Hint: If you're afraid black voters will automatically vote for Obama

[ecstatic]

Cease immediately with the baseless bashing.

Right now, Obama has not made as many waves throughout the black community as he has in the mainstream media. I myself am still neutral. But if you keep bashing him with baseless talking points, the only conclusion to draw will be that he is being attacked due to his race and THAT's when you'll have to really be concerned about your precious candidate losing the black vote.

[journalist3072]

1. Well, I have to be honest and say that as an African-American myself

This HAS been a concern of mine. I am somewhat concerned that some people will vote for him just bcause he is African-American, without really examining where he stands on the issues. I worry some will get all caught up in the hype of potentially putting a Black man in the Oval Office.

I hope we remember that just because somewhat looks like us, doesn't mean they share our interests or values.

[Bucky]

14. Oh relax.

What could possibly go wrong?

[applegrove]

2. I find all this talk of "is america ready" really annoying. I'm not American.

I'm from Canada and we should talk. But really - it is a choice to bring up the race question.

[TheMadMonk]

5. Does anyone recall a story from at least a couple of decades back.

It was all about the first black person in the white house (IIRC they were VP and the prez died/was incapacitated). The final twist, shock horror, was that this blakc person was a woman.

Title and Author would be great. The anthology it was (re)published in would be brilliant, since my library is just a little disrupted from moving.

[applegrove]

9. Thankfully CNN is frameing the race question from the AA pov at this point.

The long walk from Selma. Much better. That is a story worth telling.

[bluewave]

3. Who else will they vote for?

A southern white male Christian (Edwards) or a WASP elite like Hillary?

BTW, I support Obama 100%.

[ourbluenation]

8. Whoever they want, like everyone else.

As the Rev Sharpton said on hardball the other day, all people vote based on their own interests and I agree. If it's in their best interests to vote for Obama, then they will I guess. If not, they won't.

[bluewave]

16. My point is that it won't be those two

Especially with a black man who attends a black church. I find people vote more for looks/personality than best interest. How else can we explain Bush?

I will say this: blacks have the best instincts/intellect when it comes to judging politicians. They are the catalysts who fly en masse away from the liars first. Condi would never survive.

[ourbluenation]

24. I can explain * like this...

They (the working class righties) thought they were voting for their best interests, when in reality they voted against them. We told them otherwise, they wouldn't listen. We are all paying the price. The last election tells me they might be catching on.

As for the African-American vote, I really couldn't say. I'm no expert, but yeah, I think you have a damn fine point there re: Condi.

[Kahuna]

19. Huh? That's a really insulting question. You post assumes..

that blacks will selected a candidate based on race or gender and that all blacks will vote alike. That is so insulting.

[bluewave]

26. Most people do. They vote for people most like themselves

and Obama is more like them than anyone. Identification within a group is powerful.

[Kahuna]

27. Bullshit. I'm a black woman who has been voting for white males...

for over thirty years. Stop thinking you're some kind of social scientist because you obviously are not... No offense though. I'm not mad at you. I'm just a little annoyed with your simplistic reasoning. Now, give us a :pals:

[TahitiNut]

4. I think he'd probably be a good vice president.

Unfortunately, it'd probably have to be with a Southerner at the top of the ticket ... so I'd go for Gore/Obama. I'd prefer seeing Feingold or Kucinich at the top of the ticket. I don't think 2008 is the time to go 'moderate' - not at all. (Nowadays, even Joe McCarthy would be considered a 'moderate.') It's time to go unapologetically liberal. (There's NOTHING 'radical' about solid liberalism.)

[Swamp Rat]

6. Gore/Conyers

That's a winning ticket, IMO. :)

[xultar]

15. Why not Conyers\Gore?

[Swamp Rat]

18. No argument there.

I'd LOVE it! :)

[TahitiNut]

28. No argument from me. I hold Conyers, Waters, Lee, Frank, Rangel, Nadler, Waxman, ...

... and the entire CPC/CBC in high esteem. Outside of the CPC and CBC, well ... :shrug:

[Bluebear]

7. I don't fear that at all. Black voters are pretty damn savvy.

You could run Condoleeza Rice and JC Watts as a ticket and I don't think they would get 20% of the African American vote.

[xultar]

13. But Obama is a democrat. Don't look at it through white progressive activist eyes.

look at it through black folk want a democrat black president eyes.

[Bluebear]

17. Fair enough and it's time a person of color is on ticket nt

[xultar]

20. No shit.

[Skidmore]

22. What Xultar said....

and I know plenty of white folk that like him too and will vote for him.

[BlooInBloo]

10. Good antecedent, poor consequent....

Better consequent: then you're a bigot.

[xultar]

11. and you know that how? You go with me to get my hair done? You go to my church?

How do you know.

Black folk like Obama. Ya'll can keep on dreamin that it isn't true all you want.

[LittleClarkie]

12. Stop being critical or we'll call you a racist.

Greaaaat.

What bashing exactly? Is it bashing? Or is it just criticism?

[mdmc]

21. Hillary Clinton has the black vote

bar none.

At least that is how it currently is in my neck of the woods.

[CatWoman]

23. well, this black woman is an Edwards girl

Hillary turns me off, and I'm extremely tepid about Obama.

[xultar]

25. I want him to run though and I want him on the ticket in a slot. So far he's the only black man

with a chance who is running. It is about fuckin time a black person got on the ticket.

IT. IS. TIME.

PS. If you need another cat let me know. I got one fer-ya.

[CatWoman]

29. oh, don't get me wrong -- I do want him on the ticket as well

I want as many on the ticket as possible.

the more the better, as more issues will get out there.

Look, hon, I lost Trin last summer and adopted a rescue from Ulysses. She was found around the time Katrina struck NOLA, and we named her Cat-trina for luck (as Katrina was the beginning of the end of Chimpolini :) ).

That damn cat is getting so fat, she looks like a beach ball with a head and a tail :)

Plus, I have four strays outside that I feed . The boy cat must think I'm his girlfriend, cause he keeps leaving "gifts" for me at the front door (half-eaten birds :puke: ).

Every morning that I leave for work, I have to be extra careful when I step outside :)

I'm kittied up for good!!! :)

As I'm TRYING to type, I have Male on the left chair arm, and Female on the right. Both keep rubbing against me and that makes typing damn near impossible.

When I get up to go to the bathroom, etc., Streak comes running, screaming at the top of her lungs, wanting me to play with her with her feather toy.

And Cat-trina runs to the food bowl, demanding that I add more in.

What a life!!! :)

[xultar]

32. I have 2 rescues that have been with me for a while. They are looking

for their forever homes though I know they know they are always welcomed here.

[mdmc]

31. everyone should keep in mind that I live in NY

so Hillary is kinda our "hometown" girl. I can't find a single women (read black women) that does not support Hillary around here. Every time I mention that I am involved in politics, ladies mention that they want Hillary to run for President.

Edwards kicked it old school in Harlem the other night.

[natrat]

30. the whole media thing is creepy-i would not vote for obama period