Would someone please explain to me what the difference between Saddam and the US is...

[Missy M]

Saddam killed and tortured Iraqis who opposed him.
The US kills and tortures insurgents who oppose them.
Saddam executed people in secrecy and buried them in unmarked graves.
Saddam is handed over by the US and executed by the US preferred Iraqi government in the dead of night and will be buried in a secret, unmarked grave.
Saddam invaded Kuwait.
The US invaded Iraq.

Those are just a few examples. What I want to know is, how is it so horrible (and it was) for Saddam to do those things and yet it's perfectly OK for Bush to do the same. How many Iraqis have been killed in the name of Bush. We have to remember that neither Saddam or Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no WMD's.

[MetaTrope]

1. Apparently

Because Saddam did it to Iraqis, while Bush...is doing it to Iraqis?

[cali]

2. Point by point:

As you noted Saddam brutalized his own population- hideously btw. As far as I know, there are no unmarked mass graves filled with Americans. Saddam executed thousands in secrecy. His own execution, was hardly secret, if anything it was disgustingly public, but he was hardly disappeared in the middle of the night. You forgot about Saddam's little war with Iran, in which millions were killed.

Look, bushco is a disasterous president, and it can certainly be argued that he has done as much damage, or more, than Saddam, by being a very bad president of the most powerful nation on earth, but he's a piker when it comes to the kind of torture and murder practiced by Saddam, and he certainly hasn't treated U.S. citizens in any way, shape or form, akin to how Hussein treated dissident Iraqis.

[helderheid]

5. I agree with you almost entirely with the exception of 2 events on our soil

(I almost typed soul):

9/11 and Katrina.

Some will argue that both were simply tragedies but in both instances, Bush has blood on his hands. At the very least, Bush could have prevented many deaths in both instances.

[LynnTheDem]

7. "there are no unmarked mass graves filled with Americans"

I presume you mean new such unmarked mass graves during the bush regime.

So bush is merely "disasterous" because he's confined the majority of his killing to Iraqis, not Americans.

Gee, I sure do wonder why the world is of the opinion we're ignorant arrogant idiots.

[cali]

10. Since when is disaster paired with "merely"? You have created a

wonderful little oxymoron there. Look, it can certainly be argued that bushco is more damaging to the world at large than Saddam ever was; and I'd take that side, but whether you like it or not, to some degree, leaders are judged by how they treat their own citizens, and in that regard, Saddam was far worse than bush.

Oh, btw, let me return the compliment, stripped of its transparent cover: I feel the same way about you.

[LynnTheDem]

11. Thanks!

:)

[Missy M]

12. I am talking about what Bush and the US has done on Iraq's soil....

not to Americans. Maybe unmarked graves is not the right way to put it but when we have blown areas to rubble I am sure there are many Iraqis buried under the rubble. As far as Saddam's execution it was announced and over with in about 48 hours and his family cannot bury him. I did see a documentary at one time where our Army bulldozed hundreds of dead Iraqi soldiers during the Gulf War into mass graves. We must not forget Guantanomo with hundreds of detainees for years without counsel. As far as Saddam's war with Iran that is a different story and we did nothing about it at the time. Didn't we provide weapons to Saddam at that time?

[leesa]

3. We kill waaaaay more people.

[shadowknows69]

4. Hemisphere?

n/t

[LynnTheDem]

6. American Exceptionalism

It's ok for us to do it.

It's ok for others to do it when the US gov says it's ok.

It's evil for others to do it when the US gov says it's evil.

[smirkymonkey]

8. I thought I was the only one who was thinking this.

When is someone going to invade the US and save us from our evil dictator?

[rman]

9. the US installed Saddam, not the other way around

well, it's a difference.

http://www.bushflash.com/swf/thanks.swf