The whole point of Sheehan vs Young

[FreedomAngel82]

Here's the whole point of Sheehan vs Young. You may not agree or like Jones but he does make the excellent point with this whole debate and what we can look forward to in the future. The person with descent arrested and abused while the other one not harmed at all.

Link: http://infowars.com/articles/media/sheehan_mainstream_media_spin_machine.htm

The point: Secondly, Young wasn't arrested, she was merely asked to leave. Sheehan was forcibly dragged out of the building and handcuffed and held in detention for hours. Young was asked politely to leave, the Waffen SS wannabe that arrested Sheehan barked the word "Protester" before he dived in. Young argued loudly with officers and called them "idiots" while Sheehan calmly pleaded for them to let her leave quietly.

It is clear that both T-shirts were making political statements, but only the anti-government shirt was deemed to be an arrestable offence.

Furthermore, would Young have been asked to leave if the Sheehan incident hadn't already occurred and Bush's security goons weren't wary of saving face?

With the enveloping stranglehold of 'free speech zones' at any political event, the parameters have been framed whereby any political message or any information period is classified as a felony. New Patriot Act provisions that allow secret service personnel to arrest protesters en masse dovetails to ensure the elimination of free speech in America.

And you don't even have to be at a political event to be targeted.

[Cleita]

1. I don't understand why he thinks Sheehan's Tshirt statement

was anti-government. Stating the number of dead soldiers just isn't anti-government in any way. It's pretty anti-Bush, but since when is disliking your President anti-government?

If this is a crime then we need to go back and arrest all those people who made anti-Clinton statements back during the Monica scandal. I would put Ann Coulter up there on top of the list with the most derogatory and accusatory of the statements about Clinton.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Probably Bush I guess

:shrug: Since the republicans control all the government now. That's all I can think of.

[Sydnie]

2. the difference is --- she is married to a republican congressman n/t

[soup]

3. I have a couple of questions.

So many threads on this, not quite sure where to ask. Figure I'd give it a shot here. Sorry if it's the wrong spot, since it doesn't address your original post.

Odd, little nagging things that won't let me sleep.

Does anyone have any idea what Mrs. Young wore to the SOTU last year? or in 2004, 2003, 2002, etc.? Why the decision to wear a t-shirt to the SOTU This year if not before?

and wouldn't a picture of the gallery surrounding Laura show Mrs. Young seated there (or an empty seat after she was asked to leave), since she said she "was sitting in the gallery's front row, about six seats from first lady Laura Bush"?

This whole thing with Mrs. Young is just screwy for lack of a better word right now. I don't trust it. Not saying it didn't happen. Just saying it doesn't quite smell right.

[FreedomAngel82]

5. I wonder that too

If she's worn it before or what. :shrug: And why not in 2003 when it all began? :shrug: And yes surely there's a picture if she was close to Laura Bush as she claimed.

[soup]

6. Picture.

Not sure if it's been posted yet. And this probably isn't the spot to post it. I'm kind of out of it.

Here's a pic from the St Petersburg Times:


Roll Call Photos
15 MINUTES INTO THE SPEECH: Beverly Young, wearing a shirt that says "Support the troops - defending our freedom!" is asked to leave the gallery. Police tell her that her message is an unlawful demonstration and that she cannot return.
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/02/02/Worldandnation/Tempest_in_a_T_shirt_.shtml

[Beaverhausen]

7. finally a picture of her in the gallery

You should probably start a thread to stop the naysayers.

[soup]

8. I'm running on empty today, Beaverhausen.

Can hardly put three words together. Think I've seen too many ** quotes. Feel free to use it if you'd like.

and again my apologies for leading this thread miles from it's original intent.

[Wordie]

9. Great find, soup.

And I hadn't heard that her arrest occurred 15 minutes after the speech started, so that's helpful too, in trying to understand all this.

Maybe the capitol police (or somebody) felt, after they had arrested Sheehan, that they had to be equal opportunity fashion police, in order not to be accused of bias.

Thanks again for finding that. It's what everyone has been looking for.