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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:36 PM Original message |
Connecting the stripes: Was Mrs. Young's "ejection" from the SOTU staged? |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, but |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. then the capitol police had damned well better explain why they |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Was she "wearing" the shirt or just "holding" it. I wanna know. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. They arrested Cindy AND |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Surely a photographer caught the whole thing, right? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Oh, yeah, the Capitol Police have no reason to lie here! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Well, perhaps she was "holding" the shirt- which is also suspicious. |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
51. I'm not quite that jaded |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
93. how does it cover their asses? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. The point, at least in part, is that she was not "ejected". |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. glad you mentioned Parlock. I brought him up immediately this morn. |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. Show me the photos! |
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Sadie5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. What is this Young woman? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. When did Republicans start WEARING beachwear to SOTU speeches? |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. It's not like there wasn't ANY cameras in the building last night... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Surely a photographer nearby saw the guards confront her. n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #49 |
95. she was in the gallery, why would there be a photographer there? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
94. and yet there's no video of Cindy either |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. Remember when the media told us "Clinton vandalized the White house" |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. You raise what is definitely a reasonable doubt. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I'd like to know if she was "wearing" or "holding" the shirt. |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. The congressman showed up with it at a news conference today |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. That only proves that pro-bush shirt exists in the vicinity... |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. It looked like he borrowed it from some Freeper |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. see post #23 n/t |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
79. Very very interesting |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. She just conveniently had another shirt on under the T-shirt? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. I'm not sure what you mean- I have yet to see a pic of her in ANY shirt. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I mean what kind of person wears something and expects it to be taken off? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
78. I'm going to go out on a limb even further and offer another inference: |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
80. And she went straight to the press after she was put out |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. No Way It Was Staged. Not Everything Is Staged For The Record. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Read through everything |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Here's something that I doubt will surprise you. Another Bev encounter. |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. Great read. I usually don't read lengthy posts, but this is worth it. nt |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. when I wrote to cafferty, I pointed out that the very LEAST these morans |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:31 PM Original message |
Do they even have a photo of her empty seat in the gallery?? |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Doesn't Young (my fricking Congresscritter) look like a |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It's the tragedy of Republican hair. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Conway Twitty comes to mind, too. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
106. You are right! |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
82. Oh he does! |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. Staged. Without a doubt. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
96. Not staged. Without a doubt. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. Where he is from is very important |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Well, that could cut both ways, though. People in FL tend to dress quite |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
83. This is in Washington DC in the winter time |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #52 |
84. I'm talking about why it was him for this |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. There was a video tape of her on CNN "The Situation Room |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Okay- this is a start- where was the interview filmed? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I don't know where it was. She was sitting down , |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. We have photos of Sheehan in real time, in the Capital itself... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. OK, I found a video. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Still not a photo of her INSIDE the capital auditorium though. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. Watch Anderson Cooper 360 tonight if you can. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Have you found any photos showing how she ordinarily dresses when she |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Thanks for that link |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Plus, how many minutes later was this interview? |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Mystery solved. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Not yet- see my follow up questions. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. It does raise the idea of the "fashion police" to a whole new level. nt |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. A bit off topic, but Bill Young looks like a cross between.. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. LOL! |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. I'm thinkin' Jimmy Swaggart, but hey. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
33. I was actually at the "Post Message" page when I saw your post. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. BINGO- The wife was HOLDING the shirt in her hands. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. With spying going on, we can only wonder what the Bushcon guys |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. We're thinking alike on this one... |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I know...the coincidences themselves are quite weird. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well, if her husband "held up her shirt standing in the well of the house |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I guess that is the only shirt she owns or something? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. No, you don't get it |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
39. Bill Young is my Congressman.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You may be right- but lets see the photgraphs. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I'm not sure how "disruptive" her removal was |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Show me the photos of her inside the Capital, and the mystery is solved. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. And if those can't be found, I'd like to see some photos of her at some |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. There would be pictures, esp. since Cindy had just been led out |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
99. Oh yeah straight up people |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. A TOTAL SETUP. But just like everything else with BushCo, no proof. nt |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yep. It stinks to high heaven! |
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RhodaGrits (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. YES - |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. y'all should remove your tinfoil helmets, they're restricting the blood |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Okay, we get it. You like them. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Even nice people can be wire-tapped & black-mailed. |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #64 |
100. Da Godfadder |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. I am left thinking how alike she and Sheehan seem after reading that. |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
91. Before you decide Bev is like Cindy, check out this eyewitness account |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
90. Talk about helmets, you might want to adjust your own. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
102. I read that. It reads like Soviet propaganda. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Six rows away? |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. Steve, I posted the photo of him holding the t-shirt above ^ |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
103. Thanks for that. Wow. |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
73. This story broke at 6 a.m. this morning... |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. To be fair, it seems to me I heard about it last night too. |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. It just seems a bit too contrived but it is possible and hey... |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Yeah... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. They forged an entire war- this would be childs play after that. |
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samhsarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-01-06 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
75. STEEEENKY for sure. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
86. no congressman's wife would wear that T-shirt to SOTU |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 02:30 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. If there was any one reason to doubt this story, that's it |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #86 |
97. How well do you know Bev Young? |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. Absofreakinlutely Right! nt |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
92. Steve See My Bev Young Story |
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rpgamerd00d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
98. STAGED or NOT, it doesnt matter, it HELPS Cindy's Lawsuit |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
104. A congressman's wife dressed like that in front row would have gotten |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
105. Pic here. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-02-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Randi seemed to buy that the Congressman's wife was legit |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-03-06 04:39 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I'm truly leaning |
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