D.U. Help! Bush Spied Before 9-11

[Jujiman]

Hi All,
Even though this story appeared two weeks ago,
it has been censored by the M.S.M. and even DemocracyNow!

I called D.N! twice and spoke to Tomiko.
She said they had passed on the info. to the producers and
maybe they would run it...but so far, NOTHING!

I even called N.P.R. and spoke with the ombudsman, but,
still NOTHING!

So if we could ALL call, well then maybe they'd run it...so.

DemocracyNow! # is 212-431-9090
N.P.R. # is 202-513-3232

Thanks to all at D.U. for being here!

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011306Z.shtml

[stop the bleeding]

1. thank you for not letting this article die - the MSM must see this! K&R

[peacetalksforall]

2. There are serious blackouts going on. I'm sure that DU and DNow

have legal considerations. At least we should hope so.

DU = certain things related to 9/11
DNow = pre 9/11?

I don't think it's wise to inundate DNow as we know they operate on a shoestring. We should figure out how to gather everyone's requests and comments and have them sent there in one or a few contacts.

NPR - no comment. I've given up on them. I used to praise their fairness.

[Jujiman]

3. Shoestring?

That's not what I heard.
They now get all kinds of money.
Used to be shoestring...no longer.
We've got to let them know they are
CENSORING this very important story.
:grr:

[stop the bleeding]

7. shoestrings or not - DNow and other media's have as much to lose

as we do as citizens.

If the media does not get this out, there is no telling how many liberties will be trampled on, including the shoestring media outlets. In fact they have almost more at stake than we do.

Lastly I donate to DNow so consider part of my capitalistic rights.

[peacetalksforall]

11. I'm not defending DU or DNow. I am slightly ticked about not being able

to post or respond to certain things on DU that are realted to tidbits or speculation about 9-11. I don't understand it and can only think that there is some legal problem - or threatened problem because I don't think DU is a parallel to some easily rolled-over librarians. (I thank tha majority who don't roll over.)

I want to know it all.

[BuyingThyme]

12. Letting this out leads to MIHOP/LIHOP.

That's what we're (not) dealing with.

[helderheid]

15. good point

[smartvoter]

4. k&r nt

[ClayZ]

5. Kick twice!

:kick: :kick:

[BuyingThyme]

6. We have to let our Senators know. The "hearings" start next week!

We must let the Committee Senators know about this (no, they don't), and we must force them to play Bush's no-warrantless-wiretaps comment at the "hearings."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=67153
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=226611
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2417726
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/bush-caught-on-tape/
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0201/p01s01-uspo.html

We only get one shot at this!

[Dragonbreathp9d]

8. Jesus this is huge

I didnt know that but it does not surprise me!

[BuyingThyme]

9. kcik

[Dragonbreathp9d]

10. Kick

[BuyingThyme]

13. kcik

[helderheid]

14. I posted a thread on this yesterday and was shocked that it fell off the

page - folks, this needs to be hammered!! In the SOTU he claimed had he been able to do this before 9/11, 9/11 would have been prevented.

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

HE WAS SPYING BEFORE 9/11

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[helderheid]

16. we need to get this to Air America as well

[helderheid]

17. please check this out as well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x307296

[Hello_Kitty]

18. Cheney said they didn't prevent 9-11 because they couldn't spy!

Whatta Dick. :grr:

[helderheid]

19. that's what they've been saying. Everyone in the admin is saying that.

[BuyingThyme]

20. Yep.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=67153

[Justice Is Comin]

35. Yeah the daily Bin Laden brief

must have been in braille.

[helderheid]

21. google "transition 2001"

[Jujiman]

22. National Security Agency Declassified

The National Security Agency
Declassified

Internet wiretapping mixes "protected" and targeted messages,
Info Age requires rethinking 4th Amendment limits and policies,
National Security Agency told Bush administration

"Transition 2001" report released through FOIA,
Highlights collection of declassified NSA documents
Posted on Web by National Security Archive, GWU

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 24

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB24/

Wowser GOOD CATCH!
:headbang:

[helderheid]

23. have I welcomed you to DU yet?

:)

[Jujiman]

24. O.M.F.Gosh! Treasure Trove!!

Wow, A huge cache of documents on TOP SECRET GOV. STUFF!

Declassified.

U.S.S. Liberty Documents.

Hillary Clinton Documents.

Document 24: Statement for the Record of NSA Director Lt Gen Michael V. Hayden, USAF before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, April 12, 2000

In a rare public appearance by the NSA director, Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden outlines the regulatory safeguards and oversight mechanisms that are in place to ensure that the agency's electronic surveillance mission does not infringe upon the privacy of U.S. persons, and to respond to recent allegations that NSA provides intelligence information to U.S. companies.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB24


WOWSIE...Pay Dirt Alert!


:headbang:

[helderheid]

25. Holy moly! Glad you looked further!! Thank you!!

[Jujiman]

27. Thanks For The Welcome

I appreciate D.U. and folks like you!

This pre-911 spygate censorship has been reaaaaaallllly bothering me.

:banghead:

[helderheid]

40. Oh... there are so many things about this administration that is bothering

me it's hard to keep up!!

:hug:

[AntiFascist]

26. Hmmm, I wonder if they anything about DC n/t

[helderheid]

28. I'm confused by your comment - can you elaborate?

[AntiFascist]

33. Interesting website....

where the Cato Institute meets anti-statism.

http://maxpages.com/libertarian/

[AntiFascist]

36. I knew these people were anti-Democracy....

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anarcho-capitalism/message/143

"On the eliminative competition and inherent tendency of states
toward centralization and territorial expansion — ultimately to the
point of the establishment of a world government — see Democracy:
The God That Failed , chapters 5, 11, and 12."

[Jujiman]

29. Not Sure...But Check This Out.

Document 27: Statement for the Record by Lieutenant General Michael V. Hayden, Director, National Security Agency/Central Security Service Before the Joint Inquiry of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, October 17, 2002, Unclassified

Hayden, in his testimony to the joint committee intelligence performance prior to the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington of September 11, 2001, addresses three major questions: what did NSA know prior to September 11, what did NSA learn in retrospect, and what had NSA done in response? In his conclusions, Hayden addresses a number of issues - including the relationship between SIGINT and law enforcement, and the line between the government's need for counterterrorism information and the privacy interests of individuals residing in the United States.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB24/

:headbang:

[AntiFascist]

34. Interesting report covering "carrot operations" and other pre 9/11....

efforts.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB55/crs20010206.pdf

[BuyingThyme]

30. kcik

[helderheid]

31. ditto

[BuyingThyme]

32. This is probably what we're gonna be doing all next week, so

I figure we best get it going now.

[helderheid]

39. I totally agree!

[NoAmericanTaliban]

37. Welcome to DU. Great Article. Randi Rhodes would talk about this.

[noamnety]

38. You may as well give up on NPR

This is from an email I got in Nov 04 from a friend who used to be a regular on-air personality at NPR, in response to a note I sent him on election fraud:

"And I know, the reporting in the U.S. has been dismal, not only at NPR but also the New York Times. I'll take a careful look at what you've got on your site. I'm sure I can't get anyone at NPR to pay attention. (I mean, one of the reasons I felt I couldn't stay there was that they covered Monica Lewinsky as if it were a legitimate subset of the Whitewater investigation.) They hammered Clinton and have given Bush a pass, all in the name of appearing non-partisan. In other words, I'm sure that the reason you're not hearing this stuff on NPR is not because they're unaware of it."

[helderheid]

41. kick

[stop the bleeding]

42. what about PBS ???

[helderheid]

43. YES - Good idea!

[stop the bleeding]

44. I have one good idea once in a blue moon, and

:kick:

[helderheid]

45. LOL!! BTW, what is that in your avatar? A bat?

[stop the bleeding]

47. Yoda that is - using the force Yoda does, Mmm Hmmm we need all

of the help we can get. I post these on occasion

here are some others for fun






Give Mommy a Kiss....

[helderheid]

48. thank you!! :)

[stop the bleeding]

49. Oopps - I didn't mean for the Hurricane photo to get in there -

I hope I didn't destroy anyone's server with size of that picture - it is gone now.

[helderheid]

50. LOL - I wondered. :)

[Norquist Nemesis]

46. *ahem* JOHN BOLTON!!!!! n/t

[helderheid]

51. I'm missing your point - sorry!

:shrug: