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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:31 PM
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Jeb Bush doesn't speak for me
I just want to clear that up now that we're on the subject on who speaks for whom. I know many of you have a negative impression of Florida and some have even expressed that it should just disappear into the Atlantic Ocean, never to be heard from again.

After all, how good can a state be if it is run by the shrub's fatter brother?

But I am a native and Jeb Bush is not. He just happened to move down here and was able to buy influence with his daddy's power.

When all is said and done, Florida will become a blue state before Noelle is off probation.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:33 PM
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1. Well said, Raging
I won't blame you for Jeb if you won't blame me for Ahnold.

:)
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:36 PM
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5. I won't blame you for Ahnold
But I don't know if I can forgive you for American Idol, Fear Factor and all those other reality shows.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:52 PM
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16. I only watch PBS and CSPAN
Educational programming mostly. I've never watched one single episode of American Idol or Fear Factor! EW! Reality shows bite.

I even turn of the educational programming when it looks like they are going to re-write history... and it happens!

I love to people watch in Hollyweird, but the crap that comes out of the tube and movie theaters sucks wind!


*looks out window and flips off Hollywood sign*

There ya go!


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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:59 PM
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21. The Hollywood sign is cool
I really like Southern California. And if you can see the sign from your window, that is something to brag about.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:37 PM
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30. From office window
and from a few high spots in the neighborhood where we live. I am lucky. I have lived here all my life and have always had a view of that sign... even if it's off in the distance, you still know what it is.

We have a lot to be thankful for... and a lot to protect.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:33 PM
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2. Florida is a wonderful place
As you mention, it just needs a little debushing.

New Hampshire was the only state that turned blue last year, I am very proud. May you be next. :toast:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:34 PM
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3. It has been before
and it will be again.

Jeb's term is coming to an end.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:34 PM
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4. I can think of more people who don't speak for me than do.
sorry for you having to put up with jeb. I'm in WA and yrs ago had to put up with Dixie Lee Ray, female (sort of) conservative gov who did more to hurt the state and USA than many govs put together. And she was female (sort of) back when there were few female govs which didn't help those of us hoping to get more females in governerships.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:37 PM
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6. Thanks, Raging
As a born and bred Floridian, I've been subject to some embarrassment about many things that have happened since 2000 down there.

Everyone needs to be reminded that Florida's as Democratic as it is Republican. Moreso, if the votes are ever counted properly!

How's the weather down home?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:39 PM
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9. Weather is perfect right now
73 degrees with a slight breeze.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:44 PM
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12. Ah Paradise!
Here in Ontario (Soviet Canuckistan) it's been in the high 30s, verging into the 40s. Which is phenomenal here at this time of year, but it ain't 73 with a slight breeze by a long shot.
:patriot:
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:52 PM
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15. Well you have national healthcare
And I have Jeb. There's a trade-off for everything.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:53 PM
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17. LOL
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:38 PM
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7. Lets hope your last sentence is true
I want to visit Florida someday for spring training and it would certainly be better it it were a Blue State.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:42 PM
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11. It would have been blue
If it weren't for the 2000 fiasco. If it weren't for the 2002 computer machine debut that put reelected Jeb even though he was down in the polls. And it would have been blue in 2004 if it weren't for those same computer voting machines.

It is a blue state that has been gagged and tied with red bandannas.

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:01 PM
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22. true statements
I do feel your pain, sort of. We here in Iowa have Grassley and he most certainly doesn't speak for me. Just keep on working and bringing all of the voting "irregularities" (fraud) to peoples attention. I think more and more folks are coming around
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:39 PM
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8. Jeb Bush doesn't speak for me, either, but...
...it does look like he eats for me.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:40 PM
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10. Just as DUBYA does not
speak for all Texans like Molly Ivins, Bill Moyers, and The Dixie Chicks, I'm confident that more than half of all Floridians accepted the autopsy report on Terri Schiavo and disapproved of Jeb sticking his nose in their business.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:45 PM
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13. thanks,raging . . . as i said before, i think
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 07:49 PM by ellenfl
jeb's win in 2002 was practice for the voter fraud that put his brother in the wh. he is as dangerous to the health and well-being of florida as his brother is to the nation. truly looking forward to him being GONE. maybe if we can get some dems into tallahassee, we can give the vote back to so many of the dis-enfranchised and hold the state.

btw, i have heard that there are more registered dems in florida than there are repugs. however, as a real estate paralegal, i can tell you there are a lot of people spending their tax rebates here . . . the big tax rebates.

ellen fl
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:50 PM
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I totally agree
It was a trial run for the main event. I have no doubt about that. And I know there are more dems here, but then again, there is that dixiecrat theory.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:14 PM
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25. I talked to Janet Reno a couple of years ago.
She got up early on election day to be the first to cast her vote. None of the voting machines were working. Widespread machine failure in her section of Florida. She never did get to vote.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:50 PM
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14. Man, I sincerly hope you're right
but here on the east coast of Florida near the Cape, all I've been seeing are slack jawed idiots who watch the evening news on TV and think they're informed and that Stupid and his little brother are mostly doing an OK job. Then there are the jerks driving the big penis extender vehicles who are still sporting those Stupid/Corrupt2004 bumper stickers. I don't hold out much hope for this state, I think the sun fries everybody's brains a whole lot more here than it does back home in the desert.

Florida seems to want to stay a part of Dixie and people living in eternal summer sunshine don't want to have to think about anything uncomfortable.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:55 PM
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18. Agreed, and I'm on the damned I4 corridor (Tampa)
Plus, I've got Rhonda "Bigoted Gayhater" Storms to deal with on my county commission. None of these morons...whoops, morans speaks for me in any way.

I also agree about Florida becoming blue. It'll happen in time. I see the changes.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:55 PM
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19. being in texas, lol lol i will honor your statement
jeb bush doesnt speak for you. bah hahahah. cute
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:57 PM
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20. Don't worry, my governor doesn't speak for me, either.
:hi:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:01 PM
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23. Babs and George sure turned out a bunch of crap for offspring...
All of them have been involved in shady deals, and then there's that divorce scandal, the savings and loan scandal, the Harken Energy insider trading scandal, the drunken driving and coke snorting, and so much more.

Geez, the Bush Crime Family certainly doesn't have much to be proud of, does it?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:13 PM
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24. Hi Raging--
what are the odds of getting him out of gov. position this year?

Btw, I know he doesn't speak for you. I hold out a lot of hope for Florida. I was saddened that some here on DU seem to feel we should all boycott the entire state of Florida for what happened in 2000. There are some good dems and progressives there that will be hurt if we turn our backs on the entire state.

Gov. musclebutt certainly doesn't speak for me.

Plus that, I've been dying to take a trip to Disneyworld. LOL! Now if I can get over being mad at Disney for allowing * to speak for the christmas parade. Bleh.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:18 PM
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26. Unless the computer voting machines can somehow extend his term limits
He will be gone for sure. Why would you want to come to Disney World if you live in California where you have DisneyLand?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:34 PM
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29. Because they're so different--
we're season pass holders to Disneyland. Don't get me wrong--we love it. Dh has never been to Disneyworld and has been seduced by the profiles on the travel channel. LOL! I haven't been since I was a kid, and would love to visit again.

There's no comparing the two. Your's is bigger and can't be done in a day. Ours smaller, older, sadly rather neglected--but that's changing thankfully. They've added some attractions in the last couple of years and are trying to restore some of it's former glory. Ours is also in the midst of one of the most conservative areas on the west coast (Orange County)--so guess who works at the park? ;) Not all of course, but enough...retirees mostly. But there are enough others that are kind and enthusiastic to make up for the others.

You all must be relieved with the prospect of getting rid of evil jeb. He seems like a jerk. I read on a thread a while ago that even his wife (poor woman) has issues. Sounds like a very unhappy, dysfunctional group of people, the bushes.

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:21 PM
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27. Just remember, Massachussetts has a gopher governor also
But yet they continue to elect Kennedy and Kerry. Over in New York, another traditionally blue state, you have a gopher governor AND mayor.

Wierd, isn't it?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:32 PM
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28. I think anybody who lives under Pres GW Bush can understand that.
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 08:33 PM by IMModerate
Well said, Raging!

BTW, Synnical and I were talking about resurrecting the S Florida meetup a couple of days ago. We're getting near the anniversary of the first one. This would be a good theme. Let's think about doing it again.

--IMM
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 09:14 PM
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31. Let's do it
SteppingRazor and I were talking about it too on Tuesday night at the protest.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:17 AM
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32. Do you have a date in mind?
Almost any is good for me.

--IMM
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:16 AM
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33. I'm pretty much open to any weekend
Whatever is convenient for everybody else
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