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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:50 AM
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Let's just pardon bush for all his crimes so that the nation can 'heal'.
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 09:27 AM by Philosoraptor
Cause that's what the good ol late gerry ford did you know, he started the national healing process by pardoning nixon for all his atrocities and tyranny's.

When it gets down to impeaching or investigating or punishing bush for his crimes, let's just use the gerry ford healing method and move on, whatta ya say?

Believe me, this all makes perfect sense if you listen to the gerry ford apologists.:sarcasm:
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:59 AM
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1. Why should we pardon bush, he's done nothing wrong!!!
:sarcasm:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:20 AM
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2. We'll pardon all the Bushies for unnamed and unspecified crimes...
no point in dragging the public through any disheartening lists of purported wrongs they might or might not have committed. In fact, there's no real point in announcing the pardons. Can't we just classify them?
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moblsv Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:24 AM
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3. admission of guilt
At least a pardon would be a strong admission of guilt the country, and the world, could not deny. I think it would help heal the wounds created by this f*ck-up administration. It would be a statement to the world that this is not what America is about. If we don't start moving on and fixing the Bush legacy, and soon, this world will not be a pleasant place to live.

We have a lot of work to do. Revenge against Bush is low on my list of priorities.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:26 AM
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4. I don't want revenge against bush.
Frankly, I'd like to see him arrested and jailed.

Maybe I should've put a few sarcasm icons in my thread.
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moblsv Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:36 AM
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6. know what you mean
I think he is a traitor and deserves to be arrested and jailed.

Unfortunately, I don't think it would be worth it politically.

This also goes for about half of his staff, appointees, media lapdogs, corporate masters, and many others who have been complicit in this selling out of the country.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:59 AM
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8. "Worth it politically" long term or short term?
We're still seeing the effects of the Nixon pardon.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:29 AM
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5. Ford rehabilitated the GOP and made George W. Bush possible
Everything was swept under the rug with a pen.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:44 AM
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7. The hyperbole around Ford is very funny. Cheney said he saved our
nation from a possible catastrophe. All this saving us stuff ends right there. No one says exactly how having Nixon held accountable would have been the end of our nation.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:01 AM
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9. I agree. Ford enabled Bush* even if only indirectly.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:06 AM
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10. just pardoning him would take too long
we should impeach him. the sooner we impeach the sooner he gets his pardon
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:13 AM
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11. but, but, we must let the healing begin! Throw away those crutches!
Come on Amurka, heal thyself! They might have been nicer to Bill, and let the healing begin, but no, they impeached him.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:17 AM
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13. it will happen sooner
we can't just hop to the pardoning - bush can't pardon himself, he needs to be pardoned by some other sitting president.

so if we impeach him, remove his from office, or get him to resign - the new president can pardon him and then we can heal

if we are just waiting for a pardon - it'll be 2 more years.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:20 AM
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14. True.
If bush stepped down in disgrace like nixon over alleged high crimes, his replacement would probably be someone hand picked to pardon bush, like nixon did. Then the pardon, so maybe it'll be crazy president mc cain, pardoning crazy dubya.

I can see it happening and for the same reasons, people get sick of this shit dragging on and on like the o.j. chase.

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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:18 AM
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18. Bush CAN pardon himself.
And, if removed from office via impeachment, he CAN'T be pardoned by the next President.

Any pardon, though, of Bush would not heal the nation............it would tear it apart further.

He must be tried for his crimes so that America and the world can see for itself what a stupid, criminal, power-mad cretin he is/was.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:16 AM
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12. obsess much? lol. nt.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 06:44 AM
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 06:47 AM
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16. Your subject line...those are the words I've been dreading
for about five years now. I can't honestly say I've been having nightmares about them, but close enough.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 06:59 AM
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17. 1974 Herblock cartoon
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:23 AM
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19. one simple reminder (and please pardon me if i scream-i just lost my last one good nerve):

No Justice - No Peace!



O8)
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:45 AM
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20. pardon all nonviolent drugs prisoners so the nation can heal
How twisted the dissonance has become when pardoning a murderer
is conscience debate, but for persons who took their constitutional liberty,
what healing is there rotting in the prisons.

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:47 AM
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21. If Bush and Cheney resign first in favor the the man who actually won the 2000 election, maybe
Seriously, I could go for that. Otherwise forget it.
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