looks like Boeing is sending their Aircraft assembly to china, 20% of the

[sam sarrha]

population in the state of Washington works for Boeing and for each Boeing job lost 8 to 10 other people lose their jobs.

the Reich Wing wants to turn the USA into a land of shanty towns like the hills in Rio, so mobs will kill each other for one dollar a day jobs.. they really were inspired by China's slave labor program..

[Vincardog]

1. Then they can marvel at the Chinese Miracle of becoming so modern so fast.

[Not_Giving_Up]

2. You know, war usually stimulates an economy

Planes and ships and tanks and guns have to be manufactured....The people get jobs. Of course, when you outsource production, the people just starve.

[FormerRepublican]

3. This would be a totally STUPID thing to do.

Boeing is a military contractor. So now we outsource the building of military aircraft to China, a communist country who has no reason to feel good about the United States?

That sounds like Bush, but I thought SOMEONE in the government and the military would be smarter than that.

[Jayhawk Lib]

4. You don't suppose

the $30-$35 dollar an hour wages plus another $20 dollar an hour benefit package plus the mandated taxes for FICA and unemployment insurance has anything to do with it?

[redwitch]

7. your point?

do you think the Boeing workers are overpaid?

[Jayhawk Lib]

8. Yes..If they want to compete in the world market.

Boeing has to compete and sell planes on the world market. If they cannot price their planes competitively they are out of business. To keep people employed they have to sell planes.

On the military side, with as few of manufacturers as there is, it kind of looks like gouging to me...

[redwitch]

9. do you really think they can compete with the Chinese?

This is what has happened EVERYWHERE you look in this country. We don't make much anymore and that's a fact. I think it should be a problem for Boeing or any other company to ship their jobs overseas to places that have unfair advantages like :no environmental standards, lousy working conditions for employees, lousy human rights records.

[Rainscents]

10. Airbus wage is higher than Boeing... get a clue!

[Jose Diablo]

14. We understand

what it is like to be fed lie after lie that builds-up what appears to be truth, but is in fact just opinion. I was born in Wichita so I know what thats like.

You are new here, so welcome. If you spend some time, read and try to understand, you will begin to understand what has happened.

The mantra of "competition" is not really how our human world works. In the jungle, yes it is survival of the fittest. But we humans construct our own 'reality' in which we care for each other, support each other. That is how we have escaped the so called law of the jungle. It is called 'altruism'. The religions are filled with the concept.

Now the religious right-wing, which has a major power center in Wichita, has made people forget about altuism, by promoting the concept of law of the jungle, or another word for it is 'competition'. If you doubt Wichita is is a right-wing power center, think Koch brothers. I know you have heard of them or you should have. You may know them for the organization they created, the John Birch Society. Ring a bell?

You really don't know all you think you do, so just sit down and STFU, for now. It will clear up for you as you digest the real truth, right here on this board.

Again, welcome.

[sam sarrha]

13. their profits are in the billions.. in 2000 it was 14 billion

[JohnyCanuck]

5. Globalization is wiping out the American middle class

The True State of the Union
More Deception from the Bush White House

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

<snip>

Roach is the first free trade economist to admit that the disruptive technology of the Internet has dashed the globalization hopes. It was supposed to work like this: The first world would lose market share in tradable manufactured goods and make up the job and economic loss with highly-educated knowledge workers. The "win-win" was supposed to be cheaper manufactured goods for the first world and more and better jobs for the third world.

It did not work out this way, Roach writes, because the Internet allowed job outsourcing to quickly migrate from call centers and data processing to the upper end of the value chain, displacing first world employees in "software programming, engineering, design, and the medical profession, as well as a broad array of professionals in the legal, accounting, actuarial, consulting, and financial services industries."

This is what I have been writing for years, while the economics profession adopted a position of total denial. The first world gainers from globalization are the corporate executives, who gain millions of dollars in bonuses by arbitraging labor and substituting cheaper foreign labor for first world labor. For the past decade free market economists have served as apologists for corporate interests that are dismantling the ladders of upward mobility in the US and creating what McMillion writes is the worst income inequality on record.

Globalization is wiping out the American middle class and terminating jobs for university graduates, who now serve as temps, waitresses and bartenders. But the whores among economists and the evil men and women in the Bush administration still sing globalization's praises.

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02012006.html

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. And to think five years ago they disassembled that spy plane of

ours. Now they can build them for us.

[upi402]

11. The Corporatocracy will ruin this country

The rich know no national loyalty, they have every option to leave and live comfortably after they trash this country.
They'll probably run to a socialist democracy!
DINO's are part of the Corporatocracy, by the way.

[reformedreformer]

12. In all fairness (yuck)

the corporate democrats in this state have some explaining to do also. They allowed the corporate headquarters to move out of state and have done nothing to either force or entice Boeing to stay. The are just as responsible as the rethugs.

[Squatch]

15. 1.2 million Washingtonians work at Boeing?

Okaaay :freak:

[sam sarrha]

17. the adult workforce, lots is contracted out.. i boeing employee loses a

job. 8 others lose their job

[Benfea]

16. What do you expect from conservatives?

Conservatives seem to think we can construct a viable national economy out of borrowing from our children without actually producing anything. How do you reason with a person like that?

[Jamison]

18. Boeing has a plant here in St. Louis too.

I wonder if that will be affected too?

I know a guy who works there and makes great money...about $35 an hour.

I'd hate to see his job sent to China where they'd pay 50 cents an hour for the equivalent work.