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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:38 PM
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Bush most admired male in America - warning: will make you sick
help me, I am going to :puke: my guts out - I just saw this Gallup poll: http://poll.gallup.com/content/?ci=20635

PRINCETON, NJ -- President George W. Bush is the clear choice as the most admired man in Gallup's annual poll on this topic, while New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton edges out talk-show host Oprah Winfrey and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as the most admired woman. This marks the fifth straight year that Bush has been most admired man, and the fourth straight year that Clinton has been most admired woman. Clinton has topped the list 10 times since 1993. Billy Graham finished among the top 10 most admired men for a record 49th time.

Gallup's Dec. 19-22 poll asked Americans to name, without prompting, the man and woman, living anywhere in the world, whom they admire most. Nineteen percent of Americans named Bush as the most admired man. Former president Bill Clinton, with 5%, and former president Jimmy Carter, Pope Benedict XVI, and Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates (each of whom garners 3%) round out the top five. The remainder of the top 10 includes the Rev. Billy Graham, former South African President Nelson Mandela, former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, the Dalai Lama, Arizona Sen. John McCain, and rock singer Bono. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Mormon Church President Gordon B. Hinckley, and former president George H.W. Bush also received mention from at least 1% of Americans.

:hurts: :mad:
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:42 PM
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What a motley crew! We are in very bad shape if that's all we got...
Then again, as Bush as says, history will be written years later. (the man is a friggin' genius!)
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:42 PM
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1. .
:rofl:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:44 PM
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2. I don't know anyone who doesn't utterly despise him
So how is he "most admired man"?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:47 PM
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6. Exactly!
Who did they 'survey'? Babs Bush and her bridge group? Members of the O'Reilly Fan Club?

I'm beginning to think that Gallup has been dipping into the Diebold machine warehouse ...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:47 PM
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8. Even bush voters I know won't talk about him much nowdays.
At least not in mixed company. And they used to practically crow about him.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:52 PM
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15. Because there are a LOT of admirable men in America
Which is the problem--the vote gets diluted.

Shrub won with nineteen percent of the vote, which is the same percentage he would have received in the 2004 election if we would have had the Fairness Doctrine and paper ballots. This means 81 percent of the people who voted did NOT pick ol' shit-for-brains. (This should cheer you up some.)
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 03:28 AM
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29. precisely
And the more intelligent the person, the greater the range of their interests and, thus, heroes. Anyone into daddy worship is going to instantly spring toward the Chimp.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:07 PM
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19. But clearly,
The people whom you know--think.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 03:29 AM
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30. yes, and those all would have chosen different people
The more, well, reality challenged people would have voted for the Bubble Boy alone.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:46 PM
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3. Could also be most hated
by the other 81%. That 19% are fundy dead-enders that think he was selected by God should surprise nobody. These people are the same people who are LOOKING FORWARD to Armageddon.


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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:47 PM
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7. Lol
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:46 PM
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4. I don't think Gallup is very accurate.
I really believe they cherrypick the demographic that they poll, so that it comes out favorable for the people asking for the poll. It's all business ya know.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:46 PM
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5. But his approval ratings are in the crapper.
Does not make sense at all.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:49 PM
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9. They certainly did not call the right people. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:50 PM
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10. Note to self: use this to illustrate "polls are crap" theory
Anyone still believing in polls - think again...
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:50 PM
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11. READ THE FINE PRINT-Amongst Republicans
Bush owes his standing this year to the fact that he is easily the consensus choice among Republicans -- 44% of Republicans mention him. Bush is also the top choice among independents, but trails Clinton among Democrats.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:50 PM
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12. READ THE FINE PRINT-Amongst Republicans
Bush owes his standing this year to the fact that he is easily the consensus choice among Republicans -- 44% of Republicans mention him. Bush is also the top choice among independents, but trails Clinton among Democrats.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:51 PM
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13. Makes Perfect Sense To Me Actually.
I think some of the people who have replied here and the other thread on this last week need to rationalize the article a bit better.

First off, it is only 19% of those polled. Some are acting like it was over 50%.

Secondly, because it was only 19%, it would make perfect sense that every die hard fundy righty that was polled would off the top of their heads pick Bush. We know that there is a good 20% that would follow him off a cliff if prompted and consider him a savior, so for these it is completely expected that he would be there choice.

There is nothing shocking about these results to me.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:00 PM
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16. Thank you
I've calmed down now - and feel better after reading your post.
I am an immigrant from South Africa - been here now for 9 years. I read this article in a South African online newspaper : http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Wereld/0,,3-71_1857048,00.html I doubt if anyone will understand the language. It says the shrub has been number 1 for 5 years in a row - I do not want the South Africans to think be admire such an idiot. :mad: :eyes: :grr:
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 09:51 PM
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14. READ THE FINE PRINT-Amongst Republicans
Bush owes his standing this year to the fact that he is easily the consensus choice among Republicans -- 44% of Republicans mention him. Bush is also the top choice among independents, but trails Clinton among Democrats.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:05 PM
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17. That's just 1984, Big Brother is
Watching Bullshite..I don't believe it for an Orwell second.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:07 PM
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18. Doesn't surprise me. . .
that less than a fifth of the nation admires GW, with the rest scattered like buckshot over the political and social landscape. In polls like this, that aren't predicated on a specific choice between competing options, people go with what they know. It's why you get crazy polls that pick John Kennedy as the greatest president, or polls about actors or other media that fail to mention anyone from more than 20 years back.

Me? I refuse to partake of such nonsense. To quote Evan S. Connel:


I’ve just now been asked to name a person I admire.
The question’s difficult and deserves some thought.
If an immediate answer were required I suppose I’d say
I admire nobody, although I’ve met one or two I respect.
Here’s the thing: admiration connotes subservience,
respect implies an equal and complementary distance.


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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:26 PM
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20. A missing option would have won
"My Dad"

As you said, "people go with what they know."
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:27 PM
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21. top of mind awareness
That's what these things measure, IMO. It's "who comes to your mind" first. Who has had the most media time/impressions over the past year.


Cher
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:27 PM
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22. That's odd. A recent MSNBC online poll of 185,000+ people
, 86% said that Bush should be impeached. What gives?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:46 PM
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27. Well, with the 19% who admire him most, it means. . .
5% would most admire to see the man impeached.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:33 PM
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23. Wow -Even some who think Iraq was involved in 9/11 didn't vote for him
That number is in the 20's isn't it?
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:35 PM
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24. self-delete
Edited on Sun Jan-01-06 10:45 PM by Balbus
put in wrong place
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:37 PM
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25. 19%
that's pretty pitiful. NOT a landslide.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:44 PM
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26. Lying to get your way is such an admirable trait.
We can all assume he learned this awesome skill at an early age.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:49 PM
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28. (deleted)
Edited on Sun Jan-01-06 10:52 PM by TahitiNut
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 03:37 AM
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31. James Jones republicans following their dickwad.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 03:43 AM
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32. What's more interesting to me is:
Where does Gallup get their "scientific sample" from? Who are these nut jobs anyways?

Bush most admired.

Hillary is ok I guess but "most admired"?

Condoleezza? Are they kidding me...

And who gives a damn about Opray Winfrey? What is this the soap-opera digest version of a poll?

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