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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:05 PM
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Read about Beverly Young, THEN decide if ejection was staged.
from the St Pete Times, I hope printing in its entirety is allowed. Link to article in SPT archives:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/results.html?RQT=511&sid=1&firstIndex=20&PQACnt=1



Copyright Times Publishing Co. Dec 19, 2005
This is not how congressional wives are supposed to act.

They are not supposed to curse at Pentagon officials, write angry letters to President Bush or say that members of Congress take bribes.

But Beverly Young, the wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young of Indian Shores, doesn't play by those rules. Spend a day with her visiting wounded Marines at the National Naval Medical Center and you'll hear a few expletives. When she sees a photograph of a former hospital official, Beverly says: "See this b----? If she were here, I'd deck her."

But mostly what you hear from Beverly is compassion for the Marines who lie in the surgical ward, wincing from their injuries. Many have had arms or legs amputated. She holds their hands and tells each of them, "We love you, Marine."

She asks one if he needs chewing tobacco or whiskey. She slips $200 to the fiancee of another.

She spends several days a week at the hospital, often bringing pizzas or DVDs. When the Marines have no family, Beverly spends hours in their rooms like a surrogate mother. One Marine says that when he was overmedicated with painkillers, she saved his life by cursing in his ear like a drill instructor.

Laws have been changed thanks to Beverly. She prodded her husband to create a nationwide registry for bone marrow donors. When she discovered the military charged wounded soldiers for hospital meals, she raised such a fuss Congress repealed the law.

Says Marine Brig. Gen. John Kelly: "She can be a royal pain in the a-- - but only to people who don't care about the troops."

On a cold December morning, the Youngs arrive at the Bethesda naval hospital. Three staffers from Bill's congressional office carry boxes of CD players and music CDs for the injured Marines. People injured in battle often can't stop the sounds of war in their heads. Music helps.

As the Youngs stop in each room, Beverly goes bedside and holds a hand or rubs a shoulder. She never lets go.

She and Bill talk with a Marine whose leg was amputated at his knee because of a grenade blast. He is groggy from painkillers.

They are ready to offer him a CD player when his mother says the band Fleetwood Mac has given iPods loaded with rock music to everyone in the ward. But Beverly has noticed a photo of the Marine wearing a cowboy hat. "Do you need any country music?" she asks.

He does. She summons the aide with the CDs. "We need some country."

She flips through the assortment. "Lonestar? Brooks & Dunn? Kenny Chesney?"

"I like Brooks & Dunn," he says. She hands over a CD player, a Brooks & Dunn CD and a couple of others.

They chat about his family and his Western roots. Beverly wonders if a little chewing tobacco would help him recuperate. "Do you need some dip?"

He shakes his head no.

"You need some whiskey?"

"I love whiskey," he says.

They talk about his injuries and his wish to get home for Christmas. She ends the visit by telling him, "We love you, Marine."

The Youngs' generosity comes in hundreds of gestures, big and small. When wounded soldiers or Marines leave the hospital, Bill and Beverly take them out for a steak dinner. On Christmas, the Youngs deliver turkeys to Marines in Quantico, Va., and then take gifts to the patients in the Army and Navy hospitals. "We just try to make them know they are loved," Beverly says.

The Youngs do not seek publicity for their work. (It took several requests before they would allow the St. Petersburg Times to accompany them for this story.)

But Beverly is not shy about seeking donations. She got her gynecologist to pay for the CD players and music. She got the country band Alabama and many others to donate money to a paralyzed sailor.

She makes her rounds at military and veterans hospitals in Bethesda, Washington and the Tampa Bay area. Bill accompanies her when his schedule permits. They spend hundreds of dollars from their own pockets on pizzas, clothes, movies. Beverly has been known to bring pitchers of margaritas or a bottle of Jack Daniel's.

She insists they call her Beverly. "You call me 'ma'am,' " she says, "and I'm going to whup your a--."

Beverly, 50, grew up in an Italian family in Seminole, the youngest of five. She married a Pinellas sheriff's deputy shortly after high school and they moved to Colorado, where she became a volunteer firefighter and medic.

They divorced and she returned to Pinellas County and went to work as a secretary in Bill's congressional office. Bill divorced his first wife and married Beverly in 1985. They have two sons, Billy, 21, and Patrick, 18, and Robbie, 29, from her first marriage.

Bill is 75, 25 years older, a difference that was difficult at first. "There were people taking bets on whether this marriage would last - and I was one of them," she says. "A couple of times I wanted to run. But we had kids."

Their marriage grew stronger as they put the boys first. She stayed home to take care of them, and Bill skipped nighttime political events so he could be home for dinner.

They have very different personalities. Beverly is fiery and blunt, Bill is gentle and diplomatic. Their marriage is proof that opposites attract. "He once told me that I was everything he was not allowed to be," she says.

Spend a day with them and you get the sense there is a good cop- bad cop strategy at work. He smiles and steps aside while she raises hell. But he supports everything she does.

He says Beverly introduced him to some important health care programs such as bone marrow transplants. He then created a federal bone marrow registry that has saved thousands of lives.

Both of the Youngs are devoted to the military. Beverly always respected men and women in uniform, but she became more passionate five years ago after helping a Marine who was shot in the back during training. Now, when she or Bill meet with the wounded, they always say, "Thank you for your sacrifice."

It is common for Capitol Hill spouses to adopt causes, but what's striking about the wife of Florida's most powerful House member is her style. She is not demure. She once attended a meeting of congressional wives but walked out after 20 minutes. She and Bill avoid the D.C. party circuit.

"She has never been the typical congressional wife," Bill says, with a knowing smile. He says he likes the fact that she is "very honest and open."

Beverly makes wisecracks about going through menopause, but looks five or 10 years younger than she is. She has a stylish haircut and gold hoop earrings, and - even when visiting the Capitol - wears jeans and a Marine Corps T-shirt that says "Nothing But Attitude."

"I could buy a dress for George Bush's Christmas party - or give $200 to (the fiancee of the wounded Marine). I'd rather give it to the girl."

Members of Congress usually live in pricey homes close to the Capitol or in nearby suburbs. But the Youngs live 30 miles away in Woodbridge, Va.

Beverly says it's all they can afford because her husband "doesn't take bribes like all the others."

Bill, who has clout with the military as chairman of the appropriations defense subcommittee, is a Republican who usually votes with his party. But his record is a little too conservative for Beverly's tastes, especially on abortion and gay rights.

"I think people should be able to be in love with whoever they want," she says. "I don't think men have a right to tell women what to do with their bodies."

Beverly supported the Iraq war but now has qualms. She has seen too many soldiers and Marines blown up by improvised explosive devices, the bombs used by insurgents.

"I'm all for (the troops) coming home because these IEDs are vicious," she says.

She is no fan of politicians, even though her husband is one.

"The world would be a much better place without partisanship," she says. But she is protective of Bill's reputation and says that when he retires, she might run for his seat if she doesn't like the candidates.

"I don't have a lot of political knowledge and I don't know much about the system. But I think I would be better than a lot of these people in state politics. I would do what's right for the people."

She is a Republican so she can vote for Bill in primary elections, but at least once she voted against him. In 1984, she voted for Democrat Robert Kent, a former wig salesman who changed his name from Ivan Korunek because he wanted a stronger name. He had little money and got trounced, but Beverly liked his honesty. She always prefers the underdog.

A few months ago, Beverly read that the Army was tightening its rules about when wounded soldiers could accept donations.

She was outraged. She feared the crackdown would discourage donors and intimidate soldiers.

She sat down at her computer and fired off a letter to President Bush. It began, "My name is Beverly Young, wife of Chairman Bill Young of Florida. In my 20 years in Washington I honestly believed there was nothing more that could shock me, but I was wrong."

A White House aide wrote back to say that the Pentagon would look into Beverly's complaints.

Her letter violated an unspoken rule for congressional wives, that they are to be seen and not heard. But Beverly didn't care. She was furious that an Army official would try to restrict donations.

"Why the hell did some idiot make that stupid comment and put it in the paper?" she told a reporter. "It has scared the wounded."

The Army insisted the rules were not discouraging anyone and that soldiers were still getting donations swiftly. But Beverly didn't believe it.

"F--- that!" she later said. "Print that: F--- that! These kids ought to be able to get anything they want from a grateful American."

Because of her complaints, Congress is changing the law.

Marine Lance Cpl. Josh Callihan was shot four times in the back in a training exercise. The bullets hit his spinal cord, leaving him partially paralyzed.

When he heard the Youngs wanted to see him, he expected the usual political visit: a handshake, a few snapshots and they would be gone.

But the Youngs came every day. When his condition deteriorated, Bill and Beverly acted as his family, meeting with doctors, discussing treatments.

Callihan was so heavily medicated, he was a zombie. He stopped eating and simply sat in his bed, staring into space. Bill and Beverly conferred with his doctors, who said his prognosis was not good. They wanted to transfer him to the psychiatric ward.

Beverly broke into tears. She left the meeting and went to Callihan's bedside.

"You know something, Marine?" she whispered in his ear. "You are a damn disgrace. If you were a real Marine, you would just pull out of this. I will get Gen. Jones (the head of the Marine Corps) down here and we will kick your a-- if you don't get better."

It was as if someone flipped a switch inside him. Callihan came to life and started talking to Beverly. He did not have to go to the psych ward.

When Callihan recovered, Rep. Young hired him for his congressional office. When he needed a place to stay, Bill and Beverly let him live at their home.

Callihan, who now works for a congressman in his home state of Idaho, says Beverly's tough love was the spark he needed.

"It got me fired up," he says. "She was instrumental in me surviving. If it hadn't been for her, I would have literally fallen through the cracks."

Washington bureau chief Bill Adair can be reached at adair@sptimes.com or (202) 463-0575.

HOW TO CONTRIBUTE

Here are groups that work with Beverly Young to assist wounded Marines, soldiers and sailors:

INJURED MARINE SEMPER FI FUND

825 College Blvd.

Suite 102 PMB 609

Oceanside, CA 92057

(703) 640-0181

www.semperfifund.org

ARMED FORCES FOUNDATION

16 North Carolina Ave. S.E.

Washington, D.C. 20003

(202) 547-4713

www.armedforcesfoundation.org


Caption: Beverly Young greets Charles "Buddy" Mays as he leaves the VA Medical Center in Tampa on Friday.; Young kisses Peter Herrick, 38, of Fort White at the James A. Haley VA Medical Center in Tampa. He lost a leg and is paralyzed from an attack in; Iraq.; Photo: PHOTO, CHERIE DIEZ, (2)

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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:11 PM
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1. Good Lord.
:banghead:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:13 PM
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2. K&Vote#1.
Peace.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:18 PM
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3. whoa.
I think I'm in love.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:19 PM
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4. So I see she pulled a "George Patton" with that one Marine.
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 10:21 PM by Kurovski
And I wonder--is screaming in someone's ear a substitute for, or an addition to, pumping a stomach for a drug overdose?

She's a colorful character, and is genuinely concerned about the troops.

I admire her choice of some certain words, too. :-)

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:20 PM
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5. She's interesting
certainly doesn't fit the mold of most Repub congressmen's wives.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:23 PM
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6. Still no photos of her in chambers in that t-shirt?
:shrug:
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MikeStl Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:23 PM
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7. Yeah...
I don't think I'd want to tango with her by telling her I that I thought it was staged. :D
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:28 PM
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11. Hehehehe...sounds more like she was TARGETED by
BushCo for kicking his ass over the treatment of our wounded troops.
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:32 PM
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16. Yeah, I'm flashing on Martha Mitchell here? Hope she makes the
talk show rounds, but I bet she's too busy DOING THE RIGHT THING to consider such a frivolous idea...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:24 PM
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8. Let me ust say..
... that after reading so many lies and fabrication in the mainstream media over the last few years, I approach every thing I read there with a healthy, maybe more than healthy, dose of skepticism.

That said, ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE AND NOT A PUFF PIECE, it just goes to show how dangerous generalizations are - because I can totally respect this person even if she is a Republican :)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:31 AM
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59. The hubby sounded legitimately pissed off
He spent time on the House floor bitching about how Bush was talking about supporting the troops while someone wearing a shirt supporting the troops was being booted out.

She sounds like a rare one that actually puts her money where her mouth is.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:45 AM
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74. i hear ya!
she sounds like an honest, no nonsense type of person - i like her views and can respect her. that in itself, respect from dems, would most likely make her a target for the repukes. they don't like "mouthy" women!

i wonder if she and cindy have met...
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:24 PM
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9. Alright!
If that character composite is correct, she'll be quite a sight to behold on the witness stand when Cindy holds the Capitol Police to account for their unnecessarily rough treatment of her. :popcorn:
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:24 PM
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10. I am in awe.
How did this country survive before she was born?

I will now admit that I didn't read the entire post. I don't think I could live with myself, I only got to the seventh paragraph and I already feel inadequate.

What is that word I am thinking of, oh yes hyperbole.
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:28 PM
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12. Great find, Hooptie!! I love this gal! WOW. Thank you! n/t
ps yup, guess she got ejected, alright...
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:29 PM
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13. She Pissed Off the Wrong People, Obviously...
...but she proves that not all Republicans are bad people. I would probably disagree with her on some issues, but I would still respect her in the end. My problem has never been with all conservatives, just the wackjob neocons & fundie Christians. This woman is more like the Republicans I used to get along with just fine. Wish there were more of the ones like her...sigh.

Tammy
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:29 PM
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14. So what?
She's a military supporter and she cusses.

So do I.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:42 PM
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36. Damn straight
She got a nice boot out of the House while Sheehan got bruised and put in jail for her first amendment rights. Excuse me while I don't give a shit.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:01 AM
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45. Well, some black guy got his ass beaten in by a cop somewheres in America
yesterday for walking down the street and being black... so excuse me while I don't give a shit about Cindy getting a bruise...

Of course, she shouldn't have been roughed up and of course she should sue if it's valid.

Just making a point.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:04 AM
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48. You're missing the point obviously
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 12:05 AM by FreedomAngel82
This woman was very rude and disrespectful to the cop (called him an idiot) and she was not thrown in jail or roughed up. Cindy just went in and sat down and unzipped her jacket from being hot and they told her she had to leave and pushed her around and was very awful to her and she was very polite to them but SHE got thrown in jail and bruised up. So why didn't they throw the other woman in jail since she had the same crime? Did you read Cindy's account of what happened?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:22 AM
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66. It's not Mrs Young's fault that she wasn't arrested
Blame the capitol police if you're to blame anyone for the lack of consistency.

This woman sounds like she genuinely cares about the troops and does a heck of a lot more than the rest of congressional wives who are more concerned with their next cocktail party and keeping up with the sleazy gossip.

I'd love to hear her opinion of Cindy Sheehan...if she has half the heart that appears in this article, I would bet she feels a lot of compassion for Cindy's loss.

If it were my son in a military hospital and suffereing grave wounds, I would welcome Mrs. Young to help watch over him.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:23 AM
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67. Of course they're making more noise to the media than Sheehan
Sorry I just still don't buy it.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:47 AM
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75. don't you wonder what she has to say about the situation?
she's probably been "silenced", but for how long?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:31 PM
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15. if 1/10 of this is true she is 100xs a better person then I
Go get em Bev!
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 10:04 AM
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78. Oh Baby Botany Read My Story About Ben & Bev She Is a Slag
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:34 PM
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17. I'm certain she'll be pleased to provide photographic proof of her story
One picture of her in the chamber last night wearing her shirt and being asked to leave. Just one picture. One.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:39 PM
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21. I like this woman, but I have to go with you on this one.
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 10:43 PM by Kurovski
Don't photographers LOOK for stuff like this when they're working?
Events out of the ordinary?

"Trust but verify."

I still lean mighty heavily toward believing it all happened as she says.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:44 PM
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22. Particularly since Cindy had just been led out of the chamber
The photographers who took so many pictures of Cindy's ejection didn't know Mrs. Young from a hole in the wall. They probably would have thought that any other person being talked to about their attire was a cohort of Cindy's, so they were bound to have snapped pictures of the confrontation. Yet, we haven't see a single photo. That flies in the face of all logic.

I'm waiting for proof before I buy this story of the Youngs. It may be true, but without the photos, there is absolutely no verification.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:51 PM
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40. And it hasn't happend yet has it?
Last night the media was all around Cindy Sheehan and now they are her. Mission Accomplished.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:56 PM
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42. So it would seem. Without any verification, too. Typical M$M.
Why insist on photographic evidence when they've got a repub's word instead? :eyes:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:35 PM
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18. she was actually pretty cool on CNN
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 10:38 AM
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81. As a soldier's mom, you might want to read another account here:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:37 PM
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19. There Isn't Even A Moment Of Contemplation For Me Thinking It Was Staged.
Of course it wasn't. Some things just are what they are. This is one of those things.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:38 PM
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20. Well, I agree with her on 2 things. "People should be able to love whoever
they want. I don't think men have a right to tell women what to do with their bodies."

And I admire her genuine support for the wounded.

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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:44 PM
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23. "She is a Republican so she can vote for Bill in primary elections"
I didn't think she sounded like the Cons of today.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:48 PM
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24. HooptieWagon please read
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 10:48 PM by proud patriot
In the future please limit your snips of articles
to 4 paragraphs as per the Democratic Underground
copyright rules .

proud patriot Moderator
Democratic Underground
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:55 PM
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28. my apology, moderator
I figured there probably was a limit, but I just couldn't figure out where to snip it.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:49 PM
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25. I like this woman - Beverly Young - I will have my eyes and ears
open for more from her. She could be the best witness Cindy could have every hoped for. I saw her on CNN and she was like this article said - gutsy and pissed off. Go, Bev.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:49 PM
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26. Bwahahaha! That's the best propoganda piece I have read all day!
This is like the shit published in the 19th Century.

Sorry, I don't buy it.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:13 AM
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77. Here's another link I found
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/23/Southpinellas/Gifts_for_soldiers_wo.shtml

"The defense spending bill approved by Congress this week includes a provision that prevents the Army from restricting gifts to wounded soldiers.

The change was prompted by Beverly Young, the wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young of Indian Shores, who discovered several months ago that the Army was requiring a legal review before gifts worth more than $20 could be given to wounded soldiers.

She complained to her husband - and the Pentagon - and wrote an angry letter to President Bush. She said the policy would discourage donors and intimidate soldiers.

Rep. Young, a Republican who chairs the Appropriations Defense Subcommittee, decided to settle the matter by changing the law.

"The message to the Defense Department is very clear," he said."

Heh. Wrote an angry letter to the President. Do you think he was scared of her too? Women in tshirts. Save me Uncle Dick! Save me!!!

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 10:07 AM
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79. Well, this may interest you more. Eyewitness testimony.
I'll add this now since someone felt the need to kick this thread to the top. It seems Bev has another side to her. What. A. Shock.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=303952&mesg_id=303952
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:53 PM
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27. It seemed very odd to me that the wife of a Congressman
would show up at the SOTU address wearing a "support the troops-defending our freedom" t-shirt. Most people do not wear tees in Januray to begin with (Cindy's was long-sleeve). It just doesn't add up.

Has anyone seen the picture of the tee?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4672388.stm

Talk about tacky.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:04 AM
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47. Are there any photos of her at official events? How does she normally
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 12:04 AM by Wordie
dress at important events?

Here's a link to the Congressman's website. Are there any photos of her there that you could post?

http://www.house.gov/young/

(I would do it, but I have an old computer with not enough memory and the site apparently has a LOT of photos, so I have problems with it. Just one or two posted here I could probably handle.)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:08 AM
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49. I didn't see any
Just of him doing work and stuff. I saw him with past president's from Nixon to Bush II and people visiting with him. Nothing else. :shrug:
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:18 AM
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55. Well, I'm sure there must be a lot of them someplace. Congressmen always
bring their wives to those important political events, so those picures are out there.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:01 PM
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29. Print that "Fuck That"
Reminds me of "Asses of Evil". She's a THK Republican wife. With women like them, I still have hope for this country. Thank you so so much for that story, it was fantabulous!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:45 PM
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39. DO NOT compare her to THK
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 11:45 PM by FreedomAngel82
DO NOT compare her to THK. Teresa wouldn't have worn something like that to something so important for her husband. Teresa has class.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:59 AM
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62. Probably not
But the feisty attitude is the same.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:24 AM
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68. Teresa's still classy
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:17 PM
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30. Is it just me...
Or is there a case of "fucking nuts!" going on?

http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/brghtsd.mp3
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:40 PM
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33. I don't know what to think anymore...
...up is down, good is bad, war is peace....my head spins.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:34 PM
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31. IF she was wearing the T she WAS protesting Bush's treatment of the troops
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 12:10 AM by fed-up
with all the cuts to VA care that this administration has done. So yes, she was evicted for crossing Bush.

I still would love to see a pic of her in her shirt.

I admire her cajones (sp?)...



edited to correct spelling, I swear I typed an o the first time, it was the "j" I was worried about..thanks
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:40 PM
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34. Cajones!
:)
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:39 PM
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32. Am I the only one the link doesn't work for?
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:44 PM
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38. Let me try and fix it
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 11:46 PM by HooptieWagon
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:01 AM
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46. Oops...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:40 PM
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35. And that means what?
She was rude to a cop and Cindy Sheehan was not and she was hurt and thrown in jail while this woman was not. This is supposed to mean shit to me?
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:53 PM
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41. OP wasn't about Cindy
and doesn't excuse how Cindy was treated. Point was that Beverly really does support the troops, and that it seems unlikely her ejection was staged or phony. Just MO of course, but she doesn't seem the type to go along with a rethug phony ejection.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:56 PM
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43. So where's her file suit like Cindy's?
Visiting with them is nice. But lots of republican congressmen do that and turn around and stab them in the back. Talk is cheap. I could care less what she does in her personal life. Where is the proof of her wearing the shirt? Has she filed a first amendment suit yet like Cindy has? If not than it's still phony ass anger and a dog and pony show. She should put her money where her mouth is and stand with Cindy and file a suit too. If not than I could give a damn. Her husband's party (and obviously she's a republican too) is taking away our freedom of speech and now they're pretending to be outraged, so why isn't she fighting for it? Why did she get the nice treatment but they were horrible to Cindy?
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:15 AM
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53. I dunno
Maybe she is planning to file, but hasn't yet. Maybe she doesn't want to embarrass her husband. Maybe she's embarrassed about the language she used. Maybe she got an apology and figured thats enough. Who knows?

Just because she didn't or doesn't plan to file a suit doesn't mean her story isn't true. And she doesn't seem the type to lie on behalf of the rethugs.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:19 AM
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56. So why was
Cindy able to file already and she hasn't? Embarrass her husband? Malloy just reported he was on the floor screaming "Shame, shame!" about what happened with his wife. But not about Cindy Sheehan's treatment. They only care about themselves and THEIR freedom of speech. Nobody's else. It's pure BS.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:31 AM
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60. Cindy has already filed a lawsuit? Link please
I hadn't seen anything indicating she'd filed. Where can I get more info?

onenote
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:44 PM
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37. If she was so pissed off where's her file suit?
She hasn't filed a first amendment suit yet has she? Until than it's still a stage phony ass thing. Just look at how the police treated her compared to how they treated Cindy. Cindy was nice and poliet and they bruised her and threw her in jail while this woman called the man an idiot and was disrespectful and they did shit to her. I could give a damn about her "supporting the troops." Did her husband send them off to war? Does her husband vote party line where it concerns armor? Does her husband vote for veteran benefits?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:02 AM
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63. She wasn't arrested
I think she was given an opportunity to something about her shirt too. That they were treated so differently. I don't hold the actions of the capitol police or even her husband against her. She's working hard for those troops and that's more than alot of people do.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:58 PM
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44. I am left thinking how alike she and Sheehan seem after reading that.
They both seem totally committed and single minded. Says Marine Brig. Gen. John Kelly: "She can be a royal pain in the a-- - but only to people who don't care about the troops." (I see the similarity not necessarily in style, but in determination.)

Mrs. Young also seems a truly admirable person, but, and again I want to stress that I'm only speculating, aren't there a lot of gung-ho military types that just hate Sheehan, because they believe she is undermining the morale of the troops. I'm just wondering if her work - which is truly impressive - with all these young miltary guys combined with what apparently is quite a forceful and tenacious personality might be just the thing that might lead her to participate in something like a staged t-shirt ejection.

It would be interesting to find out what she thinks about Sheehan. Does she identify with her, as a mother of a young military man who was killed in duty? Or does she see her as a traitor, criticizing the Commander in Chief, and undermining the troops?

It wouldn't be the first time that gung-ho military supporters got involved in funny business directed at people coming from the left, advocating peace, after all. (I'm thinking Swifties here.)

But there's this too, which argues against the idea that she may be too gung-ho:
Beverly supported the Iraq war but now has qualms. She has seen too many soldiers and Marines blown up by improvised explosive devices, the bombs used by insurgents.

So, I'm still uncertain. The thing I want to know is what she thinks of Cindy Sheehan.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:08 AM
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50. "The thing I want to know is what she thinks of Cindy Sheehan."
Hmmm. I suppose that she and Cindy now have bit in common. Maybe she should invite Cindy over for a chat, or vise versa (sp?).
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:10 AM
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52. That would be very telling if that happened or anyone asked her
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 12:10 AM by FreedomAngel82
I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:13 AM
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65. I want to know if she is the sort who sees Sheehan as the devil incarnate.
...as so many gung-ho military people seem to.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 11:06 AM
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82. I've Met Bev And IMHO She Would Hate Cindy The Way She Hated Me
That strident phony bitch tried to worm her way into a sick kids room for a feel good photo op. My son Ben basically told her to get lost, nicely of course. See my link and I am convinced she HATES CINDY because Cindy is real! BTW did you see where she has 3 BOYS? 18, 21, & 29. WHY THE FUCK AREN'T THEY IN IRAQ?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x303952
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:37 PM
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84. Well, her husband didn't care...
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/01/AR2006020100348.html

This was found on Page 2...


"When your wife is insulted and embarrassed, you do tend to get a little offended," Young said yesterday, explaining his upbraiding of Gainer that night and his fervent speech on the House floor yesterday morning, when he waved the shirt and bellowed about his wife's ejection: "Shame! Shame!"

Young said he wouldn't be so mad if it were just Sheehan. "I totally disagree with everything she stands for," he said. But by removing his wife, Gainer's officers clearly "acted precipitously," Young said.


And Binka's thread reveals some more unpleasant information about the woman. I highly doubt that this woman likes Cindy Sheehan. I know for certain that her husband doesn't.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:09 AM
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51. Your link doesn't go to anywhere
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:21 AM
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57. too late to edit OP
Check further down the thread for a working link I posted, or go to sptimes.com , click "washington" in the column on the left, find search, and type in "Beverly Young" and look for the article by Bill Adair published Dec 19, 2005.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:38 AM
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71. working link here
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:18 AM
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54. Malloy just got finished talking about her and
saying now how Mrs. Young was not charged with anything or put in jail while Cindy was. Young was on the House floor yesterday "screaming" about his wife and not Cindy Sheehan saying "shame, shame!" So where were they standing up for Cindy Sheehan and HER freedom of speech? So, see they only care about freedom of speech when it's THEM. Neither Young's cared at all about Cindy and the anti-war message and their right to speak. Only themselves.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:25 AM
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58. Deleted message
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:25 AM
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69. Aww you can't handle it?
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 01:25 AM by FreedomAngel82
Has she defended Sheehan yet on the teevee? You have no place in telling me to shut up hon.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:04 AM
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64. Maybe they ddin't know????
But I'll tell you that I'll call their local office tomorrow and make sure they do know and get their response.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 10:09 AM
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80. Let us know what you hear
It would be interesting to get their take on Sheehan's treatment.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:46 AM
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61. Puff piece, propoganda or not, anyone who really does all this
for the troops and think people should marry who they want and lives humbly - what's to hate? I don't care if she really got thrown out or not. Both women were acting on behalf of the troops - one to make sure they were remembered and the other wanting to end the war to protect them.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:37 AM
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70. Of course it was not "staged," but it was a phony "bust."
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 01:39 AM by ConsAreLiars
She is rightously indignant and an innocent victim, but thw whole operation was concocted to muddy up the blatant political attack on Sheehan by trying to fake up some "equivalent" suppression of free speech on the Republican side. Your assumption that she had to be "in on it" if it was really fake is naive.

(edit typo)
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:19 AM
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72. That is quite possible...
... probable, even. Cap police, the SS, somebody, probably figured they had to "bust" a RWer to appear even-handed, and they probably knew Beverly Young was wearing a shirt also. Still, that doesn't mean she was in on the plot. I seriously doubt Bev Young went to the SOTU intending to be a part of a plot to remove Cindy Sheehan, and I don't think she is lying about the incident. She was treated better than Cindy, but is that her fault? No....

MHO is that the SOTU ceased being a serious and solumn (sp) event years ago, even before the repukes waved their purple fingers in the air. While I don't think it should become a protest rally, I don't have a problem with sitting quietly wearing a T shirt that isn't blatantly in-your-face (like "Impeach Bush", though I'd have loved to see that). I don't think Cindy did anything out of order, and she shouldn't have been removed, let alone arrested. Neither should Bev Young have been removed.
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balzac Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:30 AM
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73. I said "wittingly or unwittingly" she was used to drown out Sheehan
She's just the right woman for this. Most women would say emphatically decline if you ask them to wear a t-shirt to the SOTU address. Not a woman like this. She's perfect for the role. It's better if she isn't in on it, for obvious reasons.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 02:54 AM
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76. Yes. My argument...
... is with the DUers jumping to the conclusion Bev Young was in on the plan to remove Cindy, I just don't think so. It's still more likely, IMO, that Bev Young was asked to leave just because she had any emblazoned T shirt on, and not as a counter-balance to removing Cindy. However, if she and her husband were to find out they were used as patsies... OMG the shit would fly. I'm not sure the rethugs would risk pissing off a pretty reliable R vote who is unopposed most elections by such a stunt. Shoot, Young must be one of the few repugs that isn't tainted by the rethug corruption scandal- they might need him to be speaker or majority leader soon...
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 11:24 AM
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83. OK. Love that she visits with the troops, BUT!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 11:25 AM by maxrandb
Here is something that I find interesting from the OP article.

"Bill divorced his first wife and married Beverly in 1985. They have two sons, Billy, 21, and Patrick, 18, and Robbie, 29, from her first marriage."

Now, I guess the OP point, or spin on this lady, is that she's such a tobacco spitting, hell-fire, cussing like a Sailor, little wench that just loves our troops, and is just "pleased as punch" that she's so supportive, and that maybe, I should kiss her ass because she takes time out of her busy schedule to visit wounded Soldiers.

I'm SURE that her sons Billy, Patrick, and Robbie are all with the Marines in Iraq. Or did they have "other priorities".

Is she just another Repuke that "talks the talk"??? I'm sorry, I refuse to kiss her ass. Support the troops Miss Young, send your boys over too.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:07 PM
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85. FYI: DU Copyright rules prohibit the posting of entire articles
Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs and must include a link to the original source.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:09 PM
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86. I'm sure it has nothing to do with her husband's upcoming election
right?

Think about it.

It might have nothing to do with Sheehan. But I think the couple planned and staged this, knowing she would get asked to leave, to get some free advertising.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:34 PM
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87. locking
discussion has run it's course
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