CIA, FBI and Nat. Intel (Negroponte)--holding hearing on threats now on

[rodeodance]

cspan.

[rodeodance]

1. I do not know yet what committee this is-or who called it.

[rodeodance]

2. says all Directors (WH) will be at this hearing. tune in.

[rodeodance]

4. well, I see Hatch so far (grrrowl)

[savemefromdumbya]

3. Can't stand the fact that Mr Iran Contra-Negroponte

is controlling our nat intel!

[rodeodance]

5. I know what you mean.

[rodeodance]

6. here somes "I will do what you want Mr. Pres:"-Sen. Roberts

[rodeodance]

9. oh, and here goes Gen Hayden--the man who does not what is in the

4th amendment.

[rodeodance]

10. Roberts is the one stalling on 'phase II" of the 9/11 report.

[savemefromdumbya]

38. There he is large as life

yet this man is a rogue, criminal like the rest of them.

[Catchawave]

7. Aren't they voting for a majority leader today too?

I believe I heard around noon....when DU's site will be down :(

[rodeodance]

13. yes, you are right on both counts.

[rodeodance]

14. Rockerfeller is there Minority --for the Dems.

[rodeodance]

15. it is the Intelligence Committee.

[rodeodance]

16. yeah. Sen FEINGOLD is a NEW member!!

[Skidmore]

8. Pat Roberts chairing.

Hey, Pat, where's that Phase II report?

We know which direction this is heading, don't we?

[rodeodance]

11. I see that .

[rodeodance]

12. I see Sen. Levin so far for the Dems.

[rodeodance]

18. I am so glad to see Fiengold as a new member of this committee.

[Catchawave]

17. Feingold new member on Intel comm !!!!

Sweet.

[Greeby]

19. A reminder of Intel Committee members

http://intelligence.senate.gov/members.htm

[rodeodance]

20. Judging by what Roberts is saying in his opening statements--this IS

a whitewash--already instilling FEAR.

[rodeodance]

22. says we MUST support the people in front of us (Negroponte et al).

[helderheid]

54. UGH Hatch is on the committee!

:puke:

[Greeby]

21. Negroponte, Hayden, Mueller and Goss at one table?

:scared:

[rodeodance]

23. sounds like Rove wrote Roberts opening statements!!

[rodeodance]

25. Roberts wants MORE threat resourses!

[Skidmore]

24. Well we should be neck deep in pure BS and blatant lies

by 9:30.

[rodeodance]

27. Well, seems to me that this is just another WH propaganda hearing.

[kentuck]

26. The whole purpose of hearing is to build defense for Bush...

in his breaking the law.

Because they never come forward to testify.

[rodeodance]

28. yes, you are right.

[rodeodance]

29. Roberts says committee conducting 'oversight"--seems to be Rubber-

stamping WH polices thus far. What a joke.

[rodeodance]

30. roberts says have been conducting oversight--Dems have asked for

meetings.

[rodeodance]

32. so he has sceduled Dems to meet with Gonzalaz et all. DAH!!

[Skidmore]

31. We are in danger primarily because a large bunch of

chickencrap, chickenhawk Republican politicians put their lives and safety above that of the people. Roberts sounded almost hysterical with that they think we are "dust" stuff.

[rodeodance]

33. says 'this hearing will EDUCATE the American People"--oh oh oh oh

[rodeodance]

34. Rockerfeller up now--says diversion to Irag set us back in getting al-quid

[rodeodance]

35. Good--Jay R. is also educating the people--YEAH.

[rodeodance]

36. Jay hitting on fact that Congress was not informed of snooping which is

the law.

[rodeodance]

37. Jay--WH 'selectively releasing reports to support war" GOOD for him.

[rodeodance]

39. Whow--Jay saying Intel has been co-opted by WH!! whow. I hope this

makes the news!

[rodeodance]

42. Jay saying WH laid down edic saying they can not talk to Committee

members. he is really laying it on.

[Catchawave]

41. YES...faulty intel led us into Iraq...GO JAY!!!

[Rose Siding]

64. Rocky asked to go into closed session for the answer

He's circling- citing NYT article about FBI's criticism of quality of intel

[Greeby]

40. "Concerned that Intel Cmte's independence co-opted by the WH"

Good one :applause:

[Catchawave]

43. Yep, he quoted the LAW forbiding that!!

[rodeodance]

45. talking of WH 'press strategy" of last week-designed to promote WH

policy.

[rodeodance]

44. saying the WH has controll over Intel people such as Negroponte--they

follow WH ideology--at the expense to the safety of the ameican people.

[rodeodance]

46. whow-saying Intell has become a WH public relations arm. whow whow.

[rodeodance]

47. well, jay--you get an A++++++++++++++++++

[rodeodance]

48. Jay is slapping are members in front of him!

[rodeodance]

49. Jay keeps talking of the "WH public relations campaign" whow whow.

[rodeodance]

50. Jay wants to know names of WH staff who forbidden talking to all members

of the Intell. committee. He is doing great.

[rodeodance]

52. Jay reminding him that committee (dems) will be asking questions--not

just an opportunity for Negroponte to say what is being done to prevent attachs.

[helderheid]

51. K & R thank you!!

[rodeodance]

53. Negroponte on now. (I imagine we will the FEAR card played).

[helderheid]

55. TERRA TERRA TERRA!!!

[rodeodance]

56. I have to leave for work--damn.

[Catchawave]

57. Sounds like Rove/Hughes wrote his comments

"forewarned is forearmed" ?

"protecting Amerika!"

"the battle is far from over"

...blah, blah, blah

[Skidmore]

59. This whole war has served as a PR campaign to get * elected

and some sorry excuses for congressional seats to ride his coattails.

[helderheid]

58. WHEN WILL HE SHUDDUP??

[Skidmore]

60. Well, not until he presents a case for going to war in Iran & NK

apparently. WMD argument being trotted out as I type this.

[Catchawave]

61. DU's really slowing down on me now.....

so will check back later this afternoon to catch up.

Thanks Rodeodance for the head's up on this :hi:

[Skidmore]

62. Sounds like Negroponte sees demons everywhere.

We need to go to war with everyone at the same time.

[bigtree]

63. Negeoponte's testimony on Iran revealed a weak case

He said Iran was anti-U.S. who in the rest of the world isn't?

He said Iran had tensions with its neighbors. not any more so than we do.

He said Iran had missiles to, as he admitted, DEFEND their country against outside aggression. that would only threaten the U.S. if we meddled militarily like we did in Iraq.

And he mentioned Iran's ability to trade oil with regional partners which, he rightly asserts, undermines our efforts to turn them off of Iran.tough shit, Iran hasn't threatened the U.S. outside of our own threats to destabilize their country and potentially support or resort to a military attack against targets within their country. That's a legitimate defense for Iran, notwithstanding our desire to preemptively punish them for proceeding with a nuclear weapon's program that we admit they are not yet equipped for.

[Rose Siding]

65. Wyden's up

When Rocky brought it up, Mueller disputed the NYT article in which FBI agents made fun of intel that NSA was turning over to them.

[doublethink]

67. Wyden's finally getting my attention on this hearing.

Get um Wyden. :).......

[berner59]

68. Wyden nailed it...

He said their answers aren't good enough - they're saying "trust us" and not verify...NOT good enough!! WAY TO GO!!! Next week should be interesting...I don't think this committee is happy...keep it up!!

[Skidmore]

70. Asked about whether or not Poindexter's programs were

ever closed down. Take it back to Iran-Contra. Yeah!

[in_cog_ni_to]

66. Wyden's not buying the story.

"There are NO RULES on data mining"

[Rose Siding]

69. He was angry - I don't think we have enough details

to understand what they're talking about. I feel like they have lots of sub-text underneath these public remarks :(

[berner59]

72. Roberts...jerk...

He asked the Senators to keep the questions to "threats" not off topic like the NSA spy program...not too blatant Pat... Isn't the program aimed at stopping threats?? Dem Senators will probably get back to the NSA...my guess...

[Rose Siding]

74. I hope! Think Roberts'll try to shut it down, or say they're out of order

or some such. You KNOW he doesn't want anything on the record, *under oath* about that program.

[Rose Siding]

71. Oh, Warner wuvs them SOOOO much

leadership....admire...."can't record SMILES on the record"

OH GAG ME

[Rose Siding]

73. O man, Warner says corruption problems in Iraq govt rival the INSURGENCY

as a problem, according to his sources.

[Sydnie]

75. Late to the party as usual - but finally here

thank you rodeodance. You always do such a great job of summarizing what is happening.

[Rose Siding]

Levin's going junkyard dog on their tails

:bounce:

Asking for est of # of terrorists wiretapped- they say no, not even in closed session.

[Sydnie]

77. Levin , not Leahy

:hi:

[Rose Siding]

78. Got it. He says the admin says it's just a few- that they want to be

unchecked by court or Congress

[Roland99]

94. There sure is a lot of stonewalling, email deleting, & paper shredding.

[Sydnie]

76. What??? He can't tell the whole committee what he knows?

Is someone on that committee being tapped? hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

[Sydnie]

79. Proving a negative! Right ... you can't prove anything!

Cheney LIED!!!! That is clear.

[Sydnie]

80. they told Bond that the spotlight is killing all their fun

they can't torture and they can't tap cuz everyone is watching now! boobhoo!


edit - to clarify - the "they" is the people in charge in the field.

[Rose Siding]

81. Bond's spinning- questioning the admin is playing politics and

hurts his son in Iraq? He is acting like a subject and not a citizen, imo.

[berner59]

82. Goss all out of joint for leaking...

How about Plame??? Not too upset about that are you now??? Wow - what hypocracy...

[Rose Siding]

83. Feingold

Concerned about terrorism and that bush is spying without warrants

"can you assure us that there are no other intelligence collection programs that we don't know about?"

Ans: "I'll have to tell you in CLOSED SESSION" crap

[doublethink]

84. I got a question?

Does the 'Chairman'(Roberts in this case) of these hearings have the right to interrupt whenever he wants the other Senators on their time and cut off, argue, stonewall questioning of the panel? Did that make sense? Doesn't the 'Chairman' have his own set of minutes to use just like everybody else and not expect to be interrupted when he uses them by the other Senators? Just that session with Levin questioning the panel, or trying to seemed so out of order on Roberts part with his bullshit interruptions. Peace.

[Rose Siding]

85. Repubs in the House have shut down sessions altogether when

dems asked questions off topic. I think it was Sensenbrenner who did that.

[doublethink]

87. Oh yea .......

my bad, how the hell I could forget that one. Why do I even fathom these people playing fairly anymore at anything is beyond me. I gotta get that out of my head. :dunce: Thanks for keeping me real. Peace. :eyes:

[in_cog_ni_to]

90. The "Plantation" *ahem* owners run Congress as slave owners.

Remember the Gitmo hearings? Sensenbrenner didn't like the questions being asked, the answers being given by witnesses or the witnesses themselves and TURNED OFF THE MICROPHONES AS THE DEMOCRATS WERE ASKING THEIR QUESTIONS! He immediately brought the hearing to a close, refused to answer to a point of order by Nadler and walked out of the room. Yeah, the repukes can do pretty much anything they want and do. They even send Conyers and his hearings to the BASEMENT and refuse to let the Democrats use ANY hearing room in the building. They're a bunch of rat bastards.

Boo's back! :) She's so precious!:hug:

[doublethink]

101. Yea Boo's Back!

I made a promise to her to watch my mouth a bit more in these forums when a suspected freeper shows up! Wish me luck on that one I'm gonna need it! Can you tell Boo's ear is wet in this picture? She like swimming in the pool or just lying down beside it with her ear hanging over the edge on a hot day, thus the wet ear. Silly dawgie! Boo gives a big :hug: back at ya and Isabel!

[Rose Siding]

86. DiFi- Pounding on stonewalling of oversight efforts

"Who decides...that only 8 members of congress are informed" He stalls "Can you answer please" Pres and vice "thank you"

[berner59]

88. Asked WHO makes the decision...

to only brief 8 Senators...and she got Negraponte to say, reluctantly... "The President & Vice President"....woo hoo!!!

She's asking detailed questions about wiretapping...go Diane!!

[Catchawave]

92. Miss part of this...how did the 'thugs answer??????

Go Diane !

[berner59]

98. She just asked Negroponte...no one else....

He tried to fudge it and she said - just answer the question...he paused a bit, then said Bush & Cheney...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

89. SS, Gestapo, and SA now holding hearings...Oh, sorry, wrong thugs.

[Sydnie]

91. Negroponte is saying that every president in the last 50 or 60 years

has done something like this? Is that what he is saying? Why is this criminal even on my screen and in my government?

[berner59]

93. Rockefeller hammering home that....

Executive branch NEEDS to brief congress UNDER THE LAW...and it's not being done!!!

[Catchawave]

96. Goss response to CIA question, NSA not in our area?

WTF? I thought all those communication loopholes were closed since 9-11 ????

[Catchawave]

97. ..defer to DHS now?

Bush's Beauracy !?!

Can we just have ONE BIG FRIGGIN' Dept of Protecting America now??? Geesh.

[Skidmore]

95. Saxby Chambliss....Those talking about this are aiding and abetting

the terraists.

[berner59]

99. Feingold had best response!!

He said no bigger advertisement for this program came from none other than the President during the SOTU!!!! Yeah Russ!!

[Catchawave]

100. Feingold's up.....

obviously, per Negoponte, he asked a "tough question" "not that easy to respond to"

"What motivates the insurgency beyond our occupation?"