't take either of them seriously
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:44 AM
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13. Same here.
Falwell makes a bad spokesperson against Kwanzaa, beecause if one has half a brain, one is inclined to discount anything he says as sheer garbage (especially when he's quoting Ann Coulter as a follower of anything the Bible says!). But the fact remains that Kwanzaa is not particularly African in origin, and was invented by a person with a very unsavory past--initially as a sort of "Christmas substitute" for African Americans. It's changed since then into an attempt to celebrate African heritage, period, and certain values, but the fact remains that the guy who came up with it is not the gentle, peaceful "Dr. Karenga" he has been portrayed as by its practitioners. And it's all rather questionable--a "harvest festival" in the dead of winter?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:41 AM
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12. Karenga has an unsavory history?
That's the whole of his argument? I can go with that. Let's get out the scissors and snip Paul out of the Bible. It's a great idea, I'm glad he thought of it.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:46 AM
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14. I wouldn't mind snipping Paul out of the Bible.
Except for his words on love. In many ways, he's done more harm than good to Christianity. But he didn't invent the religion himself out of whole cloth.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:52 AM
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16. So, let me get this straight, your invented religion is better than theirs?
:shrug:

Just askin.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:59 AM
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18. Kwanzaa's a religion?
I thought it was a holiday, with a smattering of philosophical ideals as reasons for celebration. I could be wrong, though.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:01 AM
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19. Ah, it's a competition.
I understand the hostility now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:10 AM
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25. Yes there is definitely hostility in this thread
:eyes:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:12 AM
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26. uh huh
:eyes::eyes:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:26 AM
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36. Seeing all his friends get murdered made him mentally unstable
Questions about his sanity arose during his trial in 1971.

He spent four years in prison for several pretty bad deeds, including torturing people, but after leaving he has been a different person, he even became the chairman of the black studies department at California State University, a position he held until 2002.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:30 AM
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38. Well, that would do it.
What has Falwell spent the last 30 years doing?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #12
40. Yep - Paul was the founding member of the He-Man, Woman-Hater's Club
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:49 AM
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15. I was in Los Angeles during those times
and that is NOT what the holiday is/was about.

It is not a religious celebration, it is a FAMILY celebration and a lovely time for African American children to learn to appreciate the gifts of life.

We celebrated the holiday with my cousins when they were young.
We had a pot luck dinner together, lit the candles and focused on our children.
We laughed and told family memories, shared family photographs and talked to the children about what they wanted to be " when they grew up."
We would put the records on and dance to the music of James Brown, Michael Jackson and the elders and the children would dance together.

We would have a ball clapping and encouraging the young ones to be the center of attention and the "apples in our eyes."

We recorded their thoughts each year and discussed and recorded the new thoughts each year.

They still talk about our warm and wonderful times together.

Falwell does not define OUR holidays, we do!

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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:36 AM
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39. This is the perfect response to Falwell
Gee, isn't it Marxist for families to get together, strengthen their bonds, give children a day to shine and do something other than shop for consumer goods or spend the entire day playing PS3?

I wish you'd send your reply to Falwell, Mr. "Family Values", and ask him why he's so against the American family. I loved it and thank you for sharing your memories.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:53 AM
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17. Falwellians will bad mouth anything....
That does not conform to their ideological religion...Fuck Falwell.

All religion is cancer.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:02 AM
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20. I have received this story via email every year now for a couple years
from a fundie I used to be friends with. It's interesting that white Christians who feel so persecuted and are promoting this war on Christmas crap are so ready to criticize another culture's holiday.

I have the same response to this as I do to the talibornagains who fight to make a woman's right to choose and stem cell research illegal -

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE KWANZAA IS A LEGITIMATE HOLIDAY, DON'T CELEBRATE IT. No one is forcing you to embrace Kwanzaa, or to have an abortion or to save your own life with a cure discovered by stem cell research. So take your moral indignation and share it with someone who cares.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:10 AM
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24. ROFLMAO!!!
When I read the last sentence of your response I let my imagination finish it!

"So take your moral indignation and s____ ......."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:12 AM
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27. I chose not to go that route
Didn't feel like being hostile :)
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. Ah, but you were thinking it....
I don't ever let myself respond to those (and boy do I get them at work), kudos on your self-control. :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:18 AM
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31. Restraint is the only thing that is keeping me from
telling the talibornagains to shove it - on a daily basis. They truly make me ill. I despise them more than I despise repukes.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:20 AM
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33. Oh, wow, I forgot where you lived.
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:21 AM by beam me up scottie
I did remember you were a teacher.

But a teacher in KANSAS... you have it WAY worse than I do. :patriot:






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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:57 AM
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42. Actually I live in a very large metro area
that is pretty progressive. And I teach in MO. But the fundies are not far away. The movie Jesus Camp was about kids from a suburban area not far from where I live. An area, BTW, that I avoid at all costs. I call it La La Land. LOL
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:00 PM
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43. Jesus Camp is what's like a foreign country.
Whenever I see those clips, it doesn't compute, it's just so wrong.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:14 PM
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44. Those people are nuckin futts
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:08 AM
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22. Wow! 14% of Liberty University students are black?!
That's a lot of shoe shine boys...

:sarcasm:

For the sarcasm impaired, the above statement was an attack on Liberty University, Falwell, and what he would believe the role of black students to be. It should in no way be construed as an opinion of what black students are capable of, or what I believe thier role should be.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:52 AM
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41. No, he said ALMOST 14 percent are black.
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:53 AM by Clark2008
That means it could be 13.1 percent or lower. ;)
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:47 AM
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68. and Basketball players
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:09 AM
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23. Is Falwell black? Is Coulter black?
If not, then maybe they should consider butting out. If some blacks want to invent an African-ish holiday, how is it anyone else's business?

Thanksgiving is another deliberately created holiday, and it sits atop a much bloodier past than this Kwanzaa thing does. But we don't hear Falwell applying the same criticisms to Thanksgiving. Wonder why that is?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:14 AM
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28. Falwell was a strict segregationist in the 60's.
Apparently, his thinking hasn't evolved all that much. Big surprise.
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:15 AM
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29. DIAF, Jerry Falwell.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:22 AM
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34. Christmas was thrust on us by Vatican, You know how many they killed?
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:22 AM by Ioo
Holy cray! For this man to say anything, when the faith he claims to be a part of is hip deep in the blood of those that crossed it...
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:25 AM
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35. Christmas is not to be trusted.
It has its roots in dark, bloody European paganism. The tree-worship of the violent Germanic clans, the unbridled lust and degeneracy of the Roman Saturnalia, the ritual butchery of Mithraism. People see Christmas as a time of love, peace and gift-giving. They fail to see the godless hedonism, murder and upheaval of the social order at its roots.

This country MUST stop celebrating Christmas at once!

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:


And fuck you, Jerry Falwell!
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:28 AM
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37. Falwell - Bill Bennett in a pulpit
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:28 AM by hatrack
Irrelevant Moonie-esque twaddle.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:23 PM
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45. In other words, 'be just like me and we'll have unity'.
The enternal cry of the bigot. Falwell is a professional hatemonger-- a snake oil salesman.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:56 PM
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47. Another white American ayatolluh attempting to dictate
both which religion we are free to worship.

And anything Ann Coulter worships, along with Jerry Falwell, has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Anyone can memorize a few bible verses and regurgitate them in pretense.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:02 PM
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48. FALWELL SPEAKS
:boring:
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flashlighter Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:03 PM
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49. why bother?
Would you listen to the rantings of any other lunatic?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:09 PM
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50. If they're talking about us, yes.
Would you listen to the rantings of any other lunatic?


If they're lying about us, yes.

If they're spreading hate, yes.

If they're trying to create a theocracy, yes.


Not paying attention to the "lunatics" is what got us where we are today.


Welcome to DU, you'd better get used to it. :)

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flashlighter Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:19 PM
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51. I understand what you're saying,
but you can't use reason and facts to argue with a group of people who don't believe in evolution, the big bang theory, South Dakota, gravity....


just ignore them. Like that hateful blond stick figure I refuse to name; if no one pays her any attention, she'll shrival up and blow away.

And thank you for the welcome ;)
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:26 PM
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54. You're not listening.
Ignoring them let them take over our public schools.

Ignoring them let them install their people in all three branches of government.

Ignoring them puts us one Supreme Court Justice away from the dark ages.


And don't forget what ignoring the Taliban got us.



No, ignoring them is no longer an option.



We're not arguing with the whackjobs, we're demanding our country back.


And the only way to get it back is if we KNOW what they're doing.


DU is a wonderful resource, treasure it.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:33 AM
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60. As long as lunatics like him are taken seriously by the repugs ...
I'm gonna hear what he says.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:38 AM
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61. And thank you for posting it.
This is worth holding up to scrutiny so that the moderates can see what they're in for.

I can't even wrap my head around how much people DON'T know about what's going on in this country.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:40 AM
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65. Thanks
Happy New Year! :hi:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:24 PM
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53. I presume, then, that Falwell will stop celebrating it immediately.
Idiot.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:33 PM
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55. The seven principles of Kwanzaa
Unity
Self-Determination
Collective Work and Responsibility
Cooperative Economics
Purpose
Creativity
Faith

I can see why the right wing hates Kwanzaa. They need a dispirited, divided, dependent underclass to point to with disgust.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:40 PM
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56. To REthink something, one would have to have first THOUGH of it.
If he claims that NOW he thinks it's a "bad" idea, who's he kidding, if he wants us to think he EVER thought it was a good one :rofl:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 03:26 PM
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58. "... should be a warning signal right off the bat..."
The fact that Falwell thinks socialist leanings in someone who wants to light candles and celebrate in a way other than the way he "likes" to, is a warning signal in itself.

He needs to crawl back under his rock and STFU.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 03:51 PM
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59. Falwell -- board up your glass house...
First, throughout history there have been individuals who created greatness and contributions to our society yet had their own personal character flaws. Dr. Karenga was no exception.

The Kwanzaa celebration was never about Dr. Karenga's character flaws, but about celebrating heritage and ancestry through self-reflection.

So if Falwell wants to go down on that level of discussing character flaws as justification for negating the greatness and contributions, we could start with him?

After all didn't Jesus say in the context, whoever has no sin can cast the first stone?

So
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 02:11 AM
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62. Falwell -- board up your mouth!
:banghead:
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 02:13 AM
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63. FUCK FALWELL!!!!!!!!!! nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:13 AM
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64. this man is a sad, pathetic human being
he talks about foolish gullability while feeding this f***ing tripe to his hungry idiot fans
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:14 AM
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69. His competition dropping like flies, Falwell smells opportunity
It's true. Ted Haggard isn't the only one recently out of the running for leading the fundy flock. Rev. D. James Kennedy, 76, remains in critical condition after a heart attack on Thursday. Who's that, you ask?

-snip-

Among Kennedy’s recent causes have been pushing Congress for a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage and outlawing partial-birth abortion.

He raised money to help Alabama’s chief justice defend himself in the fight over displaying the Ten Commandments at the state’s Supreme Court building and urged supporters to fight to keep Terri Schiavo on life support.

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Kennedy was one of the key religious figures in getting social conservatives to rally behind George W. Bush in the 2000 presidential election. Kennedy declared Bush’s victory a “moral mandate” and demanded that issues important to Christian conservatives be at the top of the new administration’s agenda.

“He’s able to put the foot soldiers on the ground and get the faith-based message out there on the responsibility of voting,” said Sharon Day, a member of the National Republican Committee from Fort Lauderdale.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16950/d-james-kennedy-suffers-heart-attack

Yep, fundy pastors are dropping like flies lately, and nobody plays for the spotlight with outrageous statements like Jerry Falwell. He helped throw Jim and Tammy Bakker under the bus, and dismissed Haggard's authority as an evangelical leader. If I was John Hagee I'd be looking over my shoulder.
:rofl:

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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:06 AM
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70. Using Falwell as the subject of a sentence with think as the verb is nonsensical.
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 07:08 AM by retread
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:04 AM
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71. Liberty's official list of student clubs:
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